what's in this box Gordon hey this is essentially kind of replacement for the
most popular selling gaming laptop on Amazon I just reviewed this iteration of
an Acer predator Helios 300 $1100 great laptop for the money this replaces it
difference I don't want to get my night bulb blew it up so I'm just gonna use
this right yeah that's what you do with old video boxes the big difference is RT
x RT X this is our second party X laptop we've gotten in a PC world yes this is
the Acer predator frightened 500 so I don't screw that up this is a lab
machine which means somebody else has probably all reviewed this machine set
it back to a sir they cleaned up the Cheetos send it back out thus the seal
is broken consumers would not get the same thing but essentially what you're
gonna get versus I why it's probably also loaded up with Windows and well
it'll have Windows they usually will you know windows will be reset typically
sometimes it won't be fully reset what else get with this you get your manual
get another quick guide you get the cool they're not premium service no stickers
look at that no stickers but probably a power brick in here should be the same
one I imagine looks exactly the same to me
oddly no power cable no actually that's decently smaller so on the Left we have
the Acer predator Triton 500 on the right the Acer helios predator helios
and how many watts is that I'm gonna guess it's probably 230 if I can see it
so tiny I can't read it but good lord the writing is so tiny in this thing
yeah so 230 it's decently smaller so smaller power brick probably means a
laptop smaller yeah we've got a nice little black case there predator hmm
very nice look at this this I got the blue bring up like blue it's very
compact triton 500 1080p 144 hertz panel let's turn it on
8th gen i-76 core you can turn out that noise if you don't like it 8750 8 16
gigs of ram 512 gig SSD nvme mdm2 of course and an RT X 2060 it's not really
called the max P but everybody calls it max P means the full performance 2060
part turbo button yeah and I guess it's a turbo button let's press it oh yeah
look at that so they're telling me hey you can't turbo this thing you got no
power so I'm guessing you plug it in you get two turbo looks like it's a single
color I don't know if the keyboard is perky lighting I don't think so
at least brighter on these caps yeah at least brighter here but so 144 1080p
high refresh I do know there is no g-sync it is Optimus so
you get realistic battery life I asked you don't know the size of the battery
so let's find out let's find out I'm very interested
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so essentially you're telling me that
this is pretty close to that one in terms of specs other than the Archie
x-ray as far as hardware Oh Ashley hmm you know I'm probably wrong I think
people would want to say this is close to the Helios Helios is fairly compact
but it's a big it's it's five pounds ten ounces this is about four pounds four
and a half pounds let's see what it looks like the battery is 82 watt hours
the Helios is battery is 45 watt hours so you're getting a lot smaller battery
in Helios even though it's thicker well thicker so I I gotta say this is
probably a spiritual the main competitor to this is gonna be probably Emma sized
yes 65 which is a full flat four pound laptop very nice this is a little
heavier about 10 ounces heavier but look you're getting gigabit you're getting
USB three one God knows if that's genuine or ten to ten gig five gig well
fully HDMI probably plugged right into the geforce card you get your power you
get your audio ports check the other side out I do like it you're getting
mini DisplayPort as well for g-sync support it's a little hard to get decent
out of laptops out of it because Jason doesn't work over HDMI Wow right so you
sort of need DisplayPort then you got to use Thunderbolt and yeah this is
actually a Thunderbolt 3 port - yeah and then we get to more Taipei's you know
five gig 10 gig God knows who what wait so would you consider the this a thin in
light I mean it's pretty damn close it's pretty I mean look at this I mean I was
expecting it tight that big I really expected this for some reason cuz I do
my I didn't look at it early I thought well maybe this is a replacement for
this but this is a competitor to an MS GEOSS a massage yes 65 if you wanna
count on the XPS 15 in here I would an XPS 15 is not primarily a gaming laptop
this does give you a full tilt 2060 part though I can tell you the the bottom the
top the a and deal it I think they call it they are
aluminum as an aluminum body what do you think about cooling on on the Helios
versus the predator you know that's right I oh I'll have to open it up I
want to see if they change the heat pipes in this one of the issues people
have complained about with the Helios is overheating I didn't have any
overheating but it is a little weird because they put all the fans on one
side and then you get your GPU CPU so no matter what CPU always has to feed
through the heat pipe going over the GPU it's not great usually what you get is a
fan on both sides so at least as the CPU kink or get direct cooling if you're not
you know doing workload I don't know what how this is configured we would
have to open it up I will say it's probably not as easy to get into as far
as doors this one you just what I love is thicker
this one's thicker I actually open this up I put in an SSD in here through a 2.5
inch SSD and then you get your memory here getting the m2 is bare down here
you have to pull the whole bottom off this one you probably pull the whole
bottom off but I keep comparing it to the Helios because I really thought they
would compare because this sucker $1100 all day came out at $1,300 all day it's
$1,100 with a gtx 1060 not max-q full performance 250 gig SSD this one $1,800
and I really thought wow there's a big price markup for the 2060 but you're
getting double the size of the SSD and a very portable laptop with an 82 watt
hour battery this really is a competitor to the GS 65 the aro 15 X and I think
they drop the exit arrow 15 this is actually a very good competitor to the
aro 15 not really the XPS 15 because the XPS 15 doesn't have the graphics cojones
to run with these laptops this is a gaming laptop that you could actually
use every day carry it around here those four and half pounds that's not fast
four and a half pounds is not bad that's I just want to see it here but yeah
little over four yeah for three quarters for four pounds 11 ounces but
and then your smaller power break this is really a gaming laptop that you can
carry with you so for eighteen hundred dollars forty dollars it's not just our
TX though you're getting a smaller laptop you're getting this is you feel
it feel at the bottom it's plastic the top has some aluminum in it it's just
not the same build quality I guess or looked I mean even the look of this
looks like it's a retro gaming laptop yeah this is this about embezzles much
more sophisticated and you're getting 144 you're getting 1080p this is gonna
be a nice let the $1,800 is not bad I don't have to I'm gonna be surprised on
the thermals on this yeah so we'll have to see because we know that they're
almost make a huge difference in all these laptops we'll be testing it to see
how it does I but you know I really thought we were gonna see well thousand
bucks verses eighteen hundred dollars for RTX but no it's a different thing
because you're you're paying for that you're paying for the size smaller
laptops dinner laptops lighter laptops costs more miniatures it miniaturization
cost more money so well that you want to load up a couple benchmarks for a quick
and we'll see just just some quick performance tests we're in a couple
cooked chests and we'll compare the two Gordon we're back and we have a
clarification about the power supply yeah see down I got my magnifying glass
I read the writing on it it's actually a 180 watt power supply this is of course
is the 180 watt power supply that came with the Helios this is the one that
comes with the Triton you can see there's a big difference here huge
difference in thickness maybe a little bit lighter not that much right but when
we ran some benchmarks and yeah what's what's the takeaway that we're seeing so
far so the takeaway is this is a 2016 not max Q so full power max P is like
people like to call it 2060 card and compared to the 2010 60 in the Acer
predator Helios 300 it's about 35% faster in graphics in 3d mark time spy
it basically tracks for the most part on today's games at about the same level
and a gtx 1070 an overclock 10 somebody can
get a little faster but generally it'll stand right there with a gtx 1070 that
I've seen in much larger lab a full sit temps of the full 1070 not max-q so
we're talking full performance okay and that's not bad so 2060 basically same
performance for 1800 books as a 1070 1800 and of course Port Royal people
also want to know because this is a rate racing benchmark 3dmark you can see
about 2,900 here I will say a 2080 max-q and the GS 75 the MSI that was about
4,000 okay so it's up there so 4100 2900 you know and I will say
this this score in Port Royal compared to some desktop scores have been
reported by PC gamer about 35% slower than a desktop tend towards our 25
percent slower than a desktop 2060 so you definitely give up some performance
from the clock fall off but it's about 30% 35% slower than a 20 80 max Q so
we'll have to see how the whole rate racing landscape shakes out if
performance gets better for one or would you can really run in games at what
resolution when they get to this level of graphics card but so any first
indication about how the fans are sound and if there's a any thermals that
you're noticing I overall it's pretty quiet it's not loud
I haven't even run it in turbo mode which I'm gonna guess kicks in the
overclocking we can do that now you can see turbo mode is on and it basically
forces fans full-speed probably all the time not you bet and that's about as
loud as it's gonna get I think not a great sound you don't want to play like
that all the time but generally I think it's well behaved I've seen that in
other thin like laptops that touring based GPUs are not not like these hot
monsters people thought they might be so overall it's a really nice laptop this
is a solid competitor and it's looking like it a solid competitor to
yes 65 which is definitely lighter 10 ounces lighter and this is very
comparable to say a gigabyte arrow 15 which is about the same weight about the
same thickness a lot of features are the same 1080p 144 you get your camera on
top and you know full-on rate trace and six core Core i7 in here and I really do
think there is something to be said about the the new branding to you know
the the predator is a little more subtle you got the blue instead of the red like
on the guy over here yeah so this is this is the whole red thing yeah you
know I mean it this is obviously a different class at $1000 but you know
you're still this isn't bad the keyboard is not perky lining fo oh
is it summer okay it's multi zone I think it's a single zone lighting which
I'm okay with because when I'm booted on I saw like a little kind of wipe across
wipe it'll wipe across but it's a single color I believe
yeah single color yeah so you know okay not a deal-breaker alright so but you're
gonna do the full full breakdown of testing and yeah we'll do a full
breakdown testing we're gonna open it up I want to see what it looks like an
inside one weakness of some of these really thin laptops is they make it
impossible to get to the memory they make it impossible to get to the m-dot
two drives so I'm hoping I'm hoping that when Acer made this they put the MDOT
two drives and the sodium's or Sudan's the bottom side so you can get to it but
we're gonna find out when we crack it open
all right cool thanks word