Chris Pine: Where are you from? Oslo?
Kjersti Flaa: Yeah. Did you go?
Pine: Never been.
Flaa: You have been? Pine: I've never been.
Flaa: Never. Pine: I'm curious to go.
Flaa: Oh, you should.
Pine: I've never been to Scandinavia before.
Flaa: Yeah. It's great to go now. August is a really good month, I think.
Pine: That's what I hear, up in the Scandinavian countries.
How long have you been out here?
Flaa: I live in New York. I've been there for ten years.
Pine: Oh wow. Do you miss -- do you ever go home?
Flaa: Yeah, I go home twice a year, usually. Summer, Christmas.
Pine: Good. Flaa: Yeah.
Flaa: So I guess both of you, maybe mostly you,
have to take a lot of punches, and stuff?
How are you with pain?
Are you good with dealing with pain?
In general?
Pine: Fascinating question.
Oh ...
I think I am. I've always -- like, um,
growing up, I always loved Indiana Jones,
because he always looked like he was hurt, or about to get hurt, or...
Bruce Willis always looked like he had the shit kicked out of him at some point.
And I always appreciate those characters that are,
no matter how many times they get hit,
they keep on coming back.
And there's something a lot more intriguing and interesting to me,
about very fallible, normal human beings
than, you know, superheroes. And that's Captain Kirk, to me.
Flaa: Have you guys ever been hit in real life?
Pine: Oh, yeah. [Flaa chuckles]
Pine: Not fun. It's not enjoyable, no.
Flaa: So you would run away from fights? Or would you --
Pine: I'm always the guy that's like --
I remember, I had a friend of mine,
very good friend of mine, he always --
Seth -- he'd always be getting in fights.
Constantly getting in -- wanting to get into a fight.
Zachary Quinto: Ah. Seth.
Pine: A really good barroom brawler,
but I was really like, I'd be like, "Seth, look at me.
You sure you want to do this? You sure you want to get in a fight about --"
'Cause it'd always be something ridiculous.
Like a guy, you know, touched his girlfriend in --
[Chuckles] -- like, an inappropriate way or something.
I'm the voice of reason for my friends, I think.
Quinto: Have you gotten into fights, though?
Pine: No, no. Quinto: You got hit, like, working.
Pine. Yeah. Hit working, yeah.
Flaa: So I was talking to Robert Redford yesterday,
and then we spoke about how his looks got, like,
so much attention in Hollywood,
that he kind of felt that he was --
it was getting in the way of his acting.
What do you guys think about that whole --
I mean, it's just as much focus on the looks of the guys in Hollywood now,
as it is on the women.
Or, do you agree?
Like, now, versus when? It's always been, since --
I don't know. Beauty has always been, you know,
talked about, and lauded, and -- since... antiquity.
So I don't think there's any difference now than before, really.
I just think what you're seeing is a compounded ...
need to be beautiful, with all of social media.
Because all social media is about --
I mean, a great deal of it is,
"Look at me, how pretty am I.
How many people like me for being pretty."
Quinto: I think technology has brought us away from the balance between beauty and substance,
and, that -- Pine: Well said.
Quinto: You know, that beauty is -- doesn't have to be substantial anymore.
I mean, it's -- uh, it's --
You can tell by just, the sort of way
when people will just go change their appearance with surgery.
And, you know, it's just this vapid pursuit of, uh --
you know, some unattainable ideal,
that then gets judged, entirely subjectively,
by people outside of themselves.
Um --
It creates a kind of hollowness, you know?
It's not about integrating a sense of what you put out into the world
with a sense of what you cultivate within.
And that's troubling.
I think it's a huge sickness in our society, actually.
Flaa: It's kind of scary, with the way things are going.
Quinto: Terrifying.
Flaa: With everyone just walking around like this all the time.
Quinto: Totally disconnected from one another.
And we think we're so connecting, because we can look at each other's lives,
and we're willing to put our lives out on display,
and share, you know, our most intimate aspects of ourselves with other people,
but yet we're not really cultivating any substance underneath it, you know?
It's, uh, flimsy. Pine: Ephemeral.
Quinto: Collapse, you know?
Flaa: [indistinct]. Nice to meet you.