>>> WELCOME BACK TO "MORNING
JOE".
THE SENATE INTELLIGENCE
COMMITTEE WILL EXAMINE AMERICAN
EXTREMIST GROUPS LIKE THOSE WHO
ATTACKED THE UNITED STATES
CAPITOL ON JANUARY 6th.
THE COMMITTEE’S NEW CHAIRMAN,
DEMOCRATIC SENATOR WASHING
WARNER OF VIRGINIA, PLANS TO DO
A, QUOTE, SIGNIFICANT DIVE INTO
THE ANTI-GOVERNMENT MOVEMENT IN
THE UNITED STATES.
THE COMMITTEE WILL ALSO LOOK
INTO TIES THE GROUPS HAVE TO
ORGANIZATIONS IN EUROPE, AS WELL
AS TO RUSSIA’S AMPLIFICATION TO
THEIR MESSAGES.
JOINING US IS COVERING NATIONAL
SECURITY AND INTELLIGENCE KIN
DISCIPLINE YANN.
HE IS OUT WITH NEW REPORTING
HEADLINE, QUOTE, BIDEN MAY HAVE
TROUBLE TRACKING DOWN ON
DOMESTIC TERRORISM BECAUSE OF
FREE SPEECH AND THE FBI.
GOOD TO SEE YOU.
GOOD MORNING.
WALK US THROUGH THIS A LITTLE
BIT.
IT DOES SEEM STRAIGHTFORWARD TO
A LOT OF PEOPLE.
IF WE CAN GO AFTER INTERNATIONAL
TERRORISTS, WHY CAN’T WE DO IT
AT HOME.
>> GOOD MORNING, WILLIE.
I TOOK A DEEP DIVE AND FOUND
THERE ARE TWO MAIN REASONS IT’S
GOING TO BE HARDER.
ONE IS A REASON OF LAW AND THE
CONSTITUTION AND FREE SPEECH.
BUT ANOTHER IS A REASON OF
CULTURE AND POLITICS INSIDE THE
FBI.
THE LAW IS PRETTY CLEAR, WE
DON’T DESIGNATE DOMESTIC
TERRORIST ORGANIZATIONS IN THIS
COUNTRY THE WAY WE DO AL QAEDA
AND ISIS AND THE WAY OTHER
COUNTRIES LIKE CANADA DESIGNATE
DOMESTIC ORGANIZATIONS.
CANADA DESIGNATED THE PROUD BOYS
THE OTHER DAY.
WE DON’T DO THAT.
SO THAT TAKES AWAY SOME LEGAL
TOOLS THAT ARE USED AGAINST AL
QAEDA AND ISIS SYMPATHIZERS,
PARTICULARLY A STATUTE THAT
MATERIALIZES SUPPORT FOR
TERRORISM.
THAT’S ONE BIG ISSUE.
THERE IS A DEBATE WHETHER THAT
SHOULD BE CHANGED.
ANOTHER ISSUE I FOUND TALKING TO
FBI AGENTS WHO HAVE DONE THIS
WORK FOR YEARS, THERE JUST
WASN’T THE SAME INTEREST AND
EMPHASIS INSIDE THE FBI TO GO
AFTER PARTICULARLY FAR RIGHT
WING VIOLENT EXTREMISTS.
AND THEY HAD TO STRUGGLE, THOSE
AGENTS, TO MAKE THOSE CASES.
AND THE OUTCOMES WERE VERY
DIFFERENT.
THE TOOLS THEY WERE ALLOWED TO
DO VERY DIFFERENT, EVEN WITHIN
THE LAW.
AND I LOOKED AT TWO PARTICULAR
CASES, TWO WHITE MIDDLE-AGED
DEPOSIT WORKERS FROM THE
WASHINGTON, D.C. AREA, BOTH OF
WHOM ARE WHITE SUPREMACISTS.
ONE DEVELOPED AN AFFILIATION
WITH ISIS.
D.C. METRO TRANSIT OFFICER.
THEY RAN INFORMANTS ON HIM.
FISA WARRANTS.
FINALLY, THEY GOT HIM TO
PURCHASE $245 WORTH OF PHONE
CARDS FOR ISIS.
ANOTHER CALLED FOR PRESIDENT
OBAMA TO BE SHOT IN THE HEAD.
HE PURCHASED AN ILLEGAL MACHINE
GUN, ACCORDING TO COURT RECORDS.
AND HE GOT 12 MONTHS IN JAIL.
SO THOSE TWO CASES TO ME SAID IT
ALL ABOUT THE DISPARITY IN HOW
THE LAW AND THE FBI HAVE TREATED
THESE KINDS OF DOMESTIC
TERRORIST CASES.
>> KEN, STAY WITH US.
I WANT TO BRING NEWLY NAMED
CHAIRWOMAN INTELLIGENCE AND
COUNTERTERRORISM SUB COMMITTEE
DEMOCRATIC CONGRESSMAN ELISSA
SLOTKIN, MEMBER OF THE ARMED
SERVICES COMMITTEE, SERVED AS
MIDDLE EAST ANALYST FOR THE CIA
AND SERVED AS ACTING ASSISTANT
SECRETARY OF DEFENSE FOR
INTERNATIONAL SECURITY AFFAIRS.
CONGRESSWOMAN, IT’S GOOD TO SEE
YOU.
YOU WERE ON THIS SHOW A FEW
WEEKS AGO AND SAID SOMETHING
THAT I THINK JUMPED OUT TO A LOT
OF PEOPLE.
THE POST-9/11 ERA WERE OUR
GREATEST THREATS THAT ARE
EXTERNAL IS OVER.
WE HAVE INTERNAL DIVISIONS
WITHIN OUR OWN COUNTRY THAT
SERVE THE GREATEST THREAT.
WHAT MORE CAN BE DONE FROM WHERE
YOU SIT TO GO AFTER DOMESTIC
TERRORISTS?
>> YEAH.
I MEAN, I THINK KEN HAS IT
RIGHT.
THE QUESTION THAT WE WILL BE
TAKING ON IN OUR SUB COMMITTEE,