>>> ON DECEMBER 2016, THE WORLD
WAS SHOCKED BY THE SUDDEN DEATHS OF CARRIE FISHER AND HER MOTHER,
DEBBIE REYNOLDS.
DEBBIE REYNOLDS. THEY DIED WITHIN 24 HOURS OF ONE
ANOTHER.
FOR TODD FISHER, THEY WERE PERSONAL LOSSES. THEY WERE
PERSONAL LOSSES. DEBBIE REYNOLDS WAS HIS MOM,
CARRIE FISHER HIS SISTER.
TOGETHER, THEY SHARED THE MEDIA SPOTLIGHT FOR ALMOST 60 YEARS.A
SPOTLIGHT FOR ALMOST 60 YEARS. TODD FISHER WAS BORN INTO
HOLLYWOOD ROYALTY.
HOLLYWOOD ROYALTY. THE SON OF AMERICAS SWEETHEART,
DEBBIE REYNOLDS AND EDDIE
FISHER.
HE GREW UP IN THE SPOTLIGHT, ALONGSIDE HIS SISTER CARRIE,
ALONGSIDE HIS SISTER CARRIE FISHER, WHO WOULD GO ON TO PLAY
PRINCESS LEIA IN THE "STAR WARS"
MOVIES.
MOVIES.
IN THE 1950s, YOUNG TODD WAS SWEPT UP IN ONE OF THE BIGGEST
SCANDALS, WHEN HIS FATHER HAD AN
AFFAIR WITH FILM ICON ELIZABETH
TAYLOR.
SHE BECAME THE FIRST OF TODDS
FOUR STEPMOMS.
TODAY, THE FAMILY IS JEWELRYULIE FISHER AND HIS NIECE, BILLYYULIE
FISHER AND HIS NIECE, BILLY LORD.
LORD.
IN 2016, TODD MOURNED THE LOSS OF HIS MOTHER AND SISTER, WHOS
OF HIS MOTHER AND SISTER, WHO DIED LESS THAN 24 HOURS APART.
>> THEY WERE NO FINER PEOPLE
THAN I EVER HAD KNOWN. MY MOTHER AND MY SISTER.
>> TODD FISHER HAS WRITTEN A
MEMOIR CALLED "MY GIRLS: A
LIFETIME WITH CARRIE AND
DEBBIE."
DEBBIE."
WELCOME.
>> THANK YOU.
>> WHEN CARRIE DIED, IT WAS A
SHOCK.
SHE WAS 60 YEARS OLD?
>> YEAH.
WE HAD BIG PLANS.
MY MOTHER WAS GETTING OLDER AND
SHE HAD A STROKE A YEAR EARLIER.
WE HAD THESE COMPLICATIONS. WE HAD TO FACE THE FACT THAT
WERE GOING TO LOSE OUR MOM.
THAT WAS HARD FOR BOTH OF US.
WE SAT IN MY BACKYARD AND CARRIE
CRIED.
CRIED.
WE CAME TO GRIPS WITH THE NOTION THAT WAS SOMETHING WE WERENOTION
THAT WAS SOMETHING WE WERE FACING.
FACING.
WE NEVER THOUGHT -- WE HAD MADE
PLANS.
CARRIE AND I SAID, WE NEED TO TRAVEL MORE TOGETHER. NEED TO
TRAVEL MORE TOGETHER. WE HAD ELABORATE PLANS.
YOU JUST DONT KNOW WHAT
TOMORROW COULD BRING.
AND THE BEAUTIFUL THING I WILL
SAY IS THAT WE DID GET A CHANCE,
BOTH MY MOTHER AND WITH MY
SISTER, THERE WERE NO UNSPOKEN
WORDS, UNSPOKEN THINGS, THINGS
THAT NEEDED TO BE SAID.
NO REGRETS.
NO REGRETS. THATS THE IMPORTANT THING.
I WOULD REALLY -- IT WOULD HAVE
BEEN WAY HARDER, HAD I NOT BEEN
ABLE TO SAY THE IMPORTANT THINGS
TO THEM.
TO THEM.
>> YOURE OPEN IN THE BOOK ABOUT HOW YOUR FAMILY HAD ACCEPTEDOUT
HOW YOUR FAMILY HAD ACCEPTED THAT DRUG USE WAS GOING TO BE A
PART OF CARRIES LIFE.
AND REHAB WAS ALMOST A JOKE.
SHE HAD BEEN SO MANY TIMES.
>> I HAD A FRONT ROW SEAT TO A
LOT OF REHABS.
AND CARRIE COULD HAVE TAUGHT THE
REHABS.
REHABS.
WE CAME TO ACCEPT THAT WAS JUST
PART OF WHAT IT WAS.
THE ISSUE BECAME HOW DO YOU
MANAGE THAT?
HOW DO WE KEEP HER WITH US? MY MOTHER, IN TERMS WOULD BE A
CLASSIC ENABLER.
CLASSIC ENABLER. BY THE MEDICAL DEFINITION.
WOULD YOU HAVE HAD HER AS LONG.
THERE WERE MANY PEOPLE THAT
PRACTICED TOUGH LOVE ON SIBLINGS
AND I THOUGHT WE HAD A GOOD RUN.
60 YEARS WAS A GOOD RUN.
>> GIVEN THE EXTENT OF THE DRUG
USE.
USE.
>> WELL, YEAH. >> I THOUGHT IT WAS INTERESTING,
WE ALL WENT WITH THE STORY THAT
YOUR MOM DIED OF A BREAKEN ENBRO
YOU MAKE THE POINT STRONGLY THAT
THATS NOT TRUE.
>> NO. I GOT ANNOYED WHEN PEOPLE KEPT
SAYING THAT.
SAYING THAT. THAT IS THE PAT RESPONSE.
OR SEEMS TO BE THE OBVIOUS
RESPONSE.
RESPONSE.
SINCE I WAS THIS CLOSE TO HER
WHEN SHE LEFT, AND WORDS WERE
SPOKEN LITERALLY MOMENTS BEFORE SHE LEFT, THERE WAS NO WAY TORE
SHE LEFT, THERE WAS NO WAY TO MISINTERPRET.
MISINTERPRET.
>> YOUR MOM?
>> YES.
I WAS SITTING WITH HER IN HER DEAD AND SHE HAD SOME WORDSER
DEAD AND SHE HAD SOME WORDS WHERE SHE REALLY WANTED TO BE
WITH CARRIE.
WITH CARRIE.
I THOUGHT SHE WAS SPEAKING
ETHEREALLY.
I DIDNT KNOW SHE MEANT IN THE NEXT 30 MINUTES. MEANT IN THE
NEXT 30 MINUTES. BUT MY MOTHER KNEW HOW TO MAKE
AN ENTRANCE AND AN EXIT.
THEY TAUGHT YOU THAT IN
HOLLYWOOD.
HOLLYWOOD.
I DID NOT KNOW I WAS WITNESSING ANYTHING OF THE SORT.WITNESSING
ANYTHING OF THE SORT. SHE WAS RECAPPING THINGS THAT
SHE WANTED ME TO HANDLE.
I HAD SAID, FOR EXAMPLE, SHE HAD
SAID, I DONT WANT A BIG, FANCY
MEMORIAL TOMB.
MEMORIAL TOMB. AND THEN, SHE SAID TO ME,
LITERALLY HOURS BEFORE SHE LEFT,
YOU KNOW, YOU BRING UP A GOOD
POINT.
POINT.
MAYBE IT WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE
SOMETHING.
NOW THAT CARRIE WAS GONE, SHE WAS THINKING THE FANS MIGHT WANT
TO COME AND SEE CARRIE.
I MIGHT WANT TO BE THERE WITH
HER.
HER.
SHE IS RECAPPING THESE THINGS. AND THE NEXT THING YOU KNOW,S.
AND THE NEXT THING YOU KNOW, SHES LITERALLY CLOSES HER EYES
AND SAYS, I WANT TO BE WITH
CARRIE.
CARRIE.
>> THAT WAS IT. THAT SHE WANTED TO BE WITH HER,
TO HAVE HER NOT BE ALONE AS IT
HAD BEEN FROM CARRIES BIRTH.
>> THATS RIGHT.
>> WE HAVE TO PICK IT UP THERE,
SQUEEZE IN A QUICK BREAK.
>>> COMING UP, WHAT IT WAS LIKE
>>> WERE BACK WITH TODD FISHER, WHO HAS WRITTEN A MEMOIR" "MY
GIRLS" ABOUT HIS MOTHER, DEBBIE
REYNOLDS AND SISTER, CARRIE
FISHER.
FISHER.
ON THE TOPIC OF "STAR WARS," HOW WE CAME TO KNOW HER AND LOVE HOW
WE CAME TO KNOW HER AND LOVE HER.
HER.
>> THE PRINCESS.
>> ONE OF THE THINGS SHE
REVEALED IN 2016, BEFORE SHE DIED, WHEN SHE WAS FILMING THAT
MOVIE, SHE WAS 19.
HARRISON FORD WAS 33, HE WAS
MARRIED AT THE TIME, SHE AND HE
HAD AN AFFAIR.
>> YES.
>> YES. >> IN YOUR MEMOIR, SHE REGRETTED
REVEALING THAT, WHY?
>> SHE DIDNT ANY ANYTHING OF
IT.
IT WAS PART OF HER DIARY.
THAT BOOK WAS BASED ON HER DIARY, SHE HAD WRITTEN DURING
THE FILM.
THE FILM.
MY MOTHER HAD SAVED THAT DIARY
FOR HER.
AND SHE WROTE THAT BOOK BASED ON
THAT.
SHE HAD NO IDEA IT WAS GOING TO
MAKE AS BIG OF A DEAL AS IT DID. SHE THOUGHT, THOSE ARE VICTORIAN
DAYS.
DAYS.
MY MOTHER WAS LIKE, YOU
SHOULDNT SAY THIS.
LEAVE THAT OUT.
AND SHES LIKE, NO ONE IS GOING
TO CARE ANYMORE.
ITS SO LONG AGO.
AND IT BECAME A BIT OF A
BACKLASH.
THERE WAS AN ELEMENT OF PEOPLE
LIKE, WHOA.
SHES MARRIED, ET CETERA.
MAYBE YOU DONT WANT TO ADMIT
THAT.
WHAT WAS INTERESTING, AT FIRST, CARRIE WAS LIKE, NO DIGBIG DEAL.
I WAS SITTING THERE WITH MY MOM
AND CARRIE SAID, MAYBE THAT
WASNT SUCH A SMART IDEA.
>> MAYBE YOU WERE RIGHT ABOUT
THAT ONE.
>> MOM KNOWS A FEW THINGS.
>> IS IT TRUE SHE THOUGHT "STAR
WARS" WAS THE END OF HER CAREER?
>> OH, YEAH. WE ARRIVED AT THE BACK LOT FOR A
SCREENING OF "STAR WARS" BEFORE
IT CAME OUT.
AND SHE WAS NERVOUSLY SMOKING
OUTSIDE.
WE WAITED UNTIL THE MOVIE HAD
BEGAN.
AND THERE WAS NO SEATS LEFT.
WE SAT IN THE FRONT ROW.
>> NO SEATS FOR PRINCESS LEIA AT
"STAR WARS."
>> SHES LOOKING UP AT THE
SCREEN LIKE THIS, OH, MY GOD. THIS COULD BE THE END OF MYD.
THIS COULD BE THE END OF MY
CAREER.
OH, WELL, ILL GO BACK TO SINGING., ILL GO BACK TO
SINGING.
SHE DIDNT FIGURE OUT WRITING
YET.
THAT SPACESHIP FLEW OVER, THE
BATTLE CRUISER IN THE BEGINNING
AND I SAID, THIS IS NO "B" MOVIE.SAID, THIS IS NO "B"
MOVIE.
AND THE REST IS HISTORY.
I MEAN, SHE IMMEDIATELY UNDERSTOOD. IMMEDIATELY
UNDERSTOOD. EVERY OTHER MOVIES, WHEN THEY
WERE MAKING "RETURN OF THE JEDI"
OR "EMPIRE," THOSE WERE GOING TO
BE HUGE.
>> I LOVED HER IN "WHEN HARRY MET SALLY."HER IN "WHEN HARRY
MET SALLY." CARRIE FISHER WAS AMAZING IN IT.
THE BOOK IS SO FULL OF THE
LITTLE VIGNETTES OF YOUR FAMILY
AND YOUR MOMS QUICK WIT.
THANK YOU FOR SHARING THIS WITH
US.
>> MY PLEASURE.
I GUESS EVERYBODY IS GOING TO
GET TO.
>> EVERYONE IN THE AUDIENCE IS
GOING HOME WITH A COPY OF "MY