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BRIAN: ALL EYES ON CAPITOL HILL
WHERE MORE HEARINGS ARE EXPECTED
AS PART OF DEMOCRATS PUSH FOR
IMPEACHMENT.
STEVE: REPUBLICANS ARE TURNING
THE TABLES.
THEY WANT ADAM SCHIFF TO TESTIFY
HIMSELF AS THEY CONSIDER MOVING
A KEY FIGURE ON THEIR END TO THE
HOUSE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE.
THE PANEL SET TO CONDUCT THE
INITIAL PUBLIC HEARING.
SPEAKING OF THE KEY FIGURE, WE
HAVE HIM HERE.
AINSLEY: CONGRESSMAN JIM JORDAN
ESSENTIALLY LED GOP EFFORTS IN
THE CLOSED-DOOR IMPEACHMENT
PROCEEDINGS HUSBAND FAR.
HE JOINS US NOW.
THERE ARE THOUGHTS YOU MIGHT BE
MOVED TEMPORARILY TO THE
INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE SO YOU
CAN QUESTION ADAM SCHIFF
POTENTIALLY AND --
>> I DON'T KNOW ABOUT SCHIFF.
WE'LL SEE.
THAT IS A CALL FOR LEADER
McCARTHY.
AINSLEY: WHY WOULD HE DO THAT?
BECAUSE YOU'RE A BULLDOG?
>> THAT IS THE KEVIN, LEADER
McCARTHY'S CALL.
IF KEVIN AND RANKING MEMBER
NUNEZ WANTS THAT TO HAPPEN, I
WANT TO HELP OUR TEAM.
I WANT OUR COUNTRY TO SEE THE
TRUTH HERE THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP
DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WRONG.
WHAT THE DEMOCRATS ARE DOING, IT
IS PARTISAN, UNFAIR.
FRANKLY RIDICULOUS THE
PARTICULARLY THE WAY WITH SECRET
MEET NATIONAL THE BUNKER OF THE
BASEMENT OF THE CAPITOL.
BRIAN: DEM --
STEVE: DEMOCRATS RELEASED
PARTIAL TRANSCRIPT TRYING TO
ESTABLISH THE PRESIDENT IS A BAD
GUY.
THIS ALL GOT STARTED UKRAINIAN
THING WITH THE WHISTLEBLOWER WHO
TOLD A STORY THAT WAS LEAKED
TURNED OUT NOT TO BE TRUE.
NOW I KNOW YOU'RE SIDE SAYS WE
SHOULD HEAR FROM THE
WHISTLEBLOWER ABOUT THE
CONSPIRACY?
>> HECK YEAH.
ONE WAY YOU DETERMINE SOMEONE'S
CREDIBILITY, WHAT THEIR
MOTIVATION IS, WHAT BIASES THEY
MAY HAVE, THEY NEED TO BE UNDER
OATH, ANSWERING YOUR QUESTIONS
AND FRANKLY THE POSITION WE HAVE
IS THE SAME POSITION ADAM SCHIFF
HAD SIX WEEKS AGO.
REMEMBER WHEN THIS FIRST
HAPPENED ADAM SCHIFF SAID WE
NEED TO HEAR FROM THE
WHISTLEBLOWER.
THEN, SIX WEEKS LATER, NO, NO,
WE DON'T.
WHAT HAPPENED IN THE SIX-WEEK
TIME FRAME.
NAMELY WE HEARD ADAM SCHIFF'S
STAFF MET WITH THE
WHISTLEBLOWER.
WHEN THAT CAME OUT, SUDDENLY
CHANGED THEIR STORY.
THE IDEA WE IMPEACH THE
PRESIDENT 12 MONTHS BEFORE NEXT
ELECTION BASED ON A WHISTLE
BOYAR WITH BIAS AGAINST THE
PRESIDENT, WHO WORKED FOR
JOE BIDEN IS RIDICULOUS AND WE
DON'T QUESTION IMUNDER OATH AND
DETERMINE WHAT KIND OF BUYS THEY
MAY HAVE?
STEVE: APPARENTLY READY TO
ANSWER WRITTEN QUESTIONS.
>> THAT IS NOT GOING TO FLY.
STEVE: WHY?
>> HE NEEDS TO COME IN.
WHAT I SAID, YOU WANT TO LOOK
THE INDIVIDUAL IN THE EYE, ASK
HIM QUESTIONS SEE HOW THEY
RESPOND IN THE MOMENT, ANSWERING
QUESTIONS.
NOT JUST MEMBERS OF CONGRESS
HAVE, BUT FRANKLY 63 MILLION
AMERICANS, 100 MILLION AMERICANS
ARE TRYING TO OVERTURN THE
ELECTION WHO WE VOTED FOR.
BRIAN: THE TRANSCRIPTS, MIKE
McKINLEY, FORMER TOP AID TO
SECRETARY OF STATE MIKE POMPEO
AND FORMER AMBASSADOR TO THE
UKRAINE, WERE CONCERNED ABOUT
OPERATION LED BY RUDY GIULIANI,
POLITICAL PURPOSES TO AFFECT
UKRAINIAN AMERICAN RELATIONS.
THEY WERE CONCERNED.
WHAT IS YOUR TAKE?
>> THEY'RE CONCERNED.
BUT REMEMBER THE PRESIDENT OF
THE UNITED STATES IS THE GUY WHO
IS IN CHARGE.
HE CAN HAVE WHOMEVER HE WANTS
TRYING TO MOVE POLICY FORWARD IN
THE BEST INTERESTS OF THE
COUNTRY.
STEVE: BEEN WORKING LIKE THAT A
VERY LONG TIME.
>> OFTEN TIMES PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF
THE DIPLOMATIC CORE WILL DO
DIPLOMATIC MISSIONS FOR THE
COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF.
THAT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME.
THEY DIDN'T PARTICULARLY LIKE
THAT.
THAT IS THE PRESIDENT'S CALL.
THERE IS FUNDAMENTAL CONCERN
FROM SOME OF THE FOLKS IN THE
DIPLOMATIC AREA SOMEHOW
UNELECTED PEOPLE TELL THE
ELECTED PERSON WHAT TO DO.
THAT IS NOT HOW IT WORKS IN OUR
GREAT QUESTION.
THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED
STATES IS ONE WE THE PEOPLE WHO
ELECTED.
HE IS ONE WHO DETERMINESES
POLICY.
HE CAN DECIDE WHO IS THE
AMBASSADORS AND DOT DIPLOMATIC
MISSIONS THAT NEED TO BE DONE.
AINSLEY: HOW DOES THIS PLAY OUT?
YOU MIGHT QUESTION ADAM SCHIFF
AND QUESTION THE WHISTLE-BLOWER
BUT IT IS UP TO THE DEMOCRATS
BECAUSE ADAM SCHIFF IS IN
CHARGE.
REALISTICALLY THAT WILL NOT
HAPPEN.
HOW WILL THIS ALL PLAY OUT?
>> THEY PASSED A RESOLUTION.
I SAID IT IS RIBBON ON A SHAM
PROCESS.
IT IS STILL A SHAM PROCESS.
ADAM SCHIFF IS STILL IN CONTROL.
WE HAVE TO PROVIDE A WITNESS
LIST.
ADAM SCHIFF DECIDES IF THEY COME
OR NOT.
HE IS IN CHARGE.
I DON'T THINK HE WILL TESTIFY.
I THINK HE SHOULD.
HE STILL DETERMINES WHO
WITNESSES ARE.
HOW THIS ALL OPERATES.
BRIAN: LET ME ASK YOU SOMETHING.
IN THE BIG PICTURE YOU CAN SIT
THERE AND SAY THE PROCESS A
PROBLEM.
YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO GO WITH.
YOU COULD SAY PEOPLE ARE
EMBEDDED IN THE STATE.
YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO GO WITH
THERE.
YOU COULD SAY, WHY WAS THE
PRESIDENT LOOKING TO UKRAINE.
WAS THERE A REASON?
WHAT WAS HUNTER BIDEN DOING?
COULDN'T FIND OUT FOR SURE.
SO HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT
GETTING ON THE OFFENSE AND
PROVING THERE WAS A REASON FOR
THE PRESIDENT TO BE CONCERNED
INSTEAD OF LOOKING AT THIS
SAYING THIS IS NOT IMPEACHABLE?
>> THERE IS CERTAINLY A REASON.
UKRAINE HAS A LONG HISTORY OF
ALL KINDS OF CORRUPTION.
ONE OF THE MOST CORRUPT NATIONS
ON PLANET.
BRIAN: SENATOR SCHUMER TOLD ME
THEY HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH 2016
ELECTION.
>> THEIR AMBASSADOR TO THE
UNITED STATES WRITES AN OP-ED ON
AUGUST 4, 2016 CRITICIZING THE
PRESIDENT.
THEIR INTERIOR MINISTER DOES
SOCIAL MEDIA POST CALLING
PRESIDENT ALL TERRIBLE THINGS.
HE STILL IN THE GOVERNMENT.
THERE WAS CLEAR CONCERN IN 2016
THE PRESIDENT RUNNING FOR
OFFICE, JUSTIFIED CONCERN THE
PRESIDENT HAD HOW UKRAINE IS
OPERATING.
PRESIDENT IS NOT A BIG FAN OF
FOREIGN AIDE.
HE HAS GIVEN MILLIONS OF DOLLARS
TO THIS COUNTRY.
HE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW ZELENSKY
IS THE REAL DEAL.
TURNS OUT HE IS.
PRESIDENT WAS JUSTIFIED BEING
CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.
STEVE: ONE YEAR FROM NOW IS THE
ELECTION.
WHAT WILL DEMOCRATS BE ABLE TO
RUN ON?
>> THE PRESIDENT WILL HAVE A
STRONG RECORD TO RUN ON, THAT IS
FOR SURE.
CUTTING TAXES.
LOWEST UNEMPLOYMENT IN 50 YEARS.
>> WHAT WILL THE DEMOCRATS RUN
ON?
>> WHO KNOWS.
THAT IS WHY THEY ARE GOING AFTER
THE PRESIDENT.
AS MR. GREEN SAID, THEY WILL TRY
TO IMPEACH HIM BECAUSE HE THINK
HE WILL BE REELECTED.
I DO TOO.
BRIAN: HELPING PEOPLE IN MIDDLE
AMERICA, SOUTHERN AMERICA, PASS
THE USMCA.
>> HECK YEAH.
EVERY REPUBLICAN WOULD VOTE FOR
IT AND MOST DEMOCRATS.
BRIAN: YOU DEMAND IT.
>> HECK YEAH.
BRIAN: YOU'RE JIM JORDAN.
>> I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT,