( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE )
WELCOME BACK!
FOLKS, MY NEXT GUEST SERVED AS COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR FOR
PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH AND WAS SENIOR ADVISOR TO THE 2008
McCAIN CAMPAIGN.
SHE'S CURRENTLY THE HOST OF MSNBC'S "DEADLINE: WHITE HOUSE."
PLEASE WELCOME NICOLLE WALLACE!
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>> WOW!
IT'S AMAZING.
>> Stephen: WELCOME.
>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
>> Stephen: THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
FIRST DAY OF IMPEACHMENT HEARINGS.
YOU'VE BEEN ON THE AIR SINCE 9:00 A.M. THIS MORNING, RIGHT?
>> YES, YES.
>> Stephen: DID YOU CARBO-LOAD TO GET THROUGH THE DAY.
>> A DAY OF CANDY AND COFFEE.
>> Stephen: IT'S LIKE RUNNING A MARATHON ALL DAY LONG.
>> WITHOUT MOVING.
>> Stephen: AND SOMEHOW MY NIPPLES ARE BLEEDING.
>> SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
>> Stephen: NOW THE SONDLAND TRUMP CALL, THAT'S-- THAT'S
ONE-- >> THAT'S THE BOMBSHELL THEY
HAD.
>> Stephen: THAT'S ONE I HADN'T HEARD BEFORE.
THAT'S THE ULTIMATE SIGNIFICANCE OF THAT STORY?
>> SONDLAND IS THE MOST CENTERING CHARACTER IN ALL THIS.
I WORKED IN REPUBLICAN POLITICS.
YOU KNOW THAT.
>> Stephen: I USED TO MAKE FUN OF YOUR BOSS A LOT.
>> I KNOW.
I SAW IT A LOT, THREW THINGS AT THE TV.
>> Stephen: YOU'RE WELCOME!
>> WE USUALLY DON'T-- WE USUALLY DON'T GET TO THESE PARTS OF THE
CITY SO THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME, INSIDE, INSIDE.
BUT THE SONDLAND STORY IS SO INTERESTING, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW,
DONALD TRUMP TALKED ABOUT HUMAN CARNAGE IN HIS INAUGURAL
ADDRESS.
>> Stephen: SURE, SURE.
>> SONDLAND EPITOMIZES THAT TO ME.
HE WAS A REPUBLICAN FUND-RAISER FOR THE BUSHES AND HE WAS ON JEB
BUSH'S TEAM BEFORE HE FLAMED OUT IN THE PRIMARIES.
HIGH FINALLY GETS WHAT HE SEEMS TO HAVE SOUGHT FOR SO LONG-- A
PLUMB AMBASSADORSHIP -- >> Stephen: A MILLION DOLLARS
TO THE INAUGURAL CAMPAIGN.
>> HE GAVE MONEY TO OTHER POLITICIANS.
TRUMP IS THE FIRST ONE WHO GIVES HIM AN AMBASSADORSHIP.
HE ENDS UP IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS MESSY SCANDAL.
HE MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE PERJURED HIMSELF.
I'M SURE HE HAS HUGE LEGAL BILLS.
AND HE'S SORT OF IN THE EYE OF THE STORM.
AND THERE ARE REAL QUESTIONS NOW ABOUT WHETHER HE IS THE SMOKING
GUN THAT LEADS THIS WHOLE THING RIGHT TO DONALD TRUMP.
, WHO UNLIKE OTHER SCANDALS THAT YOU SORT OF WORK YOUR WAY UP AND
YOU TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE PRESIDENT KNEW AND WHEN WE KNEW
IT.
THIS WAS DIRECTED AND RUN BY DONALD TRUMP.
>> Stephen: RIGHT, THE VERY FIRST PIECE OF EVIDENCE WE GOT
WAS HIM ON THE PHONE CALL SAYING, "YOU CAN HAVE YOUR
MILITARY AID IF YOU GIVE US-- IF YOU GIVE ME SOME INVESTGATION."
>> RIGHT.
AND IT DIDN'T LEAK OUT.
IT DIDN'T GET, YOU KNOW, HANDED TO SOME DEEP-STATE GUY WHO
HANDED IT TO A DEEP-STATE GIRL WHO HANDED IT TO A RUSSIAN.
HE RELEASED IT.
( LAUGHTER ).
>> Stephen: YEAH.
KIND OF LIKE JUNIOR RELEASING ALL THE EMAILS.
>> RIGHT.
>> Stephen: YEAH.
STUPID DOES NOT FALL FROM THE TREE.
YOU-- YOU WERE UPSET OVER LAURA INGRAHAM'S QUESTIONING THE
PATRIOTISM OF VIND MAN, WHO WAS ONE OF THE NATIONAL SECURITY
OFFICIALS LISTENING IN ON THE CALL, AND TESTIFIED THAT THIS
WAS NOT GOOD.
IT WAS DEFINITELY A QUID PRO QUO.
THIS IS WHAT THEY SAID ON LAURA INGRAHAM'S SHOW, AND THIS IS
WHAT YOU SAID IN RESPONSE.
JIM.
>> HERE WE HAVE A U.S. NATIONAL SECURITY OFFICIAL WHO IS
ADVISING UKRAINE WHILE WORKING INSIDE THE WHITE HOUSE,
APPARENTLY AGAINST THE PRESIDENT'S INTERESTS, AND
USUALLY THEY SPOKE IN ENGLISH.
ISN'T THAT KIND OF AN INTERESTING ANGLE ON THIS STORY?
>> I FIND THAT ASTOUNDING, AND, YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE MIGHT CALL
THAT ESPIONAGE.
>> EXCEPT THOSE PEOPLE AREN'T CHICKEN ( BLEEP ) LIKE THE THREE
OF YOU, AND THEY KNOW THAT HE PASSED A BACKGROUND CHECK THAT
THE PRESIDENT'S DAUGHTER AND SON-IN-LAW DIDN'T.
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>> Stephen: OKAY.
TAKE IT.
YOU SAID IT.
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NOW, YOU'RE DOING THIS, YOU'RE DOING THIS.
ARE YOU DOING THIS BECAUSE YOU REGRET HAVING SAID IT?
>> SO I GOT THE SWEAR JAR IN MY HOUSE.
AND MY SEVEN-YEAR-OLD IS LIKE, "$20, MOM."
"CAN I SEE YOU SAY CHICKEN ( BLEEP )?"
OH, GOD.
INSTEAD OF WATCHING -- >> Stephen: WHAT DO YOU THINK
HAS HAPPENED TO YOUR FORMER REPUBLICAN--
>> SIDE.
>> Stephen: COLLEAGUES?
WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO YOUR SIDE?
BECAUSE THE REPUBLICANS-- YOU KNOW, I DON'T ALWAYS AGREE WITH
WHAT THEIR POLICIES MIGHT BE, BUT THEY HAVE MADE A VERY GOOD
RUN AT ACTING ON WHAT THEY CONSIDERED PRINCIPLE.
WHERE IS THE PRINCIPLE NOW?
>> LOOK, MY PROBLEM WITH THAT SPECIFICALLY AND JUST THE
GALLING NATURE OF THAT EXCHANGE WAS THAT, ONE, LAURA INGRAHAM
KNOWS BETTER.
SHE'S A LOT OF THINGS.
STUPID ISN'T ONE OF THEM?
>> Stephen: EH.
>> WHAT SHE TEED UP THERE WITH JOHN YU-- WHO YOU KNOW VERY
WELL.
YOU WERE VERY AWARE OF IT AT THE SAME TIME.
>> Stephen: SURE.
HE'S THE TORTURE MEMO GUY.
>> CORRECT.
HE KNOWS BETTER.
HE WORKED AT THE HIGHEST LEVELS OF THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT.
HE KNOWS COLONEL VINDMAN ISN'T A SPY.
SO JUST TO LEAVE IT OUT THERE LIKE, "OH, I DON'T KNOW.
ISN'T IT WEIRD THEY SPEAK IN ANOTHER LANGUAGE.
MAYBE A SPY, NEXT QUESTION," IS SO RECKLESS, SO SCARY,
REPRESENTING THE DEBASEMENT NOT JUST OF THE RIGHT BUT THE
DEBASEMENT OF WHAT HAPPENS ON THAT PROGRAM.
>> Stephen: WHY DID IT HAPPEN?
>> I DON'T KNOW.
>> Stephen: WHY IS THIS HAPPENING?
>> I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER TO THAT.
>> Stephen: YOU SAY THEY HAVE BEEN KIDNAPPED.
THEIR SOULS HAVE BEEN KIDNAPPED BY DONALD TRUMP.
DID YOU SAY THAT?
>> PROBABLY, IT'S BEEN A LONG DAY.
>> Stephen: I HAVE A SLIGHT PROBLEM WITH YOUR ANALOGY
BECAUSE KIDNAPPERS DON'T COOPERATE.
>> RIGHT.
>> Stephen: PEOPLE WHO ARE KIDNAPPED DON'T COOPERATE WITH
THEIR KIDNAPPERS.
>> THAT'S A FAIR EMPLOYMENT OF POINT.
>> Stephen: THESE PEOPLE HAVE VOLUNTEERED TO BE KIDNAPPED.
>> IF YOU WATCHED THE TESTIMONY TODAY THEY HAD SEVEN DIFFERENT
WAYS TO HAVE THEIR SOULS HIJACKED.
OH, THAT DIDN'T WORK, TRY THIS.
CALLING VINDMAN A SPY DIDN'T GET TRUMP OUT OF THE TROUBLE HE WAS
IN, LET'S TRY THIS.
JUST LUDICROUS EXCUSE AFTER LUDICROUS EXCUSE.
YESTERDAY'S TALKING POINTS WENT OUT TO THE REPUBLICANS.
AND, LIKE, BEFORE THEY HIT "SEND" DONALD TRUMP HAD
UNDERMINED THEM.
IF I HAD ANY CAPACITY FOR SYMPATHY FOR MY OLD PARTY IT
WOULD BE SO SAD, IT WOULD BE EMBARRASSING.
BUT I DON'T.
>> Stephen: SO YOU SAY YOUR "OLD PARTY."
SO YOU'RE NO LONGER A REPUBLICAN?
>> I'M STILL A REGISTERED REPUBLICAN BECAUSE I CAN BARELY
RENEW MY DRIVER'S LICENSE LET ALONE GO DOWN AND REREGISTER.
BUT I'M NOT A PRACTICING REPUBLICAN.
( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) >> Stephen: WE HAVE TO TAKE A
LITTLE BIT OF A BREAK.
PLEASE DON'T GO AWAY, YOU EITHER, BECAUSE WE'LL BE RIGHT
BACK WITH MORE NICOLLE WALLACE.