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our whims take us. Sometimes as you make your way through the winding courtyards of comics
and history you'll stumble across something something that may make you ask a question.
Sometimes it seems simple bordering on silly and you're worried that people will laugh for even
asking the question. Well you know what not on this channel! Questions like how/why are there two
Enchantresses we're taking it way back to basics today. Everybody starts somewhere and sometimes
these questions come up. I myself have wondered about this for quite some time because there
are two. Marvel comics and DC comics both have a female character called the enchantress and they
debuted within two years of each other. Now this sounded like lawsuit city both have sued for less
or at least sent cease and desists or made little rumblings; so why are both of these two characters
still floating around unaccosted or seemingly so? It was keeping me up at night this important
conundrum. So if you've ever wondered then stay tuned because we're going to take a look at all of
this and present a hypothetical theory at the time of this recording. Speaking of recording times you
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well enchantresses the first enchantress to arrive on the scene was marvel's this in the form of
Amora who debuted in journey into mystery 103 in 1964. she was created by Stan Lee and Jack Kirby.
Amora or the Enchantress is placed firmly within the Thor mythos she is an antagonist and a Femme
Fatale type. Her first appearance is in 1960s marvel so you can guess what she has to do she
has to throw herself at Thor this is by command; it's manipulation by Loki. They're both kind of
villainous but her contribution to this issue is largely trying to get Thor away from Jane.
Odin doesn't want Thor with Jane anymore and Loki decides that yes this is the best way to do it.
Although based on how thirsty Jane was for Loki in his first appearance I feel like Loki had just
gone down and done it himself. Loki a lovely name and he seems so dashing and romantic. Amora throws
herself into this and they set up many dynamics that would stick around. Ah my beautiful one
what a team we would make if only... do not say it Loki we are too much alike we could never
trust each other. The Executioner also debuts this issue and the two begin their acquaintance.
The Enchantress would become a key part of Thor lore and figure in adventures beyond his own,
for example very quickly being exiled and sent to earth where she would team up with baron zemo
on his masters of evil yes masters of evil that was it. But her reputation would build over time.
What about DC's Enchantress this is June Moone? She debuted in Strange Adventures
in 1966. She was created by Bob Haney and Howard Purcell. Her first outing was a bit different in
that she was given a nine page lead story in the issue. Strange Adventures at the time was
DC comics's sci-fi mag. Her teaser says meet the switcheroo withcheroo her story tries to set her
up independent of the overall DC universe but set her up as her own thing. So this issue is
very much her origin whereas Amora was placed in the world in a way that made it seem that she had
always been a part of it and then details were added on after. June is given a love interest,
powers, ties to the occult, a bit of a mission statement right out the gate; but she didn't
really take off. The end of this story promises she'll be back but she then proceeds to appear
only two more times in Strange Adventures she didn't seem to leave much of an impression and
unlike Amora whose presence would grow would come to feel like a core part of the marvel
universe largely because that was how she had been introduced, so she grew along those lines,
June would change. She wasn't utilised at all during the 70s except in reprints and she was
later drawn into the overall dc lore canonically through the Supergirl comics or rather Supergirl's
stories in Superman Family. She would feature in two of her stories in issues 204 and 205 published
in 1980 and 1981 respectively. This is from the time that Supergirl was running in that giant
let's put all of Superman's supports together in one book. Get all of Clark's people together put
them in one spot. June would gain some traction during her stint on the revitalised version of
the Suicide Squad under John Ostrander in the late 80s, but she was on a very different path
than Amora. Suicide Squad seems to be where she has settled at the time of this recording,
her look with change over time as well whereas Amora would remain pretty consistent. They're
both rocking that green though. Marvel would even introduce a second enchantress Sylvie
Lushton in 2009 during Dark Reign, so with all of this I was left with the burning question
but how? Look what happened with the Captain Marvel, Shazam, and anybody else who tried
to name their character Captain Marvel or even have Marvel in the name debacle. In this case
Marvel's version came first so I was like lawsuit where? Was it because June hadn't caught on? Had
people just missed that she existed? Did people feel that they were different enough in concept?
Because well they are Amora is an Asgardian with a love-hate relationship with Thor bent on causing
chaos. June Moone is a woman who finds another side of herself awakened and is granted the powers
of The Enchantress and can transform in between two forms this initially to fight evil spooky,
and later with her would become more of a split personality type deal. With The Enchantress side
having a more villainous bend. I have heard arguments from people, or rather assertions,
that the two look quite visually distinct and while they do look different that green through
line is pretty intense. However, from what I could glean for I could at last not find a concrete
statement I guess neither Enchantress is on the fore of people's minds. Despite what they're doing
with a sort of kind of version on that Loki Disney Plus show. She's on the fore of my mind though.
The reason appears to be something quite mundane and that lies in the fact that you can't copyright
trademark generic or commonly used terms, you can't just pick things that are used in everyday
phrasing or common parlance or things that people would identify as colloquialisms. Like years
ago when the fine brothers decided that they were going to try and trademark the word react
and it went very poorly. we're excited to announce react world which is a first of its kind program
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is something we would try to control we do not own the genre. Now Enchantress may not be used
as frequently, but it has a definition it's not a name but rather a concept with roots and old,
largely European, that wouldn't have been called that at the time lore, and many would argue you
could take it back far further. Enchantress means a beguiling woman who is a sorceress, good at
witchcraft. So these characters are both named after this concept this idea extends far beyond
them and they have not supplanted it. It may not roll off the tongue as easily as it once did but
it is still a common word it would be like if a character was named witch, and that that seems to
be it makes the most sense. I have a really hard time buying the oh they just didn't care argument
sure jan. Now if you have a concrete reason like a secret wizard magazine interview, or some kind of
recording from a con from a camcorder that you had in your trench coat well then please let me know,
because you know I want to hear about it that. However that was the answer I found to a question
that had plagued me for some time on and off. You know just a little it would pop up every now and
again, like huh that's kind of odd. Hopefully, this sated your curiosity if you had any and if
you want to know more about either Enchantress let me know about that too i'll dive head first
into that rabbit hole. Which is your favourite version of The Enchantress and why? Or both you
can also like both or neither you can do whatever you want. Did you know that there were two?
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