>> There was not a lot prosecutors involved.
It was Acosta, he made the decision.
I don't know why you keep sticking up for a guy who was so lenient on a child molester.
>> He was the US Attorney, he worked it all up.
>> No Dave, it's my turn.
>> That was Cenk on Cuomo Prime Time last night.
And I absolutely love how furious Cenk gets when someone interrupts him, cuz I know from
personal experience.
>> Cenk, it's my turn.
>> It was so good.
Stop stepping on my lines.
Anyway, so he was actually debating David Urban on whether or not Alexander Acosta,
who is of course Trump's current Labor Secretary.
Essentially let Jeffrey Epstein off with a very easy prosecution so remember-
>> What's the debate to be had?
>> I mean, there is no debate.
And when I found out that Cenk was gonna go on the show to talk about this, I'm like there
isn't gonna be someone on the other side.
Who's gonna make excuses for Acost who went behind the victim's back as the prosecutor
and pursued a non-prosecution plea deal with the defense attorney for Jeffrey Epstein?
Who the hell would be stupid enough or terrible enough to go on national television and defend
that kind of behavior?
And here you have it, his name is David Urban.
Let's take a look.
>> Lots of AUSAs involved in this.
Lots of folks involved in this.
The Secretary didn't make the decision on this alone.
He didn't- >> He did cut the deal.
He's the name on the deal.
>> Chris, Chris, he didn't overturn anybody.
He went according with all the people in his office.
All the career prosecutors, the FBI.
What he got was a deal that no one else was getting at the time.
So I think, look, it's a terrible thing.
I'm glad that the Southern District of New York is prosecuting this guy who's, by all
accounts, a really bad individual.
And in retrospect, look, maybe the state could have done something differently.
The evidence must not have been there at the time.
Because I promise you, Chris, that the good men and women, the FBI, the US Attorney's
Office back then, in the Southern District of Miami, were doing their jobs.
They were trying their best.
Do you think anybody there wanted to let this creep go?
>> So he's arguing there wasn't enough evidence, right?
Which Cenk is going to debunk that in just a second.
But I do wanna focus on how he's trying to muddy the waters by pretending as if there
were all these other prosecutors involved who worked on this.
No, no, no, Alex Acosta, was the lead prosecutor who pursued a non-prosecution plea deal, behind
the victims' backs.
In fact, a judge ruled that that action was illegal.
I mean, I don't know what the consequences were for that.
It appears that certain people are above the law.
But that was wrong.
It's abundantly clear that was wrong.
And there was an abundance of evidence, which we'll get to in just a second.
>> Yeah, not only the extra evidence, but also it was easy on him and included this
inane thing where any future co-conspirators that are found are also included under it.
So we just don't have the evidence, but if we ever do, I wanna make sure that we can't
do anything about it because those people gonna be grandfathered into this amazing deal.
Where this guy goes to jail for eight hours each night, he gets to leave and do whatever
he wants, which is another way of saying you got a free apartment.
>> Right.
>> It was sweet that he only had to go at night.
I mean that's basically my life right now.
Except I pay rent.
>> A 13 months sentence where 6 out of 7 days he is able to live for, I believe, 16 hours
a day.
I mean.
>> At a very least, if ti's a 13 month sentence and you're only there eight hours a day, they
should only be counting it during the hours you're there.
>> Now, Jake is about to detail some of the evidence in this next clip.
>> Acosta comes out today and says it was a different time.
What was it?
1908?
It was 2008.
That's not that long ago.
What in 2008?
Did you let child molesters get away?
Was that the time that we were living in?
No, that is the worst excuse I've ever heard.
Then he blames it on state prosecutors.
State prosecutors came out today and said absolute lie, not remotely true.
And we're not talking about the FBI here.
Dave, I know you Republicans hate the FBI and you hate the rules
>> Cenk, I don't hate the FBI >> Okay.
>> Don't mischaracterize everything I say.
>> So hold on, hold on.
So then the FBI did their job and they got amazing evidence, about 30 women and 53 page
indictment.
And then what does Acosta to do?
He lets him off the hook.
He let him get out of jail for six out of the seven days, why?
Cuz he's rich, and he's connected.
And he's represented by Kirkland and Ellis law firm, that hey, look at that Acosta used
to work for.
So a bunch of rich people get together and go, hey, should we let our buddy off?
Well, you guys are representing him.
So okay, so fine.
Let's let him off.
>> I'm shocked that Cenk didn't get black bagged and pulled off the stage as he's revealing
that.
His window just gets pushed off the screen.
>> No, look, to Cuomo's credit, he continues having Cenk on, which I think is important
because it's not often you see- >> Yes.
>> A progressive on any cable news show.
But more importantly, Cuomo does seem to care about what the facts of the story are.
>> Yeah, he's not one of the worst people on these networks.
>> No he's not.
>> The higher ups could push his window off the screen, that's all I'm saying.
>> So there's the evidence right, so Cenk referenced it.
There were 30 women, 30 victims who Acosta essentially, again, went behind their backs,
didn't tell them, and pursued this non-prosecution plea deal with Epstein.
And then there's the 53-page indictment.
There was evidence, there was a lot of evidence.
It was detailed by the Miami New Times, I believe it was, and it's complete BS that
there wasn't enough evidence.
If that's not enough for you, just take a look at how the response that we're about
to see from the individual that Cenk is debating.
>> What I'm not getting from you in response to Cenk is what made the deal okay when the
witnesses were available then and they weren't even told about the deal?
>> Chris, listen, I can't litigate each piece and parcel to that thing, okay?
I'm not gonna say- >> Then what doesn't make sense?
>> Well, no, Chris, I can't give you an answer on that part.
>> But you're saying it doesn't make sense, what doesn't make sense?
>> No, I'm not saying it doesn't make sense, I'm just saying I can't-
>> You just said, it doesn't make sense, what he's saying.
>> No, I'm saying Cenk, what he's saying about it's this giant collusion between, I worked
at this law firm, worked at this law firm, wink, nod, wink, we're gonna let this really
bad guy go.
It doesn't meet this test, it doesn't pass the straight face test.
>> Well, Acosta says-
>> That's what happened.
>> Acosta says that the pressure from the defense counsel-
>> But that's a fact.
>> It's not a fact, Cenk.
>> All right, so David Urban has no response.
>> It was not his finest hour.
>> No response, why?
But what are you doing?
Why does he feel the need to defend Alex Acosta in this case?
Cenk is absolutely right, we're dealing with a child molester.
And he decides to go on national television to defend the prosecutor who got him off easy.
>> By the way, I know, look, I don't do booking for a big show like that or whatever.
But David Urban said, do you really think they would let someone like that go?
>> Yes.
>> This is a grown man, who I don't know what his job day to day is, but he's brought on
to comment on politics.
Who's surprised to find out that powerful people help each other.
If you can pass that bar, you don't get to be on TV, like on cable news commenting.
>> Totally agree.
>> Now the unfortunate thing is as Cuomo had some great questions there, he's letting Cenk
on, that's all good.
Is Cuomo going to bring that guy back on?
>> Maybe, probably, I don't- >> Probably.
>> I don't know for sure.
>> That's frustrating.
>> But look, this has been an issue at CNN for a very long time.
At first, they did not have a progressive to counter the nonsense coming from, let's
say, Trump surrogates.
Remember, Scottie Nell Hughes, one of the dumbest women-
>> My god.
>> I've ever seen in my entire life was on CNN regularly.
>> Constantly.
>> And she made no sense.
She would lie, she would get facts wrong on a regular basis and they still had her on
constantly.
>> Yeah.
>> So this is, believe it or not, a little bit of improvement because at least you had
the other side countering the misinformation.
>> Yes, progress.