Satsang at Mooji's home (with subtitles)
Brixton May 25, 2008
Part 1 None of it is real
What you're searching for is that which I think you talked about,
which is that you want to be in a place of real peace,
a place of total stability, beyond even the need for discipline
because you admitted that there must be something beyond discipline.
If discipline is to get to something, it must be beyond the discipline.
And that which you are talking about,
which you refer to as needing discipline to get to,
that must be effortless in itself, you said it yourself.
You say, 'What Is', meaning that it's unsupported.
It's not being moved by something else, it's by itself.
And I'm trying to find out if you are separate from That, even now.
Even with all that's going on in the mind,
confusion and all these ideas. Are you That or not?
And do you have a choice to be That, or not to be That?
These are really the questions that I wanted to put.
And I feel that it should be a lovely discovery for you!
Because I don't want you to put extra energy
for something that you already have.
My feeling is that it's worth pursuing.
We can look at what comes up and gets in the way, apparently.
We can look at all these things,
but I have a feeling that this is a real opportunity for looking.
It is far more, I was going to say 'easier',
but this is even beyond easy.
What you are searching for is beyond easy.
What makes it seem like it's difficult or easy
is this continuing and persistent idea that
there is a 'you' who must do something to get That.
This feeling is so deeply rooted inside our being,
but this feeling was not original.
This feeling that you have to do something
to become what you really are, is not original to you.
It came later. We picked it up. Because even before this feeling came,
you were in a beautiful unicity, you were not even aware of yourself.
But as soon as you became aware of yourself
and they start to tell you, 'You got to do this' and 'You are a boy',
you start to pick up all these things,
you start to identify with this body.
And as soon as the consciousness came,
somehow it pulled the attention outward.
This is the power of the consciousness.
As soon as it arises, it seems to engage the attention to go out,
and so we started to trade in the world of the outer.
And that which watches this world of the outer,
is completely unconcerned about it.
It doesn't even call it the word 'outer',
because it's even the mind that's calling it 'outer' and 'inner'.
In fact, there is no such thing.
Can I say something ruthless about it?
Because none of it is real!
I just want to say it, I don't want to ask anybody to believe me.
I just have to get it out of my system today. I'm on fire.
None of it is real, this entire mind play.
Once you wake up and you touched 'I', everything is unreal.
Does it mean it's nasty, terrible, let's throw it away? No, no, no!
It's simply that it's an illusion, it's not stable.
You didn't do it.
You are not the one who is responsible for it.
No single human being throughout the entire history of human existence
has done anything at all.
Human beings are the effects of consciousness, not the cause.
I wonder if you follow me what I'm saying,
if you really understood this thing.
[Questioner] Are you saying we are not creators?
[Mooji] OK. This is very good. We are sub-creators.
But the very creating that you think you are doing ...
You are like a puppet making another puppet.
You are like a puppet that is hammering a nail,
but something is moving this puppet. It's like that.
The Supreme Power created also this instrument
in order to play at appearing to work.
It's creating through each created unit,
it seems to be continually creating.
[Q.] Would it be possible for me then,
with the idea to be a puppet,
to have this Supreme Consciousness flowing through me constantly?
[Mooji] It is doing it. There is is no other way you can be.
[M.] You don't have an option even to think ...
[Q.] Do you think even when I'm in doubt,
when I'm torn about things, do you think it's still ...?
Sometimes everything just flows and you know you're at the top
and everything is perfect and other times it's not.
Do you know what I mean?
[M.] I like this one. Can I say something? [Q.] Please!
[M.] If you aren't the doer of your actions, let's assume.
I'm not teaching you this. We're just playing a bit.
If you aren't the doer of your actions, something is making you do that.
As for what you are, we will tackle that in a minute.
Something is playing through this body
and it plays sometimes like this and sometimes like that.
Sometimes it manifests beautifully, everything is wonderful.
It's like you're walking through the Red Sea. Everything's like this.
You feel, 'Wow! I'd like to stay like this.'
[Q.] That's it! That's where I wish to stay!
[Q.] Is it possible to be like that constantly?
[Q.] I'm asking because I would love that.
[Q.] I'm working on it, but sometimes that's all I get.
[Mooji] You, who is working on it, will have to get out of the way.
[Q.] How do I get out of the way? [M.] I want to tell you that.
[Mooji] I'm very excited to tell you how. [laughter]
This 'you', that you consider yourself to be,
is only the 'you' that is being dreamed in the real you.
I don't want to go too fast. Do you understand?
I'm happy to repeat something, especially like this.
You, who feels that you would like to do something to stabilise it,
because sometimes you just hit the button, and 'Whoa!'
[Q.] It can't get any better.
[M.] And something just wants to perpetuate this condition.
It's beautiful to think of something that way.
Everything is like this. We like this state.
It's a pleasant state, and if only this state could go on,
we wouldn't even care about enlightenment.
This is helpful, isn't it?
But this is nothing. I just want to say it.
[Q.] That's what I mean, I wouldn't crash otherwise.
[M.] Even if you didn't crash, it's still not it. I want to tell you why.
Everything that you experience like these things,.
they are states, they come and go.
It is you who knows of the enjoyment of them,
or the lack of enjoyment of them.
Something witnesses it, 'I like this.'
Something say, 'I like this'. 'Oh, no, I don't like this.'
And this 'I' that we seem to be speaking from,
'I really like this! Yesterday was "Phew!" Ten out of ten!
Today it's slowing down.'
Something that watches this would like to express some preferences,
'I prefer yesterday to today.'
This thing, which we identify with, this sense of 'I',
is not your true 'I', is not your true state.
[Q.] How do I get to it? [Mooji] You are already there.
[Mooji] If you understand that your very 'I',
the feeling that you say, 'I like and I don't like,'
this, 'I like and I don't like', no one questions it.
You take yourself to be this 'I'.
This 'I' is an aspect of yourself.
It is based though, upon a lot of limitations,
conditioning, habit, tradition, education.
It's all manifesting in that One.
It's a kind of composite identity.
It is the image you have of yourself.
It's your self-image, the idea you have of yourself.
And all have it. All sentient beings have a sense of who we are.
Our culture, our conditioning
create the sense of who you think you are, your identity.
But your identity isn't what you are.
[Q.] Can I throw that away or should I make up an identity?
[Mooji] No, no. You just need to listen a little bit.
So this identity that is being watched ... My question is,
By what is it being watched? I don't want the answer quickly.
Use the question. Obviously, something's aware of the identity.
You don't usually look at your identity,
because you assume it to be already a fact.