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Damon here from NLP gym and i'm here with Mark Andreas from boulder colorado
son of NLP legends Steve and Connirae Andreas will be teaching core
transformation starting tomorrow friday September's 16 and just arrived
yesterday and we've had some time to talk and how are you doing doing great
really like to be here and there we were playing around i guess it's a metaphor
work and it was really interesting because we started unpacking some of my
stuff which was a lot of fun always liked visiting with our connecting with
different NLP trainers and seeing what their knowledge is what they have to
offer and so we were talking a bit about metaphor and you want to explain what we
were doing
sure yeah so there's a lot to this process developed by Andrew T Austin but
basically in a nutshell it's all a process about discovering our current
metaphorical experience of a problem or stuck state and then using this to go to
to have some interesting insights into our experience and we definitely had
some interesting insights notice there was a lot of interpretation kind of
reminded me of like a carl jung kind of interpreting dreams and everything and
that's actually something we didn't talk too much about you have any can you say
anything about that
yeah yeah well it's a great question actually so once we elicit the
metaphorical experience whatever that may be
so it's maybe it's like I'm slamming my head against a brick wall it's like I'm
in the pit of despair or it's like I'm walking through quicksand whatever it
might be
we we elicit more of the metaphor than that so we listed the metaphorical
landscape what's the left right front back you know of the quicksand or the
wall or whatever it might be
there's a
really no interpretation but it sounds like it from the perspective of the
person in the experience because what I'm doing is literally just coming up
with idioms that match the metaphorical for landscape which means I don't have
to actually know what I'm talking about
I can just literally say things that match the metaphor and for your
experience is gonna be like oh my god that makes so much sense
how do you know all that stuff that's what I'm going to say it's like it
really seemed like you knew my experience and actually almost felt like
you were psychic and I I kind of understand now like people who are
trained to kind of come off as being psychic and you charge people for Palmer
anything like that if they you could have easily you could probably get a job
doing that
yeah I thought about that so yeah it's like yeah and somebody i worked with
recently I told him don't tell me anything about the situation will just
do this metaphorically and he has set a similar thing he's like he's like it's
like you're clairvoyant how do you know this stuff and I'm like well I didn't
tell him this but I don't actually know anything just literally reflecting back
details of the metaphor in a way that is very meaningful to the person and fits
their experience interesting so yeah so I was in the pit of despair and Mark
help me out wasn't quite like that but it was the only thing to that you
weren't really I guess telling me what to do you weren't necessarily trying to
change the metaphor it was more about what would felt like interpretation and
more about kind of giving me more information or possibilities
yes you didn't really give me a solution yeah yeah so it's all about discovering
where we start
so a lot of you know if I want to get a plane ticket to Chicago and I'm not
going to do a very good job of that if I don't know where I'm starting so it's
like the first step is no
where did where my starting a lot of people don't like where they're starting
but and some of us have a lot more steps than others to get where we wanted to go
depending on the goal and where we are in our life and that kind of thing but
so the metaphor process is all about discovering where my starting so then
there's the least the chance that i can get somewhere better somewhere that
meets my outcomes better and it was almost as if like just having a better
understanding of the situation and using metaphor to do that so it's kind of like
what it's not like it didn't feel so directed felt like I was more of a
creative way of approaching it which made it easier to make it to to gain the
insight it seemed to come a little bit easier and it seems like you've got all
the time do you need exact solutions that sometimes you just need to really
understand what you said where you are and that's gonna be economic just
knowing that kind of actually moving forward
yeah let's see how this week it was working yeah i'll share an example of
you know the one I was referring to the guy who felt like well you're
clairvoyant how do you know this kind of stuff he his metaphor was it was like he
was walking around in circles and no man's and that's kind of what it felt
like
and and I asked him which direction he goes counterclockwise and you just had
that immediate sense and it and then he's like yeah it's like actually like
I'm walking on this little concrete platform just going counterclockwise and
there's just dirt in all directions like nothing and then he said it's kind of
like there's this river that behind me but it just ends where I am and so then
I just worked some of the in terms of idioms that I reflected back they were
just the kind of thing like well it looks like you you don't know which way
to go and so you've been going in circles and it's been pretty
counterproductive and looks like maybe for a while you've been you were going
with the flow which might have been nice but you didn't have any control over
where you're going and I've washed up here and you have a foundation now you
have a concrete platform but and you can take steps of your own for the first
time but you don't know which way to to go and so you've just been going in
search
and he's like oh my god like how do you know what you guys are saying that I was
like oh man I know those places in my life that I feel the exact same yeah
it's so interesting about this is like so Universal like yeah metaphors you
just kind of like plug in your own stuff into it spell anything
yeah so so you'll notice in terms of what you're saying about the
interpretation is that there's actually no interpretation in what I was just
saying I was just literally saying things that matched his metaphor for you
but then his experiences like well that totally resonates you get me like how do
you know this but you're literally just matching the other person's metaphor and
leaving it up to them too so we're gonna go started out from there
yeah that's fascinating have to learn more about this it's really cool stuff I
need your teacher workshop on this well i'll probably get into teaching more
that I've done short presentations and we bring Indian to boulder every year to
do a full six day training on it so I'm gonna probably do some maybe I'll do one
for you i would be great be awesome I'm well if you're watching this and well
obviously if you're if you are you are watching this
haha better i would love to hear some feedback if you're interested in a
workshop like that let me know you can leave a comment down here
the cool thing about this metaphor is often you hear these little bit of many
metaphors and people's language all the time and often we just ignore that part
and we focus on all the rest of the content and that little metaphor
whatever it might be like it's two steps forward one step back for this little
heroes actually bold way more information and the rest of the entire
sentence and start listening for that no more
really this is a way of really understanding what what's all being
communicated opportunist those little snippets present yeah well I'm learning
a lot already and we haven't even started
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starting tomorrow and all weekend
it's going to be a lot I think me too yeah
Barry style
yeah I should probably
ok so there's going to be a temptation maybe look at the screen but when you do
look more direct and look at the web
ok he had actually telling your eyes and barely even see the screen anyway