Alicia: I just graduated what my associates in medical billing and coding.
I studied medical billing and coding for a hospital.
I really want to do medical billing and coding in the hospital.
Which one do I take first, the CPC or CPC-H?
I think Tammy has some information that she can share for not only the differences in
the two credentials, but Tammy, you might mention about people who have the CPC that
think they want to pick the “H” – that will be another thing to mention too, because
it’s not like you’re a CPC and you say, “Oh, I’ll just pick up the H,” it’s
a little more in-depth than that.
Here’s what she had put in here earlier.
See how pleasant and pleased this coder looks?
I thought that was good slide.
Tammy: OK.
I’m new to this…
Alicia: There’s a little bit of a delay in there, Tammy, when I move the screen it
will move faster for me than it will when you see it.
Tammy: OK.
First, let me answer the question.
I get asked all the time: “What credential should I sit for?”
And here is my standard answer: “I don’t know, which one do you want to sit for?
What is it that you wanted to do?
If you’re telling me that you went to school and you focused on the hospital setting, then
why not take the hospital credential?”
Now, you mentioned the CPC and the CPC-H, both of those are core credentials through
AAPC.
There’s a little bit of difference between the two but not a gigantic amount of difference
between the two.
Do a lot of people have both?
Yes, because once you take the first one, whichever one it would be, the second one
is ten times easier to take because you’ve already studied for 80% of it; so it makes
it really, really easy for you to do that.
Like Laureen and Alicia just talked about, the CPC was focused more towards the physician’s
office.
The CPC-H is focused more towards facility outpatient, and the biggest difference in
that is a little bit of usage and modifiers.
We don’t use modifiers in the facility like you would in your physician’s office.
AAPC they expect us to understand even though we may not always have our fingers in that
pie, they expect us to understand the reimbursement side of the facility coding.
What happens if we don’t use the right code, if we don’t follow those guidelines?
What happens if we put in CPC code that has the status indicator of C on that?
Well, that means we can’t bill it because that’s all about patient code.
Or, if we do bill it, some of them have to approve it because otherwise won’t get paid
for it.
So, that’s the biggest difference between the two.
You do have to know some very specific reimbursement issues for the facility just like if you were
studying for the CPC exam, you need to know some reimbursement issues or positions.
So, it’s just a little bit of difference between the two.
It’s easy to get…
once you get the first one, get that second one, if that’s what you want to do.
That’s great, it’s easy; it’s easy to go back to back.
We’ve even had a couple of the CPC-Hers passed and then turned right around and took
the CPC and vice versa.
We have a lot of students now in the CPC-H side they just got finished taken the CPC-H
course.
Go where your heart is, if you want that facility, then take the facility first; and then if
want to add the CPC then who’s to stop you from taking it.
Look, you can take as many credentials if you want to, or if your pocket will allow
you to.
Alicia: Good point.
[Laughs]
Laureen: Or you have the energy for ...
Thanks for joining us.
Laureen: Thanks Tammy.
Alicia: Thanks Tammy.
Laureen: The only thing that I would add to that is I saw in the chat someone who is brand
new, they’re actually retired and they’re getting into the field.
If you had to pick one or the other and you’re brand new, I would go with the CPC because
it’s just coding.
It’s CPT and ICD and a little bit of HCPCS knowledge.
The CPC-H is all of that plus the reimbursement for outpatient.
If you wanted to just get all the basics down, that CPC is a really good ground level credential.
And then if you want to add the “H” you really just need to learn the outpatient reimbursement
aspect.
That’s my personal recommendation if you’re brand, brand new.
Tammy: Can I add one more, quick thing?
Alicia: Sure!
Tammy: Since Boyd hasn’t muted me yet.
Another thing, where we live here in Louisiana, it’s very small and jobs are kind of – I’m
not going to say limited, but they’re looking for something specific here.
If you’re not sure – and I’m talking about looking for the CPC-H mainly because
the CPC would get you in any door, anywhere – but go in there and look at the classifieds,
or go on to a hospital’s website, what credentialing are they looking for?
And you sort of know which way you like, want to take it.
But like Alicia said, CPC will get you in the door, anywhere, whether that’s with
hospitals or whether that’s with the office.
It just depends on your area.
Some areas are so huge they’re real, real picky and some aren’t.
Alicia: She made a point that I was going to make and then I would add as well – yes,
get to know what they’re wanting in your area,
know your market, but I know a lot of people say, “Well, they all say CCS.”
Well, just because they say they want a CCS doesn’t mean that’s what they’re going
to get.
A lot of times especially in the smaller area, it’s been around since the 1920s, some of
these people that are writing the advertisements don’t realized that there’s the CPC because
they’ve always used the CCS.
So, educate the prospective employer as to what are the benefits of having a CPC and/or
a CPC-H. That’s part of your job in marketing yourself.
Yeah, get out there, let’s see what they want and if you’re seeing one particular
credential all over the place, find out why, ask around and get more information.
So, that was a good slide, we wereable to give a lot of good stuff with that.