we made an assessment within our
government about when it was an
appropriate time for her to go to the
border
that was uh jen saki answering the
question from peter ducey about
why are you going tomorrow friday vice
president kamala harris have anything to
do with
july 3rd's appearance uh by the
president who's going to the border
because nobody else is
with me in studios dana perino she is
fresh off her show she's going to give
us an exclusive look behind the scenes
at her show what bill hammer does say in
the breaks and everything like that
because we've heard different reports
but first on this
timing's everything they need to really
deny that this is the reason they're
going but
what about this trip dana i'm just
completely baffled and actually
frustrated and mad because it's just
such a
bad practice of politics and
communication and also of leadership
and of governing because when you run
for office you should want to help fix
problems that's why you run i assume
right
and and so there's that one that your
delta hand
you deal with the hand yeah right that's
what you do um
that wasn't their instincts she blew it
off and
if she had gone to the border let's say
two days after biden had first given her
the assignment she probably would have
had like one bad news cycle right
like one bad news like but but they
wouldn't have then had
90 bad news cycles to the point that
they've ignored it so much
that it wasn't uh the it wasn't fox news
that really held her feet to the fire
because it was
lester holt from nbc news and
even then they don't go so the only
logical explanation of
why she's going now tomorrow is because
they in the white house they must have
said
we have to go before president trump
goes and he'll be there next
week with governor abbott it is just
such a miscarriage of how you should
actually
care about an issue and deal with an
issue i am disappointed because
i was like you know i thought i thought
she'd be a better vice president
i really did and uh maybe i shouldn't
have been hopeful
but i give everyone a chance and i was
like
i was excited that here we have the
first woman president and she's
a vice president she's given this
assignment and she takes a pass
yeah i mean that's unbelievable and you
know what they when i read this and you
no one reads more than you but when they
say that when she got this they said wow
you basically got a grenade
you don't want to be on the board and i
thought to myself no no take the heart
issue
yeah do you think do you like mike pence
guy
also you don't get a choice right so i
know that
there's rumors that vice president biden
was always kind of mad that he got that
assignment from
obama to implement the uh relief money i
can't remember what that was called
after
um the financial collapse and that he
was kind of messed up about that the
stimulus
there was a name for it but but he
didn't complain he did it
because you you have to do it and you
have to wonder about i wonder
well i believe that there's probably
some major
internal political tension between the
west wing and the vice president's
office
that you know they're very good about
not uh leaking
but i can imagine that they're thinking
wow and then on top of that
the other reason that they're going is
because they're reacting to the polls
and it's not just a fox news poll as all
the polls are showing that they're being
dragged down on two main issues the
border
number one that's the biggest one that's
driving their numbers down and the other
one is crime
so in the last 24 hours you have
announcements from the white house that
we're going to do an
announcement on crime yesterday which
was one of the
just again not meeting the moment
to take on the issue of crime in america
in terms of the root causes this is not
the root cause that they're trying to
trying to address here my final thing on
the border issue
is instead of just dealing with it
directly
she's rubbing the spot on the wall and
making everything worse
by not going to the very area where
there's a problem but by choosing to go
to el paso
which is 300 miles away from the actual
problem
you might as well just travel as ted
cruz said to chicago
because yeah that's it's about the same
amount of distance so dana tell me if
i'm wrong about this it is possible if
you go to the border and you keep
pushing away people to get the answers
hey what is the problem here
you don't necessarily okay maybe the
first person that meets you is told to
go meet you
you keep walking through the border
patrol agency you could find the people
that are actually in charge you go out
today
what was it like out there what is the
main thing you need is there a barrier
are you guys need some eyes on this
could drones help
then all of a sudden you have a contact
and then i'll say i want these things
handled you have a handler with you go
can we can we address these concerns
here
then you have somebody to lean on to
make a call to say are things getting
better do you still have
as many unaccompanied minors there are
those camps sensing out
were you able to get a response you
create relationships you could make it
ceremonial if you just want to show up
or you could actually make it
substantive you can do that
well if you think about um let's let's
think of maybe a natural disaster
right uh a big tornado big hurricane um
and the president of the united states
whoever it is
heads down or the governor goes to the
area
and just as exactly as you're saying
you're walking along you're asking
fire and rescue you're asking uh
business owners what is it you need what
is it you need and you turn to your aid
and you say
let's make sure we do that i want this
handled by tomorrow
make sure you okay this and that so and
then brian for example yesterday when
uh president biden's giving his
announcement about
gun crime he says there's a lot of
extra coveted relief money out there so
we're saying that you could use that to
help fund the police
what so then are you
serious the first of all did we not need
that much stimulus in the first place
but second
we've been telling you we've been trying
to tell you that the defund the police
movement
is a problem and not just me think of
abigail spanberger the congresswoman
from virginia
who the day after the election last fall
said we almost
lost the majority to the democrats
because of this very issue
of defund the police absolutely
i'm a little fired up today i'm like so
mad my voice gets a little higher
but you know but no no i hear you uh but
just to finish up on the border for a
second i want people to hear
uh how disappointed people are and angry
they are that they're not addressing the
thing at the border and here's why
because we all know people who work the
border patrol so while people debate
back and forth and you know he was
you won an election you lost an election
you're up in the polls every day they
have to go up and do a job they're not
supposed to be doing they're supposed to
be behind a desk or in a facility
they have to go out there in their
pickup trucks and pick up 170
000 people a month some of which are
unaccompanied minus then you find out
that they could be getting rid of title
42
that turned around 650 000 people they
claim because of it because of the
health reasons
now because it's a trumpier thing and
they don't want to go to court and fight
it
in one week they could now not now no
longer have an excuse
to turn these people around then they
told the people that were detained from
the
from the remaining mexico people they
told them we're going to rehear your
cases
and there's 1.2 million cases already
in the pipeline so these people
basically get to live in america until
those cases are hurt how long do you
think that backlog takes to figure out i
don't even know if they're going to try
to empty it
i don't know if they're going to do it i
mean there was a talk about getting
judges down there i don't think anyone's
hearing anything
this is what john cornyn said yesterday
from the house floor
hardly somebody just to uh to act
emotionally cut 28.
rio grande valley sector is the
epicenter of this human crisis
yet here she is planning a trip in a way
that reflects again
she doesn't really fully comprehend the
magnitude of the crisis
and where it's where it really exists
on steroids which is the rio grande
valley she's nearly a hundred days late
and a thousand miles short so it's going
to be a 90 day visit so i
i ask you it's not even a good pr move
to do this so you're not even solving a
problem you actually creating
more angst spot on the wall and you
think about henry cuellar he's the
democratic congressman from the area
that's having that's been affected
he was just on newsroom and we asked him
what he thought about her visit to that
sector in el paso and he said it's
politically safe
and that's why they're going there
there's a democrat who's trying to warn
them like you guys
you one no he's trying to warn them
politically yes but also
number two he's just looking at all of
his constituents who are flailing around
asking for help and this issue about
title 42 and allowing all the people to
come in even if they have coveted
whatever
um one that's you they don't nobody was
clamoring for that issue to be taken off
the table the cdc
right they're not saying oh yeah we
should really allow all these
unvaccinated people to come in the
country that's not happening
so they're taking a tool that they had
off the table and just making their
problems so much worse
i will bring up something else that's
going to even get you even
mood today so angrier you know uh
there's about three there's a move on
the democratic
house members to offer free vaccinations
to people who are crossing illegally
if you want a magnet to get tens of
thousands of people more
come to america illegally and get a
vaccine as opposed to stay in mexico and
not get one
well we're gonna get people from japan
coming in right or
india yeah or any place where you would
where they're having a lot of problems
um like i'm for vaccines being able to
get out to some of these countries
indeed but remember when she was in
guatemala and she said do not come
well if you're doing free vaccine and
you get to stay and the backlog is 1.2
million and we're not going to
and we're going to reunite families and
we're going to make sure that if you
have a child with you
you get to stay until you have a court
hearing
then the root cause to me is not in
guatemala
it's at the white house dana perino's
here and dana i also thought you guys
covered this might have been yesterday
about the psychological trauma of these
kids who are staying now not in tent
cities
but now in military bases and there's no
end in sight especially the teenagers
they're starting to show unbelievable
signs of anxiety
because they don't know where they're
going it might be better to be in
america they just
they have no experience of the plus as
being america so not only they came here
with strangers they were dropped off at
the border they moved to facilities
and gensake bragging how they're not
staying in these
facilities too long they're staying a
military base is now too long
we have nowhere to put them no one they
want this to go away
my hope is that if there's any justice
in this world
they're going to be forced to address
this problem and it doesn't seem like
the rest of the media is forcing them
to the way they should to address this
problem not necessarily but you know
what uh the other thing that a visit
does is it forces everybody to talk
about the issue
right so that's one of the reasons that
if you're henry cuellar you're
asking the vice president or or the
president to come to the border see what
i'm seeing rio grande valley where he is
yes because you want them to see it so
that they will hopefully help your
people
that's the whole purpose of like really
wanting to have a visit
um when she goes to the border tomorrow
there will be a lot of coverage about it
it's unavoidable do you have any sense
of what type of blowback cuellar is
getting
um if it is if he is getting blow back
from
the um from other democrats he's it's
not
it's not affecting him so he might be
getting a lot
um but he doesn't care and the other
thing politically
for those people who said texas is about
to go uh blue
as this was really delayed it may be
forever because we see that republican
governor get elected right there uh for
the first time in in decades
in mcallen and mccallum yep and i also
think the uh when you saw so many
hispanic
hispanic districts turn towards trump in
the last election
this is not going to this is this policy
is not going to have the hispanic
community embrace
uh this and i do think it's very much
coupled with the crime
issue in people's minds it's not that
they necessarily think that illegal
immigrants are causing all the gun
violence no but
the whole feeling of a destabilization
or not feeling secure
feeling like your families are not going
to be safe and that nobody's doing
anything about it
that will that can have a permanent
effect on how people think about
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