- Okay, so we're here,
we're back with another video,
because another car was unveiled again.
This time we waited a little bit,
because we wanted see what information was leaked about it,
because they like to show the car,
but not the details.
So, we're taking a look at the brand new
2023 Honda Civic Type R
and it's a bit different than 10th gens.
- It is, it is.
And, I think Dakota and I
have different opinions on some things.
So, this will be interesting.
- Yeah, yeah.
We're taking a look at Honda's video here
of them releasing it.
They got the DRLs.
- Looks good, that's a standard now.
You gotta have those.
- Yeah, and this was really interesting,
because I didn't like the new Civic SI.
I'm not a fan of it.
I think--
- [Sam] I'm not either.
When I saw it at SEMA, it was like--
- Yeah, it looks like a regular Civic.
- I felt like the WX and the Civic SI,
both of 'em were like, oh, that's, that's it?
- However, I like the new Type R.
- Oh, hold on, go to that exhaust.
- They stuck with the center exit triple...
- Yeah, that's a look.
- Tip exhaust.
- You like that?
- It's unique. I like it. I think it's cool.
- I like it too.
I need to work with a 10th gen,
'cause the 10th gen is really crazy looking.
- Yeah, that's the thing,
but I kind of like that they dialed it back
and made this one more subtle,
because the 10th gen,
like when you get that car,
I like the 10th gen a lot, the type R,
but it's like done from the factory.
It looks good the way it is,
like maybe throw some wheels on it,
but it's so much going on that it's just done.
This one is more of a blank slate.
Oh, I like that they show the heritage.
- Yeah, I like how they...
A lot of manufacturers really play into that heritage,
'cause that's what people our age care about,
is that heritage.
- Exactly.
- Is that it?
- Yep. No.
- No, it's not it.
- Why don't they take this wrap?
Oh, in a second here.
- It is much more subtle than the 10th gen,
like Dakota was saying.
- I really like the 10th gen,
'cause it's like a boy racer.
Like it's done from the factory.
It looks really cool, but you are 100% right,
like this is a little more of a blank canvas.
I think that body kits and we'll...
Everything you can do to it from the exterior
is gonna be a lot different than the 10th gen,
'cause 10th gen's lines are just so there,
it's not much you can do with it.
- And, what's interesting too is,
from the 10th gen to this one,
is they went from 20 inch wheels on the 10th gen
to 19 inch wheels on this.
So, you keep seeing auto manufacturers go up.
It's interesting to see like, oh, shit,
we went too far and start dialing it back.
- I think it's a good thing to see that though,
because, from our experience,
like in the gallery,
a lot of people who like Supras,
I would've thought are running twenties,
they're running nineteens,
and that's for a lot of performance reasons.
You can fit a better tire on a 19 than you can a 20,
also for ride comfort,
and usually nineteens are also more lightweight.
- Right, right.
And, the shape of the car
is still growing on me a little bit.
Like, specifically, the front end,
it's kind of like a snub nose type deal,
and that is a little off.
- [Sam] Where it kind of cuts off.
- Yeah, it just like rounds off,
which is a little strange,
but, overall, I like to look of it
and then, already, in my head,
I'm kind of imagining like putting an aftermarket hood,
or a lip, or lowering it, getting better wheels.
- [Sam] Getting cooler.
- And, how much that's gonna transform the look of this.
And, then I think I'll absolutely love it.
I really like it.
But, I think I'll love it
once you start seeing it modified.
I think they did a really good job.
It's like a more mature version of the 10th gen.
- Yeah, and I'll say the...
From this video, the wheel tire fitment to the fenders
is really actually pretty good from the factory.
- Yeah, normally they're like, like this much.
It's like terrible, God awful.
- It's not monster truck.
I do think the rear wing looks a little outta place.
The 10th gens looked fine,
but there's just so much happening back there.
This one seems a little bit tacked on.
- It just seems aftermarket.
It looks aftermarket from the factory,
but I don't mind that.
I think it's...
I think that's what it needed.
If it didn't have that,
it would look too much like the Civic SI problem
where it looks just kinda like a base model.
That lets you know, instantly.
You're like damn.
- Something else.
- Okay, yeah, this is something different.
It's got the red badges Type R stuff going on.
- Well, I like how it's not paint,
the wing isn't paint matched.
- Yeah, stands out.
- Yeah, I think that really lends to that--
- I wonder if they'll have a carbon option.
- That...
You think that is carbon?
- I don't know.
If it is, it's painted black.
It could be carbon, which, also, obviously,
they haven't released price point yet,
but I'm gonna guess it's around the similar to the 10th gen.
So, around 40K is what I would think
that this is gonna come out at.
It's still a two liter four cylinder turbocharged engine.
So, the 10 gen made 306 horsepower.
This one hasn't been officially announced,
but there was a JDM brochure that was leaked apparently,
that said 326 horsepower on the new one.
And, then in the US, generally,
it was like 10 horsepower less.
So, we're looking at like 316 horsepower.
- What happens to those 10 ponies across the ocean?
Do they just like, swim away?
- They shove in more mufflers or something?
I don't know.
More Cadillac converters?
Detune it?
I don't know.
- Give us the horsepower, Honda.
- Yeah, just give...
- Give it to us.
- Yeah, we should get more horsepower.
- More.
- Or, just make 'em the same.
I don't know.
- The interior's really cool though.
- [Dakota] I love the interior.
- I love the little...
I'm pointing at the screen that you guys
can't see me pointing at right now.
But, the little kind of like carbon looking garnishes
are really cool.
- I like that it's just more subtle.
Again, the shift knob too looks aftermarket right away
which isn't a bad thing.
I like that.
It talks to the tuner in all of us.
- But, the seats are so cool.
- The red seats, the red seat belts, the red carpeting.
Oh, that digital dash looks sick too.
- [Sam] That is very cool.
- So, this will be paired with a six speed manual,
no automatic version.
It's keeping true to that sports car,
that feel, that driver's car,
so I appreciate Honda for that.
- I just like how Honda's kind of sticking
to the Type R roots here.
And, it's not just this crazy car,
but you know it's gonna have a bunch of untapped potential.
- Yeah, it's...
The aftermarket support's gonna be insane.
And, the 10th gen receives such good feedback
like from a ton of people that I talk to.
The 10th gen Civic Type R is one of their favorite cars
that they've ever driven, me included.
Like, I got to drive at May Performance,
10th gen Type R,
and that had some mods onto it.
And, dude, they are so good.
They handle so good.
They feel like they're on rails.
It's a true like driver's car and they kill it.
I know it's front wheel drive.
You don't gotta be mad about it.
They did it right with this car.
There's good front wheel drive cars.
There's bad front wheel drive cars.
This is a good one, a great one,
one of the best front wheel drive cars.
- I don't know why front wheel drive gets so much hate
in like the car enthusiast community
as not being a driver's cars.
They 100% are.
- [Dakota] It's a different feel.
- [Sam] Yeah, front wheel drive is fun,
rear wheel drive is fun,
all wheel drive is fun.
- I'm super excited for it.
I think there's a ton of potential with this car.
I can't wait for the aftermarket support
to start rolling out.
I can't wait to see some people
throw some work Kawamis on these or TE 37s,
or anything like that is gonna look phenomenal,
maybe even ANOVIA Conos,
you know what I'm saying?
- Hey.
- That would look pretty killer.
- Maybe even some Trebles.
- Dude, throw some three spokes on there.
That'd be pretty tight.
But, overall, I really like it.
- Let's see what the people say.
- Okay, okay.
- Let's react to the reaction.
- People are saying it's cool
to have the GR Corolla and the Type R here in the stage.
- There's good competition, yeah.
- Not just getting released over in Japan.
- Well, okay, we got the GR Corolla,
we got the Type R, we got,
I'll throw the Supra in there, the Z,
then we have the 86 family.
Like, there's a lot happening
in this kind of like enthusiast scene for JDM cars.
- But, I think Honda killed it with this one.
What do you guys think?
Make sure to comment down below.
Sam, I want you to rate it out of 10,
from what you know so far.
- 8.5.
- Damn, I was gonna give it nine.
So, we're pretty close there.
We're pretty close.
- So, the reason I'm holding back a little bit
is 'cause I like how extreme the 10th gen was.
I don't dislike this,
but I don't know what the aftermarket's gonna bring.
And, for me, that's a big part of it.
Like, when the GR86 was unveiled
and HKS already had like their kit out,
I was like, yep.
This thing is it.
Like, there's cool kits for it already.
I'm curious what's gonna come out for this.
- I'm curious to see how it does too,
because it has some huge fucking competition this year,
between the new Z, between the GR Corolla.
There's so much out this year that it's like
can you make the decision to look past those
and get into a Civic Type R?
- Well, and the best thing is competition
is good for the consumer.
- It is.
- That's us.
- For sure, absolutely.
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'cause I wanna read every single one
and get your guys' thoughts on it too.
Well, thanks for watching.
- See you guys later.
Bye.
- Waving peace sign.