FOR THE MAJORITY TO VOTE AGAINST
THE MINORITY.
>> SO LET’S MOVE TO THIS.
CERTAIN BRANDS HAVE STARTED TO
PULL THEIR ADVERTISING FROM
FACEBOOK IN AN ACTIVIST CAMPAIGN
TO FORCE THE SOCIAL NETWORK TO
COUNTER ACT HATE SPEECH ON ITS
PLATFORM.
THE STOP HATE FOR PROFIT
CAMPAIGN, WHICH STARTED JUST
LAST WEEK IS SPEARHEADED BY A
COALITION OF ORGANIZATIONS
INCLUDING THE NAACP, THE
ANTI-DEFAMATION LEAGUE, COMMON
SENSE AND SEVERAL OTHER CIVIL
RIGHTS GROUPS WHO SAY FACEBOOK
IS NOT DOING ENOUGH TO KEEP HATE
SPEECH OFF ITS NORMPLATFORMS.
AS A RESULT THEY’VE BEEN
TARGETING MAJOR ADVERTISERS TO
HELP SUPPORT THE MOVEMENT.
I’VE BEEN WONDERING, DEREK,
ABOUT THE ADVERTISERS FOR
FACEBOOK AND TWITTER AS THEY
PUSH HATE SPEECH AND PUSH
CONSPIRACY THEORIES, AT WHAT
POINT, SINCE THEY WON’T HOLD
THEMSELVES ACCOUNTABLE WHAT
HOLDS THEM ACCOUNTABLE?
I THINK GOING AFTER THE
ADVERTISERS AND ASKING THEM IF
THEY SUPPORT THIS KIND OF
LANGUAGE AND LIES ON THESE
PLATFORMS, IF THEY DON’T SUPPORT
THIS, WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD
THEY ADVERTISE ON THOSE
PLATFORMS?
>> YOU KNOW, FACEBOOK HAVE HAD
THE OPPORTUNITY TO BOTH BENEFIT
FROM HATE SPEECH, THEY ALLOW
RACIAL HATE GROUPS, WHITE
SUPREMACY GROUPS TO BUY ADS.
THEY PLACE THOSE NEXT TO BRAND
NAMES.
WE HAVE HAD MEETING AFTER
MEETING WITH FACEBOOK.
REVEREND SHARPTON AND I MET WITH
MARK ZUCKERBERG IN HIS HOME TO
SAY THEY HAVE TO END THIS.
THEY HAVE ALLOWED FOREIGN
NATIONS TO INTERFERE WITH OUR
ELECTION, AND THEY REFUSE TO DO
ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
UNFORTUNATELY FOR THE AMERICAN
PUBLIC, THE POWER OF FACEBOOK
HAS -- THERE’S -- IT’S ABOVE
REGULATIONS.
YOU HAVE ONE PERSON WHO OWNS 60%
OF THE STOCK.
THERE IS NO GOVERNMENTAL
OVERSIGHT.
THEY HAVE BECOME A PUBLIC
UTILITY WITHOUT ANY OVERSIGHT
FROM ANYTHING.
SO NOW WE MUST STAND UP WITH
CORPORATE PARTNERS WHO SAY THEY
DENOUNCE WHITE SUPREMACY, RACIAL
HATRED AND STOP SPENDING AD
MONEY ON THAT PLATFORM.
THEY’RE PROBABLY ONE OF THE
BIGGEST THREATS TO DEMOCRACY WE
SEE.
.
>> THEY ARE, REVERENDAL, A
THREAT TO DEMOCRACY.
>> TOTALLY.
>> THEY ARE A THREAT TO BLACK
AMERICANS.
THEY’RE A THREAT TO BLACK
AMERICANS BECAUSE THEY WILL NOT
STOP THE HATE SPEECH FROM
SPREADING.
THEY’RE A THREAT TO SENIOR
CITIZENS BECAUSE THEY ALLOW
CONSPIRACY THEORIES AND MOVIES
TO BE SPREAD AROUND ON THEIR
PLATFORM.
AND LIKE DEREK SAID, THEY’RE NOT
HELD LIABLE.
CONGRESS HAS GIVEN THEM COMPLETE
IMMUNITY.
IF YOU’RE A BLACK MAN OR WOMAN
IN AMERICA AND VIOLENCE IS
VISITED UPON YOU BECAUSE OF SOME
HATE GROUP ON FACEBOOK, THEN
WHAT CAN YOU DO ABOUT IT?
IT’S LIKE THE FEDERAL OFFICER
THAT WAS SHOT IN OAKLAND.
THE PERSON THAT SHOT HIM WAS A
MEMBER OF A HATE GROUP FACEBOOK
PAGE.
NOT ONLY WAS THAT BAD ENOUGH,
REV, BUT THEY WERE ALLOWING THEM
ON THERE, FACEBOOK WAS ACTUALLY
PUSHING OTHER PEOPLE WHO WEREN’T
A PART OF THAT HATE GROUP TOWARD
THAT HATE GROUP, RECOMMENDING
THAT THEY BECOME MEMBERS OF THAT
HATE GROUP.
REV, REV, THE NAACP, THE
ANTI-DEFAMATION LEAGUE, AND, OF
COURSE, YOU AND OTHER
ORGANIZATIONS HAVE BEEN PUSHING
FOR THEM TO GET RID OF THE HATE
SPEECH AND MARK ZUCKERBERG
REFUSES.
HE SAID HE WON’T EVEN TOUCH THE
PRESIDENT’S MOST VIOLENT
RHETORIC.
HELL, EVEN TWITTER AGREED TO DO
THAT.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
TWITTER HAS AGREED.
AND AS DEREK JOHNSON JUST SAID,
WE WENT TO ZUCKERBERG’S HOME,
HAD A MEETING FOR SEVERAL HOURS.
THIS IS NOT SOMETHING WE JUMPED
OUT THERE TO SAY.
WE TRIED TO REASON WITH THEM AND
THEY WILL NOT DO IT.
THE ONLY MOTIVE ONE COULD REALLY
COME WITH IS SAYING THEY JUST
PUT THEIR PROFITS AND MAKING
MONEY OVER THE SAFETY AND THE
BRINGING TOGETHER OF THE
AMERICAN PUBLIC OR THE CONSUMERS
FOR THAT MATTER AROUND THE
WORLD.
THEREFORE, YOU HAVE A
RESPONSIBILITY TO SAY, FINE, WE
WON’T BE A CONSUMER.
HOW DID WE DEAL WITH THE CIVIL
RIGHTS MOVEMENT AND REENERGIZING
OF IT IN THE LATE ’50s AND ’60s
THAT YOU JUST TALKED ABOUT JOE,
THEY HAD A BOYCOTT.
WHEN ROSA PARKS WOULD NOT GIVE
UP HER SEAT AND WAS ARRESTED FOR
USING THE FRONT OF THE BUS.
THEY HAD THE ECONOMIC LEVERAGE
SAYING FINE WE WON’T RIDE THE
BUS.
IT’S BETTER TO WALK IN DIGNITY
THAN RIDE IN SHAME.
I WOULD RATHER WATCH ANOTHER
SITE WITH MY DIGNITY THAN TO
SHAMEFULLY WATCH SOMEBODY THAT
WILL GIVE CREDITABILITY TO A
HATE POSTING OR BIGOTED POSTING,
PUT IT NEXT TO A BRAND NAME,
GIVING IT CREDIBILITY AND MAIN
STREAMING THAT HATE AND BIGOTRY,
WE CAN’T SUPPORT THAT.
>> THAT ED LUCE IS A PROBLEM.
FACEBOOK ALLOWS HATE TO BE MAIN
STREAMED.
FACEBOOK ALLOWS BIGOTRY TO BE
MAIN STREAMED.
FACEBOOK ALLOWS CONSPIRACY
THEORIES THAT LEAD PEOPLE TO GO
TO PALM BEACH COUNTY COMMISSION
MEETINGS AND TALK ABOUT MASKS
EVEN BEING THE WORK OF THE
DEVIL.
AND THIS PREPOSTEROUS CONSPIRACY
THEORY MOVE, PLANDEMIC THAT
FACEBOOK PROMOTED TO SUCH A
DEGREE THAT DOCTORS I TALK TO
ARE STILL HAVING TO TELL THEIR
PATIENTS, IT’S ALL A LIE.
IT’S A LIE.
IT’S A CONSPIRACY THEORY.
BUT MARK ZUCKERBERG WON’T BE
RESPONSIBLE.
AND HE’S WORTH ABOUT $85 BILLION
NOW FOR TRAFFICKING IN THIS
NEGLIGENCE.
PUSHING DEADLY CONSPIRACY
THEORIES THAT ACTUALLY WILL END
UP KILLING AMERICANS.
IT’S JUST THAT PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
IF A CAR COMPANY DID THAT,
AMERICANS COULD HOLD THEM
LIABLE, BUT NOT FACEBOOK BECAUSE
CONGRESS KEEPS PROTECTING THE 85
BILLIONAIRE.
>> YEAH, IF YOU LOOK AT
FACEBOOK’S PROFITABILITY IN THE
LAST THREE YEARS SINCE THE WHOLE
FACEBOOK ROLE WITH CAMBRIDGE
ANALYTIC AND THE RUSSIAN NEWS
CAMPAIGN OF 2016 HAS COME TO
LIGHT.
IT’S MULTIPLIED.
THE PROFITABILITY LINE SHOOTS
SHARPLY UPWARDS.
THIS ISN’T BAD FOR MARK
ZUCKERBERG’S BOTTOM LINE, IT’S
GOOD.
BEING DEFINED AS THE NEW TOBACCO
IS GOOD FOR THE BOTTOM LINE.
HITTING FACEBOOK WHERE IT
MATTERS, THROUGH ADVERTISING, IS
THE ONLY WAY TO DO ANYTHING.
I THINK HE HAS TRIED TO VIR
WHICH YOU SIGNAL WHILE PROFITING
FROM THE DISSEMINATION OF
THEORIES.
I WATCHED THE SAME PALM BEACH
COUNTY HEARING THAT YOU DID,
JOE, THE TALK OF MASKS WEREN’T
MANDATED BY THE BIBLE.
THE PEDOPHILE RINGS AND
SCIENTISTS ARE RECOMMENDING
MASKS.
THIS KIND OF DERANGED NONSENSE
IS ENABLED BY FACEBOOK.
SO BY CUTTING ADVERTISERS AND
DELETING YOUR ACCOUNT, MY WIFE
JUST DELETED HER ACCOUNT A
COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.
IS THE ONLY POSSIBLE RESPONSE.
>> THAT AND MAYBE CONGRESS.
>> THAT’S WHAT IT MIGHT COME TO.
>> BEING RESPONSIBLE AND HOLDING
FACEBOOK RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR
NEGLECT ACTIONS THAT ARE KILLING
AMERICANS AND THAT ARE SPREADING
HATRED, BIGOTRY, AND RACISM.
PEOPLE STILL TALK ABOUT BIRTH OF
A NATION.
THEY’LL BE TALKING ABOUT
FACEBOOK.
THEY’LL BE TALKING ABOUT THE
CONSPIRACY THEORIES.
THEY’LL BE --
>> THEY ALREADY ARE.
>> -- TALKING ABOUT THE RACISM,
THEY’LL BE TALKING ABOUT THE
SEWAGE.
THEY’LL BE TALKING ABOUT
FACEBOOK AS A THREAT TO AMERICAN
DEMOCRACY UNLESS CONGRESS HOLDS
THEM ACCOUNTABLE AND LETS
AMERICANS DAMAGED BY FACEBOOK’S
ACTIONS SUE FACEBOOK IN THE
COURT OF LAW.
THEN GUESS WHAT, OH MY GOD --
>> THINGS WOULD CHANGE.
>> -- HOW RADICAL THAT WOULD BE,
WE WOULD HAVE A COMPANY THAT HAD
TO BE DRIVEN BY FREE MARKET
FORCES.
OH MY GOD, CAPITALISM.
OH MY GOD, THE INVISIBLE HAND.
OH MY GOD, PERSONAL
RESPONSIBILITY.
REPUBLICANS, THEY LIKE PERSONAL
RESPONSIBILITY.
WHAT ABOUT PERSONAL
RESPONSIBILITY FOR MARK
ZUCKERBERG?
WHAT ABOUT PERSONAL
RESPONSIBILITY FOR JACK DORSEY?
WHAT ABOUT PERSONAL
RESPONSIBILITY FOR PEOPLE WHO
MAKE $85 BILLION?
CIVIL RIGHTS LEADERS IN AMERICA
ARE BEGGING THEM TO STOP THE
SPREAD OF HATRED.
TO STOP THE PROMOTION OF TWEETS
THAT GO IMMEDIATELY OVER TO
FACEBOOK AND EVEN IF TWITTER
WILL TAKE CARE OF THOSE TWEETS,
ZUCKERBERG SAYS I’M NOT TOUCHING
IT.
ED LUCE THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> APPRECIATE IT, ED.
YOUR PIECE IN THE FINANCIAL
TIMES IS ENTITLED "CONFEDERATE
GHOSTS STILL HAUNT AMERICA".
ON YOUR POINT, JOE, TO TIE UP
SOMETHING, TWITTER MADE CHANGES
AFTER WE REACHED OUT TO THEM,
YES, WE DID SPEAK, BUT THEY DID
NOT DO ENOUGH.
THEY KEEP TRYING TO DO LITTLE
THINGS HERE AND THERE TO SHUT UP
PEOPLE WHO MIGHT HAVE A PLATFORM
TO SAY SOMETHING THAT’S ACTUALLY
MAKING SENSE ABOUT THIS ISSUE.
SO YES, THANK YOU FOR YOUR
CHANGES, NOT ENOUGH.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR CALLS, NOT
ENOUGH.
WILLIE?
>> NOT ENOUGH.
YEAH, WILLIE, IT IS CRAZY.
>> AT JACK.
>> IT IS CRAZY WHAT THESE SOCIAL
MEDIA COMPANIES GET AWAY WITH.
WHEN 230 WAS PASSED BACK IN THE
’90s, IT WAS FOR PEOPLE THAT
JUST SENT IN COMMENTS TO
ARTICLES OR CHAT BOARDS.
IT WAS SUCH A DIFFERENT THING
THAN WHAT WE’RE TALKING ABOUT
NOW WITH A CEO WHO MAKES
$85 BILLION AND IGNORES THE
NAACP, IGNORES THE
ANTI-DEFAMATION LEAGUE, IGNORES
REVEREND SHARPTON, IGNORES THE
CIVIL RIGHTS LEADERS OF OUR
TIMES SAYING HEY, YOU DON’T
UNDERSTAND.
YOU ARE SPREADING RACISM ACROSS
AMERICA AND ENDANGERING BLACK
LIVES.
THEY’RE NOT DOING A THING.
>> IT’S NOT ENOUGH TO
PERIODICALLY PUT OUT A STATEMENT
WHEN MARK ZUCKERBERG AND
SOMETIMES JOINED BY HIS WIFE
SAYS HE’S SHOCKED AND STUNNED
AND DEEPLY SADDENED BY SEEING
WHAT’S GONE ON ON THE WEBSITE HE
RUNS.
YOU CAN’T BE UPSET ABOUT CERTAIN