Judy: The committee
investigating the January 6th
attack on the capitol is
wrapping up its investigation
after 18 months, more than
1000 interviews, and 10 public
hearings.
Today the members voted to
approve their final report.
And they recommended that the
department of justice charge
former president Donald Trump
with four crimes including
aiding an insurrection.
Lisa Desjardins was in the
hearing today and joins me from
the capitol.
Let's start with the news, Lisa.
These criminal were found them
and to whom are they aimed?
Lisa: Let's look at those four
criminal referrals,
recommendations to the
department of justice.
First, obstruction of an
official proceeding.
That's for obstructing the
actual January 6 count of the
electoral votes by congress.
Then, conspiracy to defraud the
United States.
That refers to several instances
the committee says, including
the so-called big lie, as well
as the idea that former
president -- former vice
president pence could stop the
electoral count.
Next, conspiracy to make all
statements.
That specifically is about the
scheme as the committee puts it,
to try to put false elector
slates on the board, overturned
the actual electors for each
state, and finally, assisting
and aiding or comforting and
insurrection.
These are all clearly very
serious charges.
He's not the only one getting a
criminal referral from the
January 6 committee.
Another trump ally involved,
attorney John Eastman is being
referred for two charges,
obstruction and conspiracy.
In addition to him, there are
three other names I want to
bring up, potential
co-conspirators that the
committee said it is not
referring for charges, but it is
calling them co-conspirators,
basically saying the department
of justice should look into
them.
Mark meadows, and Rudy Giuliani,
a well-known name, president's
former attorney.
Talking about why they made
these referrals, and
understanding this is
unprecedented in U.S. History.
Here is Jamie Raskin from the
committee.
>> We understand the gravity of
each and every referral we are
making today, just as we
understand the magnitude of the
crime against democracy that we
describe in our report.
We have gone where the facts and
the law lead us, and
inescapably, they lead us here.
Lisa: Important to know that the
committee is saying they believe
there's clear evidence they have
obtained on those referrals to
prosecute and convict on those
four charges for the former
president.
But they are saying they don't
think the department of justice
is limited.
There may be other crimes and
others associated with the
former president who should be
charged.
They are just saying these are
the crimes for which they
believe there is indisputable
evidence they have gathered.
Judy: We know there were other
lawmakers who were named in
this.
Fill in that part of the story
for us.
Lisa: Let's look at these names,
they are being referred for an
ethics investigation.
Kevin Mccarthy, Jim Jordan, the
man who is likely to be the
house chairman of the judiciary
committee, representative Scott
Perry and Andy Biggs of Arizona.
All four of them being referred
because they refused to testify
before the committee, even
though they were subpoenaed.
This raises some pushback from
Republicans.
They say the committee is
political, that it has always
targeted one party and is not
done enough to look at the
security questions involved.
I spoke to Rodney Davis, he was
appointed to the committee at
one point, and refused to Sare
because he said Nancy Pelosi was
two political -- two political
and rejecting others for that
committee.
>> Nancy Pelosi new when she was
going to deny for the first time
in our nation's history, she
knew what she wanted, and she is
getting what she wanted.
That is a one-sided report.
Unfortunately it does nothing to
improve the security apparatus
here in and around the capitol
complex, in my opinion.
Lisa: We have one of the largest
committees in congress and its
findings are divisive.
Judy: We know you were up very
late last night into the wee
hours of this morning reading
this entire 160 page report in
detail.
Step back and give us a sense of
the bigger picture it paints.
Lisa: I think if you're look at
ash if you look at what they're
saying about former president
trump, there are three broad
categories and what they allege.
First they are talking about the
big lie itself, saying former
president trump, it was
premeditated in setting up the
idea that the election could be
stolen and then he did indeed
say it was stolen even though he
knew otherwise.
The second thing they are
talking about is pressure
campaigns on the department of
justice, former vice president
pence, and election officials
across the country in states.
And the big crux of the report
is talking about the president's
refusal to step in and try and
tell the crowd to stop on
January 6.
If you look, that was part of
the video the committee showed
today in its summary, highlights
.
Let's take a look at this clip
which starts with mark Milley.
>> An assault going on on the
capital of the United States of
America.
Nothing.
No call, nothing.
Zero.
>> I remember pat saying
something to the effect of mark,
we need to do something more
there, literally calling for the
vice president to be hung.
And mark had responded something
to the effect of you heard of
pat?
He thinks Mike deserves that.
He doesn't think they're doing
anything wrong.
Lisa: The chairman and vice
chairman of the committee summed
up there approach against what
they saw as a historic threat.
Let's listen to those
soundbites.
>> Every president in our
history has defended this
orderly transfer of authority,
except one.
January 6, 20 21, was the first
time one American president
refused his constitutional duty
to transfer power peacefully to
the next.
In our work over the last 18
months, the select committee has
recognized our obligation to do
everything we can to ensure this
never happens again.
>> That faith in our system is
the foundation of American
democracy.
If the faith is broken, so is
our democracy.
Donald Trump broke that faith.
He summoned a mob to Washington
and knowingly they were armed
and angry.
Pointed them to the and told
them to fight like hell.
There is no doubt about that.
Lisa: Today we saw that large
executive summary of the report.
Something the department of
justice wants to see very much,
transcripts of the 1000 or so
interviews the committee
Those will play a very big role
in what the department of
justice does next.
Judy: We're very much looking