You identify yourself as gay. Why do you then choose because it is a choice
Whiny then choose to be muslim when it says explicitly within Islam within Judeo-Christian tradition that that is
Prohibited is the choice
Just like to say that sexual orientation is not a choice. It's not a choice out for
You so you must say don't why would you no no no don't get health in this why would you do?
That that is prohibited
Here's [the] choice at the end of the day you can choose to be much
They doesn't you in the quran that is prohibited. What is prohibited is the anti
Can give you the ayah they exciting. [I] am not here to talk about that one
Let are some sweet. [please] [let] [also] speak. Hey, miss lane respond to your question
I am not here to talk about that one outs what I'm [here] to talk about is love love between two men two women
Where I will it be okay and accepted to be gay in Islam. That is not
It's a loaded question, but I'm sorry you either be gay or you be Muslim. No one is forcing you
Yeah, yep, lady here [on] the blood. I think that is totally wrong
I mean, I I was brought up in an iSlamic household I'm from islamic Community
I'm from a very conservative Pakistani community if my mom and dad can accept me why can't the wider community services?
Just float in the blood another company
and I personally think that the question you're asking is when more the muslim community [accepts] you as a
Gay person accept gay or homosexuality the thing is homosexuality is not accepted in islam
So the Muslim community will never accept homosexuality in a whole
But you being gay or not on a judgemental level you can be gay
But then at the same [time] if you choose to follow a religion which prohibits
Homosexuality, then you can't turn around and ask when will they accept for you to be gay can I just say that?
Yeah, can I just say what are people like me meant to do then you know gay teenagers the suicide rate is going up
Homophobic Crime is going unreported, and it's because of attitudes like this that that is causing
Carter [Lemon] the danger with literalism is
In insisting that there is only one interpretation on one way of doing things if we take that literally if we take literalism
Literally, then only [200] years ago slavery was accepted and justified by religion
Quran explicitly and literally let me finish and make this point the quran literally allows for slavery as does the bible
But we no longer practice it because our attitudes and interpretations have changed there is no one Muslim community
There is no one way of interpreting things if he wants to identify as being muslim as this gentleman here said Abdullah
He said he's not gonna. Tell him he's not a muslim, and I applauded him for that
He said he's not gonna discriminate against him you just did and so he disagrees
kill Tumor here
God does not exclude anyone that is a crucial first point and everyone has the right to
Define for [themselves] what their identity is and we all have identities which quite often are contradictory
We all have to find some way of navigating that remaining faithful to our vision of God while also remaining faithful to who we are
But to add to [that] [also] the rest of society in particular state
Should not try to impose its view of its morality upon islam
This is a conversation that has to happen within Islam that might be here there might be room here to them
And that's what it there might be room for growth and change
Ultimately you decide for yourself
but the idea of saying to someone
You're a sinner even if you do define them as a sinner you cannot be part of this religion that to me is
Anti-God because that's a decision that God makes
You said about interpretation. You're pushing the idea that there was no true interpretation of Islam by that exact logic
You're saying that the people that extremists, right?
[uh] are there their interpretation of religion is also valid there is Mainstream
Islam there are things that are universally accepted within Islam for example the gentleman brought up the idea of
Drinking of doing drugs you know those things are prohibited within islam
I can choose not to do them or I can but for me to go out and say I'm a
Muslim and I drink and that should be accepted. That's not religion
You're completing your conflicting choice
And how somebody is on without choice that first of all he was born the way he is
And I'm sure he can speak for himself what I would like to say to you is
Many many Muslims would consider you sinful for not covering your face and would insist that your sinful
And you can't be a muslim for showing your face
I'm not wearing the jill Bob the long gown so at the end of the day
This is all interpretive and just as you've got the right in fact they've known of these lemons Modestly respond to you, please
No, no talking about interpretation. Can I just finish my point?
They would also say that you shouldn't be speaking in front of men
You shouldn't be on television calm. There are literally HSIhu argue that too, we
Noticed a boxer. [I've] [got] quickly everyone relates
[some] bin Laden was asked right. He was asked
Why'd you go against the islamic prohibitions of killing women and children and he says are the laws not set in stone. Yes
He's a modernist song bin laden is a reinterpretation. It's modernist. He doesn't believe he believed in different interpretation of islam
You can reinterpret it. I'm he's the same mentality imagine the world has to reinterpret scripture when it suits him in the slum
He believes in it. Maybe even people you can't just change some [things] you can't just change those [things]. We're not a shoe