CASE.
INDESTRUCTIBLE.
LOOK AT THAT.
THAT IS SO COOL.
RETIRED ICE DIRECTOR TOM
HOMAN FIGHTING BACK THE HILL
TALKING TO MEMBERS ON THE
OTHER SIDE OF THE AISLE.
>> CHILDREN ARE DYING.
CARTELS ARE GETTING RICH.
WHY AM I ANGRY?
BECAUSE YOU HAVEN'T DONE
ANYTHING TO FIX IT.
NOTHING.
THERE IS NO DOWNSIDE IN
SECURING OUR BORDER.
THERE IS NO DOWNSIDE IN
ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION BEING
DECREASED.
THERE IS NO DOWNSIDE LESS
DRUGS COME TO THIS COUNTRY.
>> THE TIME OF THE GENTLEMAN
HAS EXPIRED.
>> I HAVE ASKED YOU ON MY
TIME.
YOU LET OTHER PEOPLE GO
BEYOND THEIR TIME.
>> MR. HOMAN.
>> YOU WORK FOR ME.
I'M A TAXPAYER.
[GAVEL]
>> I'M A TAXPAYER.
YOU WORK FOR ME.
>> JOINING US NOW RETIRED
ICE DIRECTOR TOM HOMAN.
TOM, YOU WORK FOUSE.
JUST FOR THE RECORD.
YOU ARE A FOX NEWS
CONTRIBUTOR.
JUST MAKE THAT CLEAR.
[LAUGHTER]
IN PARTICULAR, THEY HAD TO
KNOW WHAT THEY WERE GETTING
WHEN YOU SHOWED UP.
DO YOU THINK THAT YOU
HEARD -- YOU GOT YOUR POINT
ACROSS THAT ICE ARE NOT THE
BAD GUYS AND WOMEN.
THEY ARE THE ONES TRYING TO
ENFORCE THE LAWS AND THEY
DOWNSIDE OF SANCTUARY
CITIES.
DO YOU THINK A POINT WAS
MADE?
>> OH, ABSOLUTELY.
I THINK I GOT TO SAY
EVERYTHING I HAD TO SAY.
I HAD TO FORCE IT.
I HAD TO KEEP INTERRUPTING
THEM.
LOOK, I'M UNDER OATH AND I'M
NOT GOING TO LET THEM SIT
THERE AND TELL LIES ABOUT MY
PRESIDENT.
TELL LIES ABOUT THE MEN AND
WOMEN OF THE BORDER PATROL
AND ICE.
IT WAS LIE AFTER LIE.
THEN -- IT'S MY
RESPONSIBILITY TO SET THE
RECORD STRAIGHT BECAUSE THEY
ARE OUT AND OUT LYING.
THEY ARE NOT GOING TO SHUT
ME DOWN AND NOT LET ME
RESPOND AT CERTAIN POINT.
NO, I'M NOT GOING TO SHUT
UP.
YOU LIED.
YOU KNOW, I'M UNDER OATH.
YOU SHOULD BE UNDER OATH.
AND AT THE POINT JUST
BECAUSE YOU HAVE A GAVEL
DOESN'T MAKE YOU KNOW THE
QUEEN OF THE DAY.
IT DOESN'T ALLOW TO YOU LIE
TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
YOU NEED TO BE HELD
ACCOUNTABLE.
THEY ARE NOT UNDER OATH.
I WILL FIND THAT INCREDIBLE
WHEN CONGRESSMAN AREN'T
UNDER OATH WHEN THEY ARE IN
THAT ROOM AND I AM.
I'M NOT GOING TO TOLERATE
THEM LYING TO THE AMERICAN
PEOPLE:
AINSLEY: WHEN I WATCHED IT I
REALIZE HOW POLITICAL IT'S
ALL GOTTEN.
YOU SAID THE SAME ISSUES
THAT YOU ARE COMPLAINING
ABOUT NOW WERE THE SAME
ISSUES WHEN PRESIDENT OBAMA
WAS IN OFFICE.
AND YOU SAID WHEN WE CAME TO
Y'ALL AND WE ASKED YOU FOR
MONEY UNDER OBAMA Y'ALL WERE
QUICK TO GIVE US THE MONEY.
WE NEVER SAYING WHERE IS THE
MONEY WE NEED THE MONEY.
BUT NOWADAYS YOU ARE SAYING
THAT WHY IS THAT?
>> THEY DON'T FORGET THEY
WANT TO FORGET.
THEY MADE A COMMENT.
PRESIDENT TRUMP IS VIOLATING
LAW WHEN HE MOVES MONEY
WITHIN, TAKING FROM OTHER
AGENCIES FOR MORE BEDS.
VIOLATING THE SANCTITY OF
THE CONGRESSIONAL
RESPONSIBILITY.
WAIT A MINUTE, SIX OUT OF
THE 8 YEARS PRESIDENT OBAMA
IS IN OFFICE, WE DID THAT
SAME EXACT THING.
I DIDN'T SEE ANY HEARINGS ON
THAT.
AND I TOLD HER, I SAID THIS
IS WRONG.
ITS DISHONEST AND PATHETIC
CALL THE PRESIDENT OUT FOR
VIOLATING THE LAW HE DIDN'T
FOR THE SAME THING PRESIDENT
OBAMA DID SIX OUT OF EIGHT
YEARS.
THAT'S MISTRUTH TO THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE.
THAT'S MISLEADING THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE.
THAT'S A FALSE NARRATIVE
THEY CONTINUE TO PUSH.
I'M NOT GOING TO LET THEM
SIT THERE AND GET AWAY WITH
IT.
STEVE: TOM, THEY DIDN'T LIKE
YOUR MESSAGE BECAUSE YOU
ESSENTIALLY SAID LOOK, THERE
ARE PROBLEMS DOWN SOUTH AND
Y'ALL CAN FIX IT BECAUSE THE
ADMINISTRATION FOR THE LAST
TWO YEARS YOU SAID HAVE
ASKED CONGRESS TO CLOSE
THREE LOOPHOLES AND THEY
HAVE JUST SAT ON THEIR
HANDS.
>> THAT WAS MY POINT.
ONE OF THE CONGRESSMAN SAID
YOU ARE BLUSTERED AND ANGRY.
YEAH I'M ANGRY BECAUSE
CHILDREN ARE DYING.
31% OF WOMEN BEING RAPED.
CARTELS GETTING RICH.
YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT THE TENT
CONDITIONS.
CLAIM 65,000 PEOPLE IN
DETENTION.
IT'S YOUR FAULT.
LOOK IN THE MIRROR.
IF YOU WERE WORK WEARING
THIS PRESIDENT TO SECURE THE
BORDER AND CLOSE THOSE
LOOPHOLES.
NONE OF THIS WOULD HAVE
HAPPEN.
FAMILY SEPARATION WOULDN'T
HAVE HAPPENED.
THIS SON YOU AND YOUR
FAILURE.
NOT THE MEN AND WOMEN ON THE
BORDER PATROL AND ICE.
CERTAINLY NOT OUR PRESIDENT.
NOT OUR PRESIDENT.
BRIAN: YOU CANNOT DIMINISH
THE HELP THAT EL SALVADOR,
MEXICO, HONDURAS.
THEY ARE RALLYING AND
LISTENING AND HELPING US OUT
BECAUSE CONGRESS IS NOT.
>> AND THAT'S THE SAD DAY IN
AMERICA WHEN FOREIGN
COUNTRIES DOING MORE TO