- Odin, do you know that your device has parental controls?
- Uh, yeah.
- Do you know how to turn them off?
- Yes.
- Yes?!
- Yes.
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- I'm Katie, Jack's my son.
- I'm Salaja, this is my mom.
- [Interviewer] What devices do you have?
- My phone, and the TV at home.
- I have my Wii, my Gizmo, my Kindle,
my iPad, and my phone.
- I have a phone, my laptop.
- I have a computer.
- [Interviewer] How come she has a cell phone and you don't?
- In middle school, unless you have straight A's,
you don't get a cell phone.
- We're gonna talk about online privacy.
Do you know what that means?
- No idea.
(laughs) - There you go!
- [Interviewer] What's online privacy?
- Um, online privacy is...
I don't know how to explain it, except...
If you're just...
- It's protecting yourself from the,
from the internet,
and online people, things,
I don't know if I have a good explanation
of online privacy.
- There's a lot of information out there
that's really exciting to do,
but there's also information that's being taken from you,
when you use your phones, and I need you to be
sophisticated and savvy enough to know
that you're getting something
and you're giving something in return
to get that information.
- You know how I made you delete YouTube?
And I don't want you to play games like Fortnite?
- Yeah. - Shouldn't hear "yeah".
So the reason is,
because there's a lot of things on the internet
where you can communicate with other people,
we have no idea who those people are,
that you're talking to, right?
And sometimes adults don't have good intentions,
and they're trying to get information out of you.
- People might wanna show you inappropriate things,
who might wanna teach you inappropriate things.
- Like what? Like what?
- Things that your little brain couldn't even handle
or imagine. - Tell me now!
Tell me now!
- I'm trying to protect you from these things.
- Tell me now. - I don't wanna tell you.
- I mean, maybe some hard core porn (mumbles) to show you.
I mean whatever you do in your private time's your business,
but...
- [Interviewer] Vanessa, do you have any restrictions
with your phone?
- No, except that they track me.
- And there is a provision that if you erase anything,
if your memory has strange gaps, it's gonna be an assumption
that you're maybe looking at stuff
we don't want you to look at,
and there'll be consequences for that.
- Yeah.
Do you trust us to be responsible?
Like, not to do anything wrong?
- No!
- I think you guys should trust me,
not to go through my phone, though.
- Well, it's not about that we don't trust you,
it's that we don't trust other people out there.
- It's not that I don't trust you,
it's others.
So I have to protect you,
and I have to look through your phone
in order to protect you.
Or, okay, I could trust you, too--
- Yeah. - But I mean,
it kinda keeps me hip, too, if I look at a few things.
- I trust you as much as I should trust a thirteen-year-old.
You're supposed to make mistakes.
But I wanna kinda be there,
so that your mistakes aren't major.
- What social media apps do you have?
- Snapchat, Instagram, YouTube, and TikTok.
I turned off everything being private.
- You turned off everything being private?
So, everything's public?
Why would you do that?
- 'Cause I can tell the bad people from the good.
- I want your accounts to stay private, I want you to--
- This one isn't private.
- I would like for you to have your accounts private.
- Yeah, I know, I mean I don't care about
turning it on private.
- Well, then, why was it not on private?
- 'Cause I didn't care to-- (sighs)
- I'm gonna check it in a week, and make sure that
that stayed on private.
- [Interviewer] Does he have any social media accounts?
- Yes, but he doesn't actually use them.
- I have Twitter, and...
I do!
- You have Twitter? - I'll show you.
- Odin, do you know that your device has parental controls?
- Uh, yeah.
- Do you know how to turn them off?
- Yes. - Yes?!
- Here's Twitter.
- How often do you do this without my permission?
- Often.
- That's me and Tiffany.
- Are you guys in the bathroom?
- Yes, we are. - At school?
- Yes, we are. It was before class.
- So, can anybody online see that?
- Only the people that follow me.
- But you said you have everything public.
- Yeah, but not a lot of people go to my page.
- You don't know that. - I do know that.
It gives you notifications.
- I want your friends to know that your creepy dad
is on your social media, so they're gonna be more careful,
because you guys are also responsible
for what your friends say.
- That's great. - Hmph.
- Are you upset at me? - No, well, I feel like--
- You can be upset at me. - I feel like a few of
the things you're saying, it's not realistic.
Most of the people I know aren't gonna
change how they do things, just 'cause
a parent is concerned about it.
- What's the worst thing you have ever posted?
- I don't know! I don't post that much,
I can't think of anything I've ever regretted.
- Then, why do you have an account?
- Just for, like, to see other people.
- So you're just nosy? - (sigh) No!
- [Interviewer] Ask your daughter if she has a "finsta".
- Ask her if she has a what?
- [Interviewer] A "finsta".
- Do you have a "finsta"? - I do not.
- What's a... - A "finsta," it's like a,
like a fake Instagram kids don't want their parents to see,
keeping it a little more private from them.
- Would you do that to me?
You wouldn't do that, you would just talk to me, right?
Oh! Oh! (laughs)
- Now, what would happen to you guys if I found a "finsta"?
- They have a wine closet, and he has a key to that closet.
And he will take all of the electronics,
and he will put them in the closet, and he will lock it up.
- I am a horrible person.
- Why can't I post things to Instagram?
- Because even in the short time that you've had
an Instagram account, there've been
a couple of odd messages I've received
from people that I don't know. - Like what?
- Someone was like, "where are you?"
Or something.
That's not a question I want you to be answering.
- What would you do, if you were on your tablet,
and a stranger messaged you? - I'll delete it.
- What if they're like, "click here for $1 million"?
- I would still delete it. - Oh.
- If someone said, "Come with me,"
I'd say, "Shut the bleep up!"
- Well, that's good to know, I suppose.
- Do you flirt with strangers online?
- No.
- Has anybody flirted with you online?
- No.
- Just a random person that worked name and said,
"hey, what's your name?"
- Like, online, no. - Now, ooh!
- No, I-- (laughs)
- Have you ever received any, like, naked pictures?
Do your friends send those pictures?
- Hm-mm. I've heard people at school send stuff,
but my friends haven't sent any.
- What do you say to 'em when you find out
that they sent that stuff?
- I don't say anything about them, it's not my business.
It gets leaked, it gets leaked. It's your fault!
- You should tell them that!
That stuff can follow you, employers look at that stuff,
moms look at that stuff.
(laughs)
- If you had somebody take an image of you,
maybe in a little compromising situation,
and it spread,
what would you do?
- Probably...
I would...
- Would you come to me?
- Maybe?
- Do you think I wouldn't get it?
'Cause I get you.
- [Interviewer] Do you feel like
you're overprotective of him? - Yes.
I mean, and when you're older, there will be a time where
I'm going to have to let you kind of explore it all
for yourself, and it does concern me.
- Your dad and I always talk to you
about looking out for yourself,
because if we're not around to protect you,
you need to have some sort of sense of what's going on.
And online, there's no guarantee.
- I don't care if you're missing out,
when you're nineteen-year-olds and in college,
you can do whatever you want.
But when you're living in with us,
we have expectations,
to help you develop into the best person you can be.
- Okay, I agree with that. Tommy?
- Yeah. - What do you think?
- I don't know. I mean, you'd think
you'd have a little more trust in us, but--
- I'll be your parent now; I'll be your friend later.
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