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ALYSSA GOODMAN: A lot of times when we're talking about this PredictionX
effort in many different venues, people say, oh, you
must be doing a lot about astrology, because they know I'm an astronomer.
And I say no, actually I know nothing about astrology.
But given how many people are very, very interested in their own horoscope
today, and people have been interested in that for generations,
we really thought it was important to include
an expert astrologer, modern astrologer in the course.
Not Isaac Newton who is an expert old astrologer.
KATHLEEN MEDINA: When I think of astrology I think it's man in astronomy.
ALYSSA GOODMAN: Mhm.
KATHLEEN MEDINA: You know, it's this kind of how it might affect that person.
ALYSSA GOODMAN: Yeah.
KATHLEEN MEDINA: Those planets around that person.
So when we look at a chart, we are looking at the center
as if you were standing in the center and the center is earth.
ALYSSA GOODMAN: OK.
KATHLEEN MEDINA: OK?
So obviously, you know, the solar system it would be heliocentric.
ALYSSA GOODMAN: Right.
KATHLEEN MEDINA: But when we look at it we're looking at from you on the earth
and what the planets are symbolizing about you.
ALYSSA GOODMAN: Is there any kind of, like, physical connection
between the actual pole of planets, for example, on a person
and what is forecast for them?
KATHLEEN MEDINA: Everything's interconnect.
ALYSSA GOODMAN: OK.
KATHLEEN MEDINA: And so that's my sense.
And that the movements do affect us.
And, um, I'm not sure what it is, but I can tell you
after years of working with people and charts,
it's uncanny what a chart reveals and what the movements of planets or stars
can say about the person or what's going to happen.
ALYSSA GOODMAN: Well you got me very curious now.
KATHLEEN MEDINA: So I'm not sure what the exact connection.
I know there's a connection.
ALYSSA GOODMAN: OK.
KATHLEEN MEDINA: You know?
And from observation-- personal observation, you know.
Not just going on faith, but that this is--
this is amazing, how, you know certain things just come out over and over.
ALYSSA GOODMAN: So if I understand, a lot of it
is like people have done this kind of astrology for thousands of years and--
KATHLEEN MEDINA: Yep.
ALYSSA GOODMAN: --and I don't want to put words in your mouth,
but that they just kind of learned more and more about what kinds of things
you can predict from the positions of planets.
KATHLEEN MEDINA: Exactly.
I think a lot of this is in some ways pattern recognition.
You know, when you have certain combinations,
certain things tend to happen.
ALYSSA GOODMAN: Mhm.
KATHLEEN MEDINA: And it--
ALYSSA GOODMAN: Now would the same things happen for all people born
at the same time in the same place?
KATHLEEN MEDINA: No.
And that's what become--
that's where it's interesting.
ALYSSA GOODMAN: Mm, OK.
KATHLEEN MEDINA: So I was just going to say I--I don't believe that everything is
set in stone, you know.
I believe that there's basic patterns and then
we have this free will to move within these patterns.
ALYSSA GOODMAN: OK.
KATHLEEN MEDINA: So you'll see some people with a certain configuration that's
very pronounced.
And you'll go, oh that person is going to be very successful.
And they can do-- and maybe that doesn't fully materialize.
And they had somebody else born on that date at that place--
place is important too--
at that time, which is very important, the time.
They may completely, you know, fulfill that potential that we're reading--
ALYSSA GOODMAN: Got it.
KATHLEEN MEDINA: --in the chart.
Astrology, because it's so intricate, is about the relationships
between that planet and the sign, which means the part of the sky it was in.
And how it's relating to the other planets
and relating to earth in a particular time
or particular day or particular place.
ALYSSA GOODMAN: What would you say is the balance among your clients of people
who are very seriously looking to you for advice about, you know,
business decisions and their love life and whatever?
And-- and then other people who are just kind of curious
and want to have the experience of knowing their horoscope?
KATHLEEN MEDINA: In my-- in my practice I would say I'm about 80-85% more
serious--
ALYSSA GOODMAN: OK.
KATHLEEN MEDINA: --guidance, and maybe 15 to 20% were of the curious.
ALYSSA GOODMAN: Got it.
Do you ever give people bad news?
KATHLEEN MEDINA: Well I don't look at anything as bad or good.
I look at it all as energy.
I'll tell people what to look for.
ALYSSA GOODMAN: OK.
KATHLEEN MEDINA: Yeah.
Um, I can tell when there's going to be a lot of change.
OK?
I can tell when somebody's going to go-- they're
going to need to let something big go.
ALYSSA GOODMAN: Mm hmm?
KATHLEEN MEDINA: OK?
So I can tell if there's something going on maybe with Pluto working,
or Saturn aspecting Pluto, that they're going to have to let a wave being go,
or there's some aspect of their lifestyle that needs to change.
And my feeling is--
I'm kind of an optimist anyway.
But my feeling is-- is that how I read astrology
is it's a way to understand ourselves and our lives to help us.
So if there are the more difficult or you're
saying bad or challenging aspects, I ultimately see it from the big picture,
is trying to help us evolve.
ALYSSA GOODMAN: Given that we're talking about this being a long tradition
and that people didn't know Pluto was even there
or that it was a planet or a dwarf planet or whatever we want to call it--
KATHLEEN MEDINA: [LAUGHTER] Yeah.
ALYSSA GOODMAN: Something in the solar system.
Um, does it have new significance because it exists, or?
KATHLEEN MEDINA: Well I understand your question.
So yeah we didn't read the three outer planets,
right, until the last 150 years or so.
And so we wouldn't have looked at that probably as aspecting Pluto.
This is your map of you.
ALYSSA GOODMAN: OK.
My universe.
KATHLEEN MEDINA: This is your universe.
This is giving me like a-- like a Polaroid of what was in the sky.
ALYSSA GOODMAN: OK.
KATHLEEN MEDINA: OK.
And so when you were born--
and we need the place, the date, but we need the time to be really accurate.
ALYSSA GOODMAN: OK.
KATHLEEN MEDINA: Because, as you know, the planets rotate in 24 hours.
So what's coming up over the horizon is changing every two hours, roughly.
And that's called your ascendant.
ALYSSA GOODMAN: Mm hmm.
KATHLEEN MEDINA: This sets the tone of the whole chart.
So what's rising in the sky is setting the whole tone for you in terms
of how--
it's like the lens you see life through.
ALYSSA GOODMAN: OK.
KATHLEEN MEDINA: That's called your ascendant or rising sign.
ALYSSA GOODMAN: OK.
KATHLEEN MEDINA: Your rising sign is Libra.
And Libra is an air sign, so this is more working with the intellect.
Libra is also about balance.
Libra is the scales, right?
So we have balance.
We have diplomacy.
It's very partnership oriented, wanting to work together
with other people and teams.
So the houses are fields of influence.
In your case, 9th house up here, top of the chart,
is representing higher education.
It's representing developing the mind.
It's represent foreign travel.
It's expansion of what's possible in the world.
ALYSSA GOODMAN: So let me back up for a second.
So this is about-- what--what we've been saying is about sort of what kind
of person I might be, what kind of personality I have.
And then does this kind of horoscope get more
specific about events that are going to happen in the future,
or people's tendencies?
KATHLEEN MEDINA: No.
We can-- we do both.
ALYSSA GOODMAN: OK.
KATHLEEN MEDINA: So this is your-- your map.
This is your star map.
This is-- this is giving me a blueprint.
This is your basic makeup, OK?
As an astrologer to look at it.
This is permanent for you.
ALYSSA GOODMAN: Mm hmm.
KATHLEEN MEDINA: So then what we do is we can look
at any particular time in a person's life.
ALYSSA GOODMAN: OK.
KATHLEEN MEDINA: Now when people come to see me
they're usually looking at what's going on now, or maybe this next year,
or roughly at this time.
And so I do what's called a transit--
there's different things you can do.
I do a transits chart because it's the most literal.
It's literally where the planets are transiting, you know, in the orbit,
and how they may be aspecting your birth chart.
So what we do is, when we look at predictions
we're looking at what is that nature and what may be aspecting it.
Maybe what is-- what is--
what's another word I can use for that?
Um, what is playing on it?
ALYSSA GOODMAN: OK.
KATHLEEN MEDINA: So basically it's another way of saying what's up for you.
ALYSSA GOODMAN: OK.
Yeah.
What's up for me?
KATHLEEN MEDINA: What's up for you?
One of the things that does jump at me is that you've had Uran--
this is Uranus in Aries.
And it's been in Aries since about March--
the planet Uranus has been in Aries since I think March 2011.
So about seven years it's in there.
It has an 84 year orbit.
And it is working its way through your seventh house.
What that tells me, without knowing you, is this
could be very interesting, good news for your love life.
ALYSSA GOODMAN: Mm hmm.
KATHLEEN MEDINA: And because Uranus in Aries is--
is wanting to-- Uranus is, we call it, the awakener.
OK.
We call it the awakener or the rejuvenator.
And it's an Aries.
It's like wanting new energy, new action.
ALYSSA GOODMAN: Sounds great.
I have a lot of decisions to make about how many long trips to go on, um,
in the next six months or so.
KATHLEEN MEDINA: OK.
ALYSSA GOODMAN: And it could be anywhere from about three to about six.
And six seems like kind of too much.
And is there any reason I should go on every trip that I could go on?
KATHLEEN MEDINA: So I can see that more opportunities are coming to you.
I mean, no question.
And there's-- and travel would be one of them.
However, you don't have to take everything that comes along.
And-- and there is more of a relaxing into some of this.
And you're-- here's one thing I'm going to tell you for sure--
Is you need to trust your intuition more.
And I'm not just saying that as a blanket statement.
I'm saying that to you.
Because you have planets lining up in such a way
that are suggesting that your intuition is opening even more.
This could even indicate like a spiritual opening.
ALYSSA GOODMAN: OK.
KATHLEEN MEDINA: Some sort of-- you know-- it could be through religious study,
it could be through an experience.
But it's a spiritual opening.
It's an opening in that consciousness.
This is indicating a lot of intuition.
You already are extremely intuitive based on your birth chart.
This is tied to the travel question.
ALYSSA GOODMAN: OK.
What does that mean?
KATHLEEN MEDINA: So this is--
I'm not going to say taking it easier--
let me find the words for you--
ALYSSA GOODMAN: More time at the spa?
KATHLEEN MEDINA: Yes.
ALYSSA GOODMAN: Oh excellent.
KATHLEEN MEDINA: And you know-- you know, honestly, I don't--
I don't--
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