- Did you ever cheat on me?
- I knew this question was gonna come up.
I mean, this is the obvious question that's come up.
I knew it was gonna come up.
Yes I did.
(classical music)
- [Interviewer] Hi.
- [Both] Hi.
- I'm AG.
- And I'm Skyler.
- [Interviewer] How do you know each other?
- We are ex-husbands.
- [Interviewer] Is it weird telling people
that you are divorced?
- No, I don't think so.
Not for me.
- It's relieving.
It took forever to do.
- Separation was almost four years ago.
And then the actual legal divorce happened
at the beginning of this year.
- [Interviewer] Who wants to begin?
- You poured, so I'll.
- Okay.
- What did I do in the bedroom that you never liked?
- I don't think you bottomed enough.
- It's 'cause I'm terrified of my butt.
- I don't think that's true at all. (laughs)
- What did I do in the bedroom that you never liked?
- You had a really intense emphasis on anal penetration.
- (laughs) What do you mean?
- You needed to have butt sex all the time.
- I mean, you're not wrong.
Sadly I can't say a lot's changed there.
- Describe the first sex you had after we broke up.
- There's a dude two blocks from us in Belltown
that I'd been wanting to fuck for so long.
- [Interviewer] So you had it prearranged
when he was gonna move out.
- No, I had an intense emotional experience
of AG leaving the house and I cried my eyes out
and then I went and used one of my therapist-approved
coping mechanisms, which is fucking a stranger.
- 'Kay.
- Works for me.
Describe the first sex you had after the breakup.
- I went on a lot of really shitty first dates.
Grindr first dates.
So it took me almost a month to get laid after I left.
I don't know.
I don't know how straight people feel about that.
- [Interviewer] That's pretty sad.
- Don't be an asshole!
(AG and background group laughing)
- Who loved whom more?
We can drink to that one. (laughs)
- [Interviewer] You guys don't wanna answer?
- Not really.
That one makes me feel weird.
I'm gonna get out of it by drinking this booze.
(glass clanking)
- Where's the weirdest place we had sex?
- The graveyard in Portland.
- [Interviewer] Like, was it on a tombstone?
- It was up
Against a tree. - No, against a tree.
There were tombstones all around though.
Lots of them.
- Didn't I bottom?
- You did.
- Ha!
- Sure did.
When did you know it was over?
- It crystallized for me that we needed
to at least try out a separation
and really look at ending things.
- We were both kind of doing the same wrong to each other.
We demanded a lot of each other
and didn't wanna give the energy to reciprocate
what we were demanding.
- Yeah.
Do you ever cheat on me?
- I knew this question was gonna come up.
I mean this is the obvious question that's come up.
I knew it was gonna come up.
Yes I did.
I know.
- I'm so happy.
(both laughing)
Hot fuckin' dog.
- [Interviewer] You didn't know?
- No! - No, I never told him.
- And it makes me feel so much better.
This is like Christmas, this is like Christmas.
I'm so happy.
- I suppose I probably could've been pretty open about it,
but it was actually more exciting to not be open about it.
- I also had sex the night that you found me
under that bush.
- I knew it.
That's why you didn't come home that night.
- I did actually fall asleep underneath the bush though.
- [Interviewer] Wait, Skyler.
You had sex under the bush?
- No.
Went to that dude's house, had sex, got more drunk with him,
fell asleep underneath the bush on the way home.
- Yeah. - Yeah.
- That's very unbrand for you.
- So much more. - Well, it was then.
At the time.
- Do you regret your time with me
and would you do it all over again?
- No, I don't regret it.
Yes, I would absolutely do it in a heartbeat.
I grew in ways that I could not have done without you.
- [Interviewer] Do you feel the same way?
- I do, absolutely.
I don't regret any of our time together.
I don't regret being married at all.
Neither one of us would've gotten to the point
where we're at today if we hadn't done that.
- Did you marry to prove a point?
- In a way, yeah.
It was one of many reasons.
- What point?
- That I'm worth marrying.
- You're worth marrying.
It was really obvious to me by the end of it
that the reason we were doing it was not for us.
- [Interviewer] Who was it for?
- Family.
Society.
- We got married right when it was,
Oh my God, gay marriage is legal in Washington.
- Yeah.
- All the gays go get married.
- Now I feel like I don't need
to prove that point, like why?
Straight people proved that point.
- I don't feel like I don't want to assimilate
anymore in the way that I did then.
- This is the last one.
All right, final question.
Are you ready?
Do you ever miss me?
- Every day.
You were wonderful in so many ways.
I got so many things from you
that I will never get again in a partner.
You were unique and you were special and you were so good.
- Oh. - For me.
And what I needed right then.
Yes, I miss so many things about you.
- I feel the same.
- Some people don't get the chance to, you know.
- People don't get this.
What we're doing right here.
People don't get this opportunity.
Most of the worst couples I don't think would ever sit here
and do this.
- I love you very much. - I love you.
Let's do another shot.
- [Skyler] I guess I miss you.
- (laughs) No more questions, so what else can we do?
We definitely recommend you play this
with your ex-husband or ex-wife.
- Or ex-anything.
(both laughing)
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