today we're looking at one of the most expensive
tools we've ever had on the channel it's the Milwaukee Force Logic knockout tool
it goes through that light butter with great price comes great responsibility and i'm expecting for
what we pay for this to be immensely impressed uh well hopefully what disappoint Gary because yeah
you know me i like i like a tool with a purpose you know we've previously on the channel reviewed
the Makita coffee machine which divides the efixx team but uh yeah will this uh force logic from
Milwaukee will it be a winner for us here at efixx compared to our traditional way of cutting holes
the cone cutter the step cutter or the hole saws that everybody's using so we have teased this out
previously in a short and everyone said why didn't you use a hole cutter or a or a step drill that's
what we're using but hopefully today we can prove that this tool is of worth and there's something
possibly for the serious metal launcher we don't think it's a hobbyist tool if you're
the occasional uh this is not a hobbyist let's stop there this is not a hobbyist tool because
it's not hobbyist money okay and we will reflect on the cone cutter and the hole saw in another
video as well but i'm going to need to see what's in this box before you show me the receipt for it
here we go so what we got then okay so here's the uh here's the star of the show
this is the Milwaukee force logic this is obviously the hydraulic element of it
it works on the M18 battery system and it comes with a two ampere hour battery it did come with
the battery it did come with a battery but yeah it's only the two amp hour but i think that'll do
a significant number of holes um obviously and the charger to go with it uh and then some selection
of bits you need obviously the most important bits being the punch and die selection uh of course a
bit like uh you know when you buy a car when there's some switches missing on the dashboard
yeah clearly with there's a few missing in this uh European kit i suspect our American friends
get the two inch conduit adapter included and the one and a half inch conduit adapter or in
metric terms 50 millimetres and 63. it goes up to 100 is that right it goes up
100 but in this one we've got starting at yeah 16 millimetres 20 millimetres 25 32 and 40 millimetre
cutters so pretty logical sizes for an electrical contractor then yeah that's it and there's some
other parts in that we're going to show you as we go through the demonstration
should we look at that demonstration then okay so let's get started with the force logic knockout
tool get it out of the box getting like a box especially when it's full of accessories like this
well i'll have a pouch and you're going to have to win me over but i'm leaning in already
it looks great yeah so first thing i'm going to do is put this adapter in that allows us to use
a quick release mechanism so paired with that is this guard tool just in case you
want to attempt to stick your finger into the mechanism which i would advise with
yeah 60 kilonewtons of force is not a good idea so this latches with this ball adapter here
and then there's our activating tool for the for the die there's two different sides of those
adapters this is the smaller one yes this is a smaller one so a smaller adapter for smaller sized
um dies itself so let's just centre punch with our automatic centre punch where we're gonna drill
through so yeah the one thing everyone else misses out the reviews yes you do have to drill a pilot
hole in this case 12 millimetres of the day she actually says 11.1 couldn't get that in a whole
punch in a in a in a drill but so we have to go with the nearest which for us is 12 millimetres
so you've got some of your favourite right there Gary what is it yes the old cooling gel yeah
so get the get that out of the way we've drilled our pilot holes for now let's just assemble
uh the so there's the die mechanism onto the activator put that in there and then put our
cutting die underneath so we've drilled a hole but we're going to benefit from having that a super
clean hole when we cut it aren't we well if this if this review turns out well it will be clean if
it's not then it'll be a raggy hole but there we go pulling that through now okay it's just single
trigger to operate that and there we go we've removed that uh additional material so i've put
a 25 millimetre hole in there okay so that's the 25mm one we're going to obviously see the
remnants of that material now when it comes out yeah so again you always have to unscrew the die
anyway if you were going to use another um another for this for another hole and there's our waste
material and that hole is super smooth and i would say that's probably the biggest feature isn't it
the fact that you're not coming in you're not deburring and it's punched not actually drilled
out that hole yeah and that's a 25 millimetre adapter and it's exactly sized for that so now
let's uh just up the size a bit to a 40 millimetre means i need to use a bigger activating pin so i'm
going to need to swap that over you can go as big as 100mm all right yeah can in in mild steel
that's three Milwaukee thickness or two and a half Milwaukee in stainless steel you'll see this is
marked it's handed you can see pointing towards the tool and pointing towards where you put the
the die so we know a 20 mil hole in order that we can get our pin in is that right yes that's it
mark that on the step drill there Gary because sometimes you get a bit carried away with a step
drill and miss your steps a bit like missing a bus stop however it wouldn't necessarily be an
issue and we'll see that later on in the video if your hole was a little bit too big no that's it
it would be on the 16 millimetre one though Gary i can tell you that that's that's for a future
video okay so all good so i'm going to spin this in the bottom as usual and then we're going to
so the good thing about this quick release mechanism you're putting it in there then
bringing the tool in swivelling the guard round if you didn't have that obviously you'd have to wait
the two on there before you're ready to go there's something quite satisfying about seeing it punch a
hole out rather than cut one isn't that good yeah that's it there we go really quick really clean
again just push the trigger again to release the mechanism swivel around the guard
and then yeah we've removed it that's the advantage of that quick release mechanism you can
get the tool and the die off there okay so again opening out we'll see the material left uh behind
yeah it's good super smooth hold on take it when you rub your finger and
take your glove off couldn't you it's really as smooth yeah
so now let's look at another scenario where we traditionally might have used the old double hole
saw trick we're going to enlarge an existing hole okay so we're going to make this what
40 mil hole from a 25 mil yeah that's the only die we could afford in this set so yeah we'd love to
have the 100 millimetre one but uh yeah we're stuck at 40. so i've marked the centre lines of
that hole you could potentially go off centre if you wanted to move your hole a little bit forward
put that in place and then just line it up with the the marks we've got the red marks on the on
the uh on the on the uh die are great for that and i didn't realize what they were for so that makes
logical sense so i could have brought it forward backward left or right from that original hole
we've centred it and now we're going to go from 25 mil to 40 mil okay again just push that trigger
we should have a nice clean roll emerging seal yeah just popped out don't it yeah
that's really good in it yeah those lines are perfect
so again same procedure in terms of removing the material we've just cut out just release
the mechanism and it just pops out that ball ball attachment is really good so i'll just swivel the
cutting die out yep and you see the lines as well i like that yeah that's really good one thing
people say is in that can you do stainless steel yeah so the most difficult bit about the stainless
steel is drilling the pilot hole but i'm going to demonstrate another feature here we're going to
remove the quick release mechanism to shorten the tool so say you were going to work inside a panel
and you just needed to gain a little bit more depth okay so you make it a little bit more
compact for us then so remove the guard and we're just going to remove the adapter for the ball pull
okay and then we're going to put the activator straight into the uh into the device itself
we'll say going to shorten it roughly about 100 mil yeah it's about 100 millimetres again you'll
see it's uh it's handed on this pole you'll see it's marked up for which side goes into the into
the tool and which side goes into the die okay that's a little bit of Milwaukee branding on there
yep so just we got to get this tight we're just obviously just spinning it in yeah so do that but
then the challenge is obviously you've got to hold the hole uh tool itself while you put the punch on
but you can see there we've shortened it by about 100 millimetres so now i'm just going
to punch from the inside out on this panel so put the put the die on this side and then we're going
to put the punch on the outside ah right okay we should see this will be the first one you
get are really good and this is uh in stainless steel so this is probably pushing it to its limit
yeah this is about one and a half millimetres but we'll do a two and a half millimetre
stainless steel again just push the trigger and watch this wow it's not going through butter
yeah that is really good
yeah and again just remove that you can see how cleanly it's got that
and we know we're gonna have a smooth hole we've seen it before and we yeah but
unbelievably smooth well there's one thing that's undoubtable there it was a smooth hole we said
how many times you said that's a smooth hole that's a smooth hole what's a smooth hole it
it's a smooth hole and it's you know stainless steel this is 316 grade stainless steel marine
grade stainless that is notoriously difficult to work with and yeah okay the most difficult
bit is drilling the pilot hole that's the that's the issue people have got to get over
but obviously it depends on the market you're working if you're in stainless steel
you're doing a lot of stuff in food factories and stuff like that yeah well if you're drilling a 20
mil hole to punch out 100 mil hole in stainless steel i would argue the payoff of drilling that 20
mil hole and it doesn't matter as we said they're a bit raggedy that you could actually punch out a
perfect 100 mil hole yeah no deburring etc with that yeah exactly so yeah so that side it's
i think it's you know me i like a i like a a tool with a purpose and i think this yeah does
a great job if that's what you're into yeah and again it's not for the occasional cutter of holes
the step cut is a perfectly adequate tool and people are using them this one down here
so as i come off me step and back on it again there we go okay anyone notice i'm a little taller
so if i go back here that's my true heart i'm getting a little bit fed up with beans for sure
so we've got this one from Mandrex somewhere as well that's the electrician's hole saw kit which
we like with a fine-tooth blade don't we yes we do and if you watch our next video you'll see how
this mandrake system compares head-to-head with what we've got in the Milwaukee not head-to-head
we're not having a race because i know this works this bit of kit here does never appear
on my side of the race and i'll end up with the traditional method and we know for people who've
watched the races before how they all finish so we'll call that a review we will and uh so this
is on the second time we've featured Milwaukee on the channel uh first first no no no no no
that was the Milwaukee oh yeah that was not the Milwonkey yeah yeah it was the Milwaukee where
we couldn't cut straight well i'm getting there with that actually we get actually we cut this
Legrand trunking with the Milwonkey if you haven't seen that review check that out because that is uh
i think there's another good tool that that's especially growing on me as we as we start using
it more and more around the workshop yeah i would say it's one of those tools for the
flashier electrician you get out your Milwonkey or the the chops or effectively a handheld chops
saw check out that one we'll leave it in the link in description or the eye above our ahead
and this one here probably uh more your style i'm probably more the traditional electrician
but we'll find out in the next video but as always we'd love your feedback and you have
given us tons already about the force logic from are we going to milwonkey or Milwaukee Milwaukee
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