- This was $315,000?
Are you kidding me?
- Nothing makes sense!
- No one wins here!
- Yeah, I told you.
You're gonna walk away being like, "That was terrible."
- Car prices are still absolutely out of hand,
and today we're gonna see how good we are
at guessing actual prices of actual cars for sale
at actual dealerships.
I'm joined by car view experts Thomas
and James from Throttle House.
Also, Jeremiah's here for some reason.
I'm James, and this is
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- I'm pretty sure Max has put together a list
of actual cars, actually for sale at dealerships,
and each time is gonna collectively guess the price.
We're doing "Price is Right" rules,
which means if you go over by a dollar, you're out.
- I've never played this game before.
I don't know "Price is Right" very well.
And did you say you've never won?
- I've never won.
- I have also never won. Have you won?
- Oh yeah, I've won every time.
- Yes!
- We're on the same team because our name is the same.
One mind, one heart.
- So between the two of you, you make one brain?
- Correct.
- That's one winner brain. - Next, first car.
- [Max] Our first car is a Toyota GR86 Premium
being sold by a dealer in Arlington, Virginia.
This is a brand new car.
It's steel gray, with a manual transmission,
and the MSRP is supposed to be $32,199.
- I bet it's 64 grand.
- You're crap at this game.
- I got a feeling, I got a hunch.
- I'm gonna trust you on the first one.
- Okay. - The first one.
- I think it's 20k more.
- 20k more? - Yeah.
- Really? - Yeah.
- What's the weather like there?
- Yeah, it's okay.
I think the weather in Virginia is probably like...
It's seasonal.
- You know what? 20k more.
- Yeah. - Yeah.
- Okay, we're gonna go 52,199.
- We'll go a dollar.
- That wasn't what we discussed.
(all laugh)
- I'm a wild card James, try and keep up.
- Hat's coming off.
- The James' are already falling out.
- [Max] So final answer?
- One dollar. (all laugh)
- [Max] The actual list prize for the GR86 was
$42, 199. - We win!
- Dammit.
- See? You need to stick with me.
- [James] Wait, did we actually win?
- [Jeremiah] Yeah, they won.
- You bust? - We busted.
- We were 10k over.
- Seems like you should put that hat back on.
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99. 100.
101. 102. - [Bicep] Yeah!
- Be quiet, biceps. I'm counting.
Four? Oh, crap.
(calm music)
- [Max] All right, our next vehicle is
a 2022 Ford Maverick XLT in Orange County, California.
This is all wheel drive, it's ecoboost,
and it's painted hot pepper red metallic.
The MSRP should be $29,310.
- Everyone wants this vehicle for some reason.
- I like the idea of it.
- It's the modern day you. - Is it?
- To you. Yeah, you. - What are you saying?
- You.
I think 41. - 41?
- American dollars? - Yeah.
- Okay. Yeah.
- $40,999.
- Okay, yeah.
- I think they're going for more.
- Really?
- Yeah, I do. I honestly- - Are you feeling brave?
- I think they're going for more.
- Okay.
- But you know what?
I already got off to a little rocky start
with a bad guess, so...
- You've never been behind.
- You guys did $40,999. - Yeah.
- We're doing $41,000.
We're going a dollar over.
- Pretty scumbaggy.
- I like it. (all laugh)
- Are you sure you weren't raised in a dealership?
- All right. You ready?
- [Max] All right, so the actual list price is
$48,305.
- Oh!
Oh! - Really?
- [James] That's a lot of money.
- That's a lot of money.
- So this is a Ford
and apparently, the consumer is not the only person
who's getting sick of these crimes.
Auto manufacturers are starting to fight back.
So Ford, GM, Kia, Hyundai
and Genesis have all threatened to stop sending cars
to dealerships if they don't stop taking advantage
of the American people.
- Amen. - Amen. There you go.
- And Canadians.
- [Max] This is a 2021 Toyota RAV4 Prime.
- This is the second fastest Toyota you can buy.
- That's not hyperbole, by the way.
- Maybe second quickest.
- Second quickest. - Sorry.
- [Max] MSRP should be $49,000.
- Like, the problem is is that like,
I wanna do a big number over 49,
but then when I say a big number in my head over 49,
it's like the price of a C-class Mercedes or something.
You're going way up there really quick,
so it doesn't make any sense.
- Every time we play this game,
we're like, bummed for the rest of the day
because we finally have cool jobs
and we still can't afford cars.
- Oh dude, I'm going in to the 80s, I think.
- No! No!
- That's a hundred thousand dollar car.
- There's no way anyone would buy that for $80,000.
- I'm telling you right now-
- I think you should guess in the 80s.
- Shut up, James. 72.
I'll meet you at 74 nine. - Okay, 74 nine.
- All right, yeah.
- 74 nine? 74,901.
(all laugh)
- You goddamn (beep).
- It's just a taste of your own medicine, mate.
- [Max] The actual list price was $96,442.
- I told you, that's a hundred thousand dollar car.
- [Thomas] No it wasn't $100,000.
- Nothing makes sense!
- Yeah, we technically all lose.
- Yeah, no one wins here.
- I told you, you're gonna walk away being like,
"That was terrible."
- Seriously, do not ever buy that car
for a hundred thousand dollars.
- It's still a RAV4.
- That one gave me heart burn, dude.
- [Max] Our next vehicle is a Ford Bronco, Big Band Edition.
- $250,000. (men laugh)
- [Max] Now this is not the highest trim option.
It's got the 2.3 liter eco-boost.
It's got four doors and it's for sale in Buda, Texas.
MSRP, $42,000.
- We just talked about a hundred thousand dollar RAV4.
- Nothing is off the table anymore.
- Nothing is off the table.
- I tell you, at least 20,000.
- But I already knew that, 'cause...
- Yeah, one mind. - For your benefit.
- Hive mind.
We can communicate with our minds.
$68,000.
- Oh, all I hear is a bunch of pansies,
because I'm going sky high now.
I've learned my lesson. - You think so?
- I've learned my lesson. These are sought after.
Chip shortage, difficult to get. The whole thing.
85. - 85 grand?
- Okay, all right. Let's do 85.
Yeah, I'm with you man. - Okay.
- Let's go. 85.
We're not doing this dollar over crap.
- [Max] The actual price was $86,718.
(men groan and laugh)
- Oh man!
- We didn't have to dollar over you.
- [Max] All right, next up is a Mercedes Benz EQS 584 MATIC.
- What's an EQS? - It's a...
- Can we swear on this show? - Yeah.
- It is a (beep) car.
- I've never seen this car.
- It's the EV. - It's the EV S Class.
- Yeah.
- But the S doesn't stand for Sonder anymore,
it stands for poop.
- [Max] So the MSRP, $130,000.
- Oh, okay. - Not worth 50.
- Well okay, long story short,
it's supposed to be an S-class EV,
and it ended up failing at that mission.
It's difficult to drive, difficult to control.
It's got rear wheel steering that has a mind of its own.
The interior is not nearly spacious enough.
The back seat is like, not nearly soft enough
or comfortable enough.
There isn't enough head room or leg room or anything.
Just get a normal S-class.
- However, not many people know this.
And therefore, it is highly desirable.
- It tends to play in this game,
the more luxury the car,
the less the percentage of mark up.
So like, this isn't gonna be double, right?
I don't know, you think maybe 50k over? Like, 180?
- Yeah, I was thinking 180. Like, 180 something for sure.
- Okay, let's go 183. - 183.
- I kind of wanna take this sad energy
and turn it spiteful and do the one dollar over.
- Yeah, 183 one.
- What a bunch of buttholes. - I hate you guys, seriously.
- What a bunch of just buttholes.
- Absolute buttholes.
- It's not me, it's the dealerships,
it's bad energy.
- [Max] The actual price, $198,000.
- [All] Ooh!
- (indistinct)
- See how happy they are? I can't believe that.
- It's ridiculous. - That's ridiculous.
- [Max] For our next car,
isn't being sold in the United States of America.
Actually, Brandford, Canada.
- Okay, here we go. - Interesting.
- [Max] This is a 2019 Corvette Stingray.
It is pre-owned with 15,000 kilometers.
It's black with red calipers,
and it has an active performance exhaust.
MSRP when new would have been about
$73,000 Canadian dollars.
- How many American dollars is 74,000?
- It's like, 1.3, so it would be like,
high 50s, low 60s.
- You know exchange rate changes daily.
- Oh shut up. (tense music)
Nobody asked you.
(all laugh) Nobody asked you.
I don't remember asking you.
- James, James. Listen to James.
- Guys, get on the same James brain level, okay?
You should already know-
- I'm talking to James!
- This is my alter-ego. This is angry James.
I'm a happy guy. (all laugh)
- Are we guessing in American or Canadian?
- Canadian! God, yes, Canadian!
- [Jeremiah] Okay.
- Just apply it as a ratio. Just do percentages.
- Okay.
- I mean, James, let's just do percentages.
- 73, I bet it's $90,000.
- Yeah, go on then.
- You think that? I don't know.
- No, it's more than that.
- You think it's more?
- Unfortunately. Under a hundred though.
- Under a hundred? - Yeah.
- Okay.
96? - Yeah.
- Yep. - Okay, 96.
- Whoever wins this game gets a million dollars.
- Yeah, that's one RAV4 Prime.
- Wait, what?
- [Max] Actual price,
$76,988 Canadian dollars.
- So we went too high. - Thank God.
- It's a used T7 Stingray.
- [Max] Our next car is not normally sold at dealerships,
but a dealership in Lincoln, Nebraska
got hold of this Rivian R1T Launch Edition
with 164 miles on it.
MSRP would have been $80,000.
- I bet 120 grand.
- Unfortunately, you're very wrong.
- Really?
- These are incredibly desired.
No one owns them other than an employee.
I would go 189,999.
- I would say it's double. I would say it's 160k.
I don't think it's that much.
- Aah...
Listen, I made the call last time and it didn't pay off,
so I'm gonna leave this to you.
I would say that it's probably more than you think,
because as James number two said.
- No.
- That's right, you're James number two.
- We are James. - We are a collective James.
- Okay, as one half of the James said,
these are highly desired,
and I don't think any of them
have actually been delivered to real owners yet,
because every time we've ever run into one,
it's like "Oh yeah, no, I work for Rivian."
- Oh man, that's good.
- Why is that Rivian up there? What's it doing there?
- I don't know.
- It's like an employee drove it, "Oh, I didn't make it,"
and they left it at the dealership.
- 155,00.
- [Max] The actual price was (tense music)
149 nine.
(Jeremiah grunts)
- [Max] This is a Jeep Wrangler Rubicon 392.
This has 470 horsepower.
It's being sold in Saco, Maine,
with an MSRP of $77,590.
- $110,000.
- 110? - Thousand dollars.
- That's a pretty good guess.
- I know, Jeremiah, that's why we made it.
- But I think it was a wrong guess.
- What? My guess?
- Yeah, I think it was wrong.
- [James] Why?
- I think it's more than that.
But I'd say at least 115, 110.
No, they said 110.
- So after all of that, your guess is our guess?
- Let's go 119. - 119.
- [Max] Actual price, $108,000.
- [James] Both over.
- [Max] Well our next car isn't from North America at all.
This is a GR Yaris, 2020, used,
from Letchworth, United Kingdom.
- That's where you're from, Letchworth.
- Yep.
The first place in the UK he names,
that's where I'm from.
- [Max] This has 10,000 miles on it
and it has the Circuit Pack,
which adds stiffer suspension, 18 inch wheels,
and torsen differentials.
MSRP, £33,000.
- So I've driven this car, lived with this car.
- Really?
- It's good, gets a lot of looks, very desired.
But England is not as crazy as North America
with used prices.
Unless this particular place is, you know,
playing silly buggers,
it's probably high 30s, low 40s.
- Is that in pounds?
- Yeah, yeah. High 30s, low 40s, pounds.
- £42,000.
- I'm going with the variable that is Max here,
and Max sometimes likes to throw in ones
that are exactly the MSRP - Oh my God.
when it comes to used stuff. - Oh my God, oh my God.
- Ooh.
- So I'm thinking...
And I'm trying to read his face over here.
- This is dirty. - Smiling a little bit.
- I'm getting a good vibe
that maybe we should say 33.
- Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh look, he's trying to hold his face straight.
- That's not fair. You guys have a history.
- Well, James is just...
- He has also been here.
Half of you have been here.
- He's influenced by this James.
- I work with Max a lot.
And I have no idea what's going on behind those cold eyes.
- MSRP. We're gonna guess MSRP.
- [Max] Yaris did not sell for MSRP.
It sold for £38,333.
- [James] I said high 30s.
- [Max] But we have one final car
that could break the tie.
- Oh, we got a tie! (men groan)
- The tie breaker, 3-3.
- Oh my God, it's like Redbull Mercedes, dude.
- [Max] Our last vehicle is a Hummer EV Edition One.
Being sold in Oklahoma.
It's all white, has three motors for a thousand horsepower,
an MSRP, $108,000.
- This is the one that has a two over it.
This is a crazy expensive car.
- No, I agree. Yeah.
- I would imagine, I would say double.
I would maybe even say, maybe 125% mark up.
(tense music) - Oh my God.
Have you lost your mind, man?
- What do you wanna say? 195?
- Yep. - Okay.
- Yep. - 195,000.
- Oh, I feel sick.
- I'd like to think that the people in Oklahoma
are nice enough not to charge that much.
- Yeah, right. (all laugh)
- Well the people from Oklahoma are OK, right?
(tense music)
- [Thomas] Oh my God!
- Even James hated that. (all laugh)
- What do you think, 175?
- I think that's maybe still too high.
Here's the thing, if they've gone over,
why not just go... - A dollar.
- Yeah, go a dollar.
- We're going a dollar.
- [Max] Well, this car was listed for a certain price,
but they took $30,000 off.
So the actual current price for this vehicle
$285,000.
- Holy (beep)! - What?
- Is that what you said? 285?
This was $315,000? Are you kidding me?
(all laugh) That's insane!
- [Thomas] It's so stupid!
- That's insane.
- Did we win? - Yeah, we won.
- Hell yeah!
Suck our butts. Suck it.
James'.
- Okay, this is for sale at Seth Wadley Dealership.
This is a call to the Oklahoma police department.
(all laugh)
- We have a criminal, we know his name,
we know where he is on a Monday through Friday basis.
- Go arrest him. - Get him in cuffs.
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