Do you think the concept of God can be...
more than one in reality?
Can God be in reality more than one?
Sorry?
Can the creator of this universe be more than one in reality?
I don't think so, no.
So there has to be one God.
Yeah, yeah.
So when we bring about Christianity for example,
you know they believe one God exists in three persons.
And each person is God.
Sorry?
Christians believe there is one God,
and three persons within this one God.
I think... I don't know I think maybe they looked into too much.
I don't know. I think they got the right idea of God.
But I think...
But that's where tritheism comes in.
Because if you have three persons, each one being God,
that's three Gods working together as one family.
That's not monotheism, or believing in one god in Christianity.
Yeah.
When the Christians say Jesus is God or son of God...
They're ready, yeah. They brought the camera for money. Be careful.
It's not for money, man.
So when we say like, as you brought the Christian understanding here,
when they say Jesus is God, his father is God, and the holy spirit is God.
That's saying three things working together, as one family of God.
So it's not one God, it's a family of one God.
So you can have a family of five Gods, you can have a family of millions of Gods,
but it doesn't make it one God.
I don't know, I think everyone looks too much into it. That's what the Christians believe.
Muslims believe something different. But I think it's still the same idea.
Everyone's got the same sort of idea, if you look...
You can't look all them years back, and then how many stories get told and told and told...
People have stuff on you, you'll never get it right.
You will never get it right.
So I think everyone's got the same idea, I think it gets looked into too much, too many arguments.
But in reality, we say is that the universe demonstrates there can only be one creator.'
And this creator has to be absolute.
Yeah.
Absolute.
Do you agree?
Yeah.
Yeah, I agree. Yeah.
That is what Islam is saying.
Yeah, I agree.
Of all religions, I actually think Islam makes more sense.
I think Islam does make more sense.
Yes.
There's not three Gods, there is not this, there is not that...
Islam makes more sense to me.
What do you think about prophet Muhammad (PBUH)?
I don't know too much. I don't know too much about Islam.
To comment on it, I don't know enough about Islam,
to comment and give you my opinion on Islam.
I don't know enough.
Sure.
For the 40 years of his life, he was like an ordinary human being.
Prophethood was bestowed on him by God in the age of around 40.
Before that he was known to his people as a trustworthy, truthful, reliable individual.
As-Sadiq Al-Ameen.
Someone who they trusted that he never lied,
and he would not misplace their trust, if they left something with him.
Yes.
That is his character.
So when God gave him revelation, saying:
"Tell the people that abandon the worship of false Gods,
abandon the worship of idols, and worship one true God."
They turned against him. Because his
people were polytheistic and it was their trait to believe in this,
and continue this trade. Because this is how, you know thriving business is all about.
So they didn't want to abandon their false Gods.
But when they were questioned about, what do you think about this...
You know, who created this whole universe and so on?
They will say: "Clearly this was, you know, God. (Allah)"
So prophet Muhammad (PBUH) when God gave him this prophethood,
He gave him evidence, and proof for the prophethood.
And the major proof or evidence for his prophethood is the Quran.
Do you know the Quran to this day, it challenges people
to produce something like one of its chapters.
If people doubt that this is not from God.
Because you have to have some evidence.
Like, imagine I come along and say:
"I'm the prophet of God, believe in what I say." Right?
Do you think we should just believe just like that?
Of course, we shouldn't.
We want to know, is this really a prophet of God or not?
What is the evidence?
I mean you cannot come along and just say: "Yeah, I am a messenger of God."
So when he told people, he gave them the Quran.
And the Quran was an evidence for his prophethood.
So...
What is it that people find it impossible to imitate the Quran,
If the Quran came in their own language?
Have you read poetry?
No, I haven't
Have you?
We're just learning...
We haven't.
No no, in poetry, English poetry.
Yeah, any language poetries?
No.
Right.
You've read story books, seen films, movies, right?
Yeah.
They're done on a script.
Yeah.
Do you think a particular film that you've watched
is impossible to imitate the storyline?
You can make another storyline like them, right?
Yeah.
That's what we're talking about, how we can look at
literature and whether we can copy those same thing or not.
Quran came in such a form,
it cannot be imitated. It stopped people from imitating this style.
What do you mean?
Transferring it to English and stuff like that?
Not even Arabic language.
People cannot imitate, bring something like it, in the structure that it's constructed.
What do you mean by that?
Yeah.
So normally if someone was rapping, right. Rap songs, right?
You can rap back.
Yeah.
You can similar, imitate something back.
when the Quran came in a particular way,
they were unable to imitate back, to say something similar to it.
Okay.
So that is what is one of the primary evidence of the Quran.
That it is from the creator.
A revelation to the people, know that this is a divine guidance for people.
Because otherwise everyone will say like: "Ah this book is from God and that book is from God."
There has to be something.
So when the Quran gives us information about the past,
which we didn't know anything about.
Like we did not know that there were certain pharaohs,
at the time of certain prophets, for example, they were never called pharaohs,
They were known as kings.
During the dynasty of particular time of the prophet, Joseph.
The pharaohs were not called pharaohs, they were called kings.
During the time of Moses, the prophet,
the pharaohs were known as pharaohs.
If you consider the Bible, it makes no distinction between these two things.
It says both of them were pharaohs.
And the Quran says; No, he was a king during the time of Joseph,
and Moses' time it was pharaoh.
This level of precision, we didn't know until we found out.
From you know historical research and so on.
So when we look at, you know...
Do you know there are,
in our heavens, there are pathways in the cosmos, up there.
Yeah?
Like a spider's web.
You can't see with your own eyes, you can't see what's up there with the clouds that it is.
But when you look at the galaxies, Milky Way is our galaxy.
There are hundreds of thousands of other galaxies.
The way they're spread and conjoined, is like a spider's web.
The Quran talks about, like this heavens like a spider's web.
How does this Quran know this information,
which we today only within this decade, we have come to know?
So we are talking about information the Quran provides for us to reflect,
that this is indeed coming from the divine, from the creator for us, to believe in it.
Yeah?
So if you were to examine the Quran and look at the information,
it talks about the past, and of the future,
and of the present.
You would have to say: "This is astonishing, amazing."
How does this person...
1400 years ago or even more, right?
Yeah.
He knew this information, he was an illiterate person.
He didn't go and learn from anyone.
Because if he knew and learned from someone,
and he came up with this information, people would say:
"I taught you that. We taught you this in our school." Or whatever.
But they were all numb to say:
"Where did you get this information from?"
So when the Quran talks about things that will unfold in the future,
and it happens.
How do you explain this phenomenon?
How does someone know for sure?
For example, this particular individual will die as a disbeliever. Not believing in Islam.
And this person lived for another 10 years, and died as a disbeliever.
How do you know the outcome, even after 10 years or so?
There was a person called, in the Quran
there's a whole chapter, called Chapter of Surat Al-Masad.
About a person whose nickname is given as Abu Lahab,
and because of his persistence, and disbelief,
and arrogance, and stubbornness,
God is simply saying:
"He will perish, and he will be in the hellfire."
When this information was given from the Quran,
this particular individual could have simply come up with in saying:
"I believe...
I believe in God, there is none worthy of worship except God almighty ,
and you are the messenger of God.
So he becomes a Muslim, and makes the Quran false.
He could have done that as a hypocrite.
Yeah.
Because that was something that he could have done for 10 years.
And he died, didn't have the opportunity to even demonstrate to the people outwardly
that he was a Muslim, and he could have proven the Quran to be false.
But he couldn't.
Why? Because the outcome is something the knowledge is from God.
So information like this when you look at the Quran,
it is something that you cannot explain other than
concluding that this information knowledge comes from God.
When the Quran talks about how the baby is developing in the womb of the mother,
from one stage to another, step after step of creation, going through different processes of transformation,
in a physical characteristics.
Fourteen hundred years ago they didn't have a microscope.
The microscope, the earliest microscope that we invented, is by Van Leeuwenhoek 1673.
That, you can't see a human embryo.
You can't even see a human embryo with that microscope.
Yet the Quran describes how the embryo even at 21 days,
appears like a leech, looks like a leech, and functions like a leech.
To that position.
That's what you're talking about, and you can't see with your naked eye.
But the Quran described in such a way, that the people at that time, they understood.
Or human beings transformed to a particular drop-like stage, to a leech-like state.
They understood what, or maybe the human embryo very early stage looks like a leech.
When was Quran written?
Fourteen hundred and forty something years ago.
So if this is what the Quran is telling us,
saying this information is from God,
you just have to look at it, scrutinize it, verify it, and accept it.
Because if the proven evidence is in front of you, and if you don't accept it.
Then do you think you and I will have an excuse in the day of judgment?
When we have seen the evidence, but we rejected it.
So that's why one of the role of our mind is to understand the evidence.
No one's taught it though, no one's taught it.
Me growing up in England, I only learned about the Bible.
We only ever learn about the Bible, you don't get taught about the Quran.
And I would've not known none of them facts till now.
So I've been trying to learn about Islam and there's...
I struggle.
Because people don't....
Yeah, exactly. But we're not taught this advice.
So you say about judgment,
this is what you scare me as well about religions. It's quite scary if you're not...
As in for me, Christian, I was Christian, I was confirmed as well.
And for me to convert, if I was to convert to Islam. It's scary for me to know what if I'm doing the wrong decision.
You're not taught Islam. No, you're not taught nowhere in England.
Not unless you go to law school.
The history as well is very subjective as well.
Yeah.
So my point about judgment,
If I... It was there in front of me, but I was never taught it.
How could I be...
...
Why did you not look into it for yourself? Why did you not...
Do you understand what I'm trying to say?
Like for me, I wasn't born a Muslim but I've embraced Islam,
because I've gone out of my way to actually look into it with an open mind.
Yeah, yeah.
Alhamdulillah.
Hopefully I pass that test. You know what I mean?
So you know your heart and your mind are finely tuned in accepting
that there is a creator, who is one and only.
Yeah.
When the Quran describes God as one and only, absolute independent,
Everyone depends, everything depends on him, and he's independent of everything.
Not born, doesn't produce any offspring and there's nothing like unto...
Sorry mate, I'm waiting to get picked up.
15 minutes, okay.
We don't live around here, we live quite far away.
So when Quran describes who God is, but he's one and only, unique, independent, absolute,
not born, doesn't produce any offspring or children.
So has no fathers or parents, and has no lineage, no offspring.
And there's nothing like unto God, in whatever way.
Would your heart and mind accept this concept of God?
Yeah, I want to learn more.
Yeah. So that is what God is telling you about himself,
that he is God, there is no other God besides him. Neither sleep, nor slumber touches him.
Sorry?
Neither sleep or slumber touches him.
So God doesn't sleep, God doesn't get tired,
he created the universe in six days, and he doesn't need it to rest on the seventh.
Because God doesn't get tired to become refreshed.
Okay.
And you will see how the Christian, Jewish narrative is:
"God created the world in six days, and on the seventh day he rested and refreshed."
That idea of getting resting and refreshing doesn't go in line with your heart and your mind.
That god needs to be refreshed, he needs to have a break to become active again.
No. The Quran says; No he created the universe in six days then he doesn't feel any tired or anything,
because he is the all-powerful.
So the God the Quran describes if you study more and more about the creator,
he gives his name Allah, look at this uniqueness of this name.
There is no Allah(s), there is no Allah him or like in this way,
there is more than one God, Gods. Or Godson or Godfather, Godmother and so on.
Allah is simply a unique name that doesn't take any plurality or gender.
So a name that you can uniquely call and
call upon saying: "Oh Allah!".
But when somebody says "God, Godson, Godfather." don't they? they say.
But Allah is a unique name that totally moves away from any kind of association,
other than who he is in his reality.
And this Allah, he says he is Al-Rahman, the merciful one.
Al-Raheem.
Everlasting mercy from him. He's everlastingly merciful, ever merciful, most merciful.
He is Al-Khaliq, the creator.
He is the one who brings about the creation from nothing. And he repeats it.
He's Al-Adil, he's just.
He's not only forgiving people when they make mistakes, but he's just.
And he'll punish the people who are doing wrong, and they do not repent from it.
So if people die in the state of disbelief or associating partner with God,
they will not have any way to go away from the punishment of God.
Because God being just, he will punish these people
for their disbelief and their arrogance and stubbornness.
So what you and I need to do,
is to worship, thank, and glorify, and be grateful to this creator God, Allah.
Believe all of it currently and die on that state. If we do that, he has promised us paradise.
Heaven, Jannah, which is a place of bliss and tranquility and happiness, joy everlasting,
with no other worse feeling whatsoever.
It's a place of contentment.
This is what Islam is all about, and this is what we Muslims are calling you to.
That you come towards peace and tranquility and happiness, in this life, and in the hereafter.
And it is not that difficult for you to establish that by looking at the proven evidence for Islam.
Thank you.
Yeah, I'll look into.
Please do.
You know we don't believe like a human being can be...
Jesus was a prophet like many other prophets
He was a prophet.
Brother, do we have something to give to our friends?
I want to give you this here please.
This is a copy of a Quran translation.
Read about what it says about God, what it says about the hereafter and so on and so forth.
Because you know you're young.
Yeah.
You may be young and thinking that I said we're going to live for another 100 years,
and let me just live my life in the way I am now.
I'm happy, we're you know, this peaceful contentment loving relationship.
But you don't know when we're gonna die.
Yeah, yeah. You are...
I might die in the next minute.
Even though I'm healthy. No one knows, no one has any guarantee.
So while you're still young and refreshed in your mind,
you know, not polluted in your mind, and not corrupted in your minds,
This is the best time to think about the creator, and take that journey.