did not give the oath of allegiance to al-baqara for an extended period of time
there is this narrative out there now i'm going to go over this in not that much detail but
inshallah enough for us for just to understand it as i already explained a few weeks ago it's
not my goal or desire to really otherwise these issues with no exaggeration you can have three
four five lectures just on the controversies between the sunni and the shia in the time of
and then another 50 lectures in the time of ali and whatnot we don't have time even and it's not
interest it's not of our interest in our iman as i said to go into that nonetheless just to gloss
over it once uh and also before i begin this narrative uh from our perspective we do have a
version of events that's different from the other group okay please keep this in mind anytime uh
you hear that oh this happened that happened and you hear it from a source that is not our source
realize there are two narratives there's two historical narratives now those narratives agree
on some key points but both narratives disagree on many points is that clear right both narratives
and of course i mean the sunni and the narrative here they agree on some key points but they
disagree or they have details each one has details the other does not have and in the end of the day
for the beginning muslim you really must decide which of the two narratives you want to accept
because the average muslim is not qualified to go into the authenticity of the references here the
reference is there really it's a theological issue where the average muslim simply needs to make a
judgment call do you really think there was so much hatred and animosity that was hidden amongst
the great sahaba for so many years or do you think which is a sunni narrative that there was not
that much maybe there was some little bit here and there of human nature even between Abu Bakr and um
minor things happen we just talked about that a few weeks ago right where uh in the fu that um
had an issue with him right but they reconciled so what then if abu bakr and ali
might have had a minor issue and then they reconciled so to make that minor issue and
make it so big which is what is happening here this is the problem maybe there was something
very trivial maybe but so what and the other thing as well is that from our perspective
this whole dwelling on the past is unhealthy and unnecessary and from the shi'i perspective frankly
that is what shiism is primarily about frankly i'm not trying to be derogative here i'm just
trying to state a fact that from their perspective they feel the rights of the al-bait were taken
unjustly and they must continue to bring up to this day and one could respond
even if you feel this way allah will judge not you so you do what you can with your life
and to go back 13 and a half 14 centuries and say he did this she did this that allah will
judge them if you really feel this way allah will judge them and to keep on living in those memories
and they did this and he did this and those are deprived of that what is to be gained now it is
really a question that needs to be asked and of course from our perspective there's much to be
lost and that is disrespecting the sahaba it is better to er on the side of caution and be quiet
even if you feel a certain way are you the judge obviously not allah is the judge
so let allah judge it's a past incident move on but as we know that's not the reality and also
the fact of the matter and i mentioned this in my karabakh lecture as well you even see this in
the knowledge of the sunni and the knowledge of the sheri the average sunni really is not that
knowledgeable about what happened in this time frame because his belief is not affected by it
whereas the average she is very much aware of his version not our version of his version of what
happened abu bakr did this um did this uthman did this all of them have a long list right
and when the average only hears this he's like i never heard this in my life
because their religion and their narrative is not based upon these facts allah and his
messenger the quran and sunnah this is what islam is based on historical incidents no
matter what happened it's not going to change theology correct it's not going to change
belief in allah and belief in the messenger it happened whatever happened but nonetheless
just to go over this in a quick manner uh from our perspective from our perspective
uh definitely approved of and accepted um
and he was an advisor to all three of them and he occupied ministerial positions in all three of
their khilafah's and this is a fact that even the shia accept they don't deny this fact what fact
am i mean is the ministerial positions right they say that he didn't agree or he didn't like their
they disagree with this point but they do not deny that he was a
basically the equivalent of a minister i.e in every one of the khilafas he had a role to play
he was either a judge he was a in the surah he was sent to be a governor they don't deny this
and the mere fact that he was used by the three to be a primary player in the government clearly
indicates what from our perspective that they got along now did they have minor disagreements
of course they did but that's a part of being human we talked about this many times
even between umar they're raising their voices in front of the process of sometimes they're
having arguments and then they reconcile and we said in that humanity is our perfection right
in that humanity is our perfection of our role models between the sahaba so from our perspective
he might have it might have crossed his mind that maybe uh maybe i might be the khalifa after the
death of the prophet saw there's nothing wrong with this if somebody thinks this but he accepted
that is the key point here and and here's one of the points whenever you talk about these things
you bring the books along and you open them up and this is the standard stuff which i haven't done
but today i'm not doing it to like give you an art of authenticity but simply because
uh i didn't want to translate all of these long passages and just bring the arabic
and it does help to know that these are authentic references so from us sahih bukhari
in the edition i have it's volume 7 uh page 749 hadith number 4447 uh and this is in the
book of malazi the book of sira of the sahih bukhari the chapter regarding the death of the
prophet salam an interesting episode episode that shed some beautiful light for us to benefit from
it is reported from abdullah bin abbas that ali ibn abi
visited the prophet sallallahu islam in his death bed sickness in the sickness that he was about to
pass away in and when he came out the people said to him that's his kunya how is the prophet alaihi
wasallam so ali ibn abi talib said he has woken up in good spirits alhamdulillah in other
words he thinks he's going to be okay as i said everybody thought he would be okay okay then abbas
took him by the hand-pulled him aside and he said to him unto Allah
which is basically he is saying after three days you shall not have a leader meaning
the process will die within three days and then he said Rasool Allah
and I swear i am positive that the prophet saws will pass away because of this sickness because
i know the looks on the faces of the Banu Abdul Muttalib at the time of death, in other words,
abbas is much older and abbas have seen so many of his own relatives die including his father
including Abu Talib including Abu Lahab these are all and he's seen them one after the other and he
and this is you know Subhanallah it's something that people are gifted with some people
that you just you know something and abbas said I have seen abba Allah said i have seen
the look on his face it is the look of death of the children of Banu Abdullah
and he is of the children and so abbas are saying listen to this
let us go to the prophet saws and ask him who shall this matter be given to
because hadith is in Bukhari and
who is the older the senior age-wise right he's lived life longer because is still he's not young
like Zayd sorry Usama he's not like 19 but he's not like Abu Bakr and um either right
he is 30 years old right now and 30 is not that young but neither is it
60 and Abu Bakr was 60 at this time okay there's a big difference between 30 and 60 as
everyone in this audience knows no matter what your age is you all know the difference so
abbas is now 60 and he is the one telling Ali to let's go and ask him who does this
matter belong to in kanafina al-imna malik if it is amongst us meaning who is us here
and if it is to other than us then we should also know this and he shall give
us our due or whatever is our we'll see as well he'll tell us what our role is as well
ali said in
alaihi wasallam and he were not to give this command to us then the people will never give
it to us either in other words if he's not going to give it to us now then nobody is
going to then afterwards they're going to say oh the protestant did not give it to you
and so by allah i will not ask him who this matter belongs to now this shows us so many things
firstly that the idea crosses the minds of abbas and so what so be it it is halal it is natural
there's nothing wrong with this why wouldn't it cross their minds
after all the son-in-law he is one of the closest he has a long history of being in the forefront
and it is human nature to want to influence others in a positive manner and this means
to be in a position of leadership who amongst us inshallah with the best of intentions does
not want to help other people right so we have no problems at all affirming that ali had this maybe