blaming these instruments I was like that's the trick and in the film has
been about the movie is it has interstitials right where Selena Gomez
and Taylor sort of explain these and really easy to understand ways how how
difficult is that too right leg as you're sitting down and thinking about
how to explain these instruments is is that something that's sort of intuitive
like this is clever and fun or is this something that is really hard to guess
it's the same thing you went through which is you have to know it in a
muscular way you can't just have a netgear but I can't use read what he
wrote and go right now I'm gonna do it so I kept asking questions whether great
adviser on the movie Adam Davidson who actually works
the new york times so he now has the guy a fantastic guy sits in a standoff ish
way though always its arms crossed I mean what's hard is that he's so
handsome that I we should let people know he's in the audience tonight but he
was great because we would sit for five six hours and we were just talk and talk
and then he would give me books and I would read and then I would look on my
own and then there was just a click moment which I'm sure is what you had
where all the Sun from talking to these guys and reading about it and once I got
that I could create the analogy or metaphor for it once I knew that it
would practice telling my ten-year-old daughter that's what I do it exactly you
find someone who's completely ignorant and you think incapable understand you
can you explain to them and explain to anybody that's right it's very well put
the mountain must you should you could write understanding in the muscular way
it's different from regurgitating something for you actually come to
grapple with it and understand it and then you try to then you then you
wrestle bring it across to the audience and you've done this have you ever I've
actually practice storylines on movies right told them is bedtime stories to my
daughter no joke Allegri translate them to see if they actually play a good
trick yah yah but that was the key like once I really got it and he was really
that there's a lot of jargon and a lot of language designed to confuse you and
bore you but at the root of it you're just repackaging
debt and capital that's all it is is just money and debt and you're calling
it different things are combining it with different things are putting a lot
of them together you're putting a few together you're creating side products
and once I really got that that's when the movie really all clicked for me in
when things I liked about the movie is that I think there's a cliche foremost
in most movies about Wall Street is these like slick haired guys who there's
only one type of person Wall Street and the book in the movie explain there's
actually all types of different people on Wall Street right you there's your
shorts are kind of like almost like a dyed in the wool assholes who think that
everything is going to fall apart and died in the war file picture that if
you're if you were to Google's Google into something but it but then there's
also there are your like this there are folks who want to sell anything right in
effect if you know when we're gonna go to a clip just a short of convey the
depth of character that kind that the movie and the book manages to capture
about who exists on wall street is chaos here where are we
worlds to conquer
well nobody's buying CD or mortgage bonds in the morning everybody wants Wow
popular product on the tree that's good for us
no sorry
reporting losses in the bond court to get our checking down means you need to
be inside you something ok objected attack good now so I mean this is like
these are the types of characters that I haven't really seen on screen before
right and what I love is that these are the types of characters that like I
actually know from business school in from reporting about what about Wall
Street so the meeting except if you were trying to describe to folks who haven't
seen the movie or are folks who have what you're trying to accomplish in the
movie and the book besides letting people inside like what's the message
that they're supposed to carry away from this number one is that you shouldn't be
intimidated or board that this world and this language is actually affecting you
way more than you ever realized and even though you like to think we all like to
think that like well now I'm not in economics are banking it's really not a
choice it's affecting you in huge waves constantly and then the second thing is
that it's exciting it's really amazing work there is good parts to it and there
is horrible parts to it and there's a drama built into this because it's so
powerful that a lot of americans are included in two and it feels like our
press and media in many cases go out of their way not to show you how important
this stuff is but when I really dig into it in michael's the master chronicler of
this his books are funny either entertaining yet they're always filled
with this kind of language of power that I keep coming back to that's interesting
I mean that's right do you think that the press is not doing it you're part of
it