a few weeks ago I quickly covered two new AMD announcements the availability
of b550 motherboards well sorta because those boards just
seem to be selling up everywhere and then three new Ryzen CPUs well they're
sort of new so there's a Ryzen 9 3900XT the Ryzen 7 3800XT and
the Ryzen 5 5 3600XT when we publish that video a lot of you were expressing
concerns about its pricing overall performance and most importantly what
their launch would do to AMD's current lineup well we've got all three of them
right over here and this review is going to follow our usual course so first I'll
walk you through what has changed in terms of specs and then go over how the
new XT series compared to what's already out there and then finally wrap up with
a metric ton of benchmarks also do keep in mind that a lot of the numbers that
you're going to be seeing in just a bit have been updated with new numbers and
the reason for that is over the last few months there have been some major
updates for Windows and some applications that we use and we're also
going to be breaking this review into different segments just so if you want
to get to a particular area you can just simply hover over the timeline now if
your devices and support that feature will make sure you leave timestamps in
the description down below so with that out of the way let's talk about these
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juicy details I think it's important for me to set the stage a little bit today
actually marks exactly one year since Zen 2 and Ryzen 3000 series CPU's were
launched that's right exactly one year has just flown by so over the course of
those 365 days AMD has proven that it can dominate Intel on almost every front
that includes even after comet Lake s was announced
if anything that CPU lineup showed how much ground Intel had to make up for but
AMD still can sit on his heels either so that got me thinking with all these
massive successes a firm lead over the competition and Xen 3 which is confirmed
to be launched later this year why even bother with the XT series well
I have an answer or more like I have an assumption it all starts with andis use
of an enhanced seven animated architecture for these new processors
basically over the course of last year they have been able to fine-tune
transistor characteristics to get higher performance through better frequencies
without increasing voltage power consumption or heat
well those refinements will probably be carried over into z3 so this is a great
opportunity for a production test run before the updated manufacturing process
gets rolled into the next generation of CPUs technically this should mean less
headaches down the road while we get some new tech to talk about but what
kind of advancements are we actually gonna see right now well like a lot of
you said it's pretty underwhelming at least on paper starting off with the
Ryzen 5 3600 XT it gets a hundred megahertz boost to the single core
boosts clonk versus the 3600X the Ryzen 7 3800XT meanwhile gets a bit
more generous bump of two hundred megahertz to it's single thread clock
and you'll notice the 3700XT isn't listed here that's probably because it's
already so close to the 3800X's performance that adding an XT version
would make a 3800X kind of pointless the big boy of this new lineup is the
3900XT and when lined up against the 3900X well yeah you only get a hundred
megahertz here again now I really need to highlight one very important thing
all of those are listed as up to and from our experience it does take a
little bit of work to get those frequencies on a regular basis first of
all you need to find the right mojo with your motherboard settings on our ass
rock x5 Sony Taichi that meant leaving everything to auto while on the MSI x5
70 ace we needed these settings you'll also need to make sure that windows
detects enough idle processor time that it parks course into a completely idle
state in order for that to happen on a regular basis I found you need to
disable always-on applications like Adobe Creative Cloud and
Autodesk app we also found an issue with steam you play an origin requesting CPU
cycles that directly impacted Cinebench single core results so once those hoops
were jumped through this is what we actually saw while AMD claims the 3900
xt hits 4.7 gigahertz we saw an average sustained frequency of four point six
two gigahertz that's still 50 megahertz higher than he 39 our next though so
it's something I guess but when it comes to peak single thread speed the CPU did
indeed hit four point seven five gigahertz every now and then switching
to multi-threaded workloads AMD doesn't claim any improvements but when averaged
out over the course of a 20-minute myrin there's a really really small 20
megahertz advantage let's see where that comes from since it impacts the behavior
of all the xt cpus there were quite a few times throughout the all core test
where the cores are consistently boosting fifteen to fifty megahertz
higher this will probably cause a very very narrow advantage for the 3000xt
cpus in some applications but not enough to make a visible difference this
pattern repeated itself almost identically for the 3800XT though it has
a slightly larger single core advantage over the 3800X since its weighted
boost clock has been increased by 200 megahertz the 3600XT is a copy and
paste of that too with higher Peaks but very similar averages compared to the
3600X so with all of that taken into mind there isn't gonna be a huge
performance leap over the non xt cpus but there is a huge price gap between
them like a lot of you brought up in the last video game DS retail partners have
already started to lower prices on the 3900X 3800X and 3600X so let's
check out how they all line up basically what you're gonna see is the XT variants
hitting the same prices as their predecessors did a year ago the main
problem is those reduced prices not with the 3900X at $420 the 3800X at 320
dollars and you 3600X at just 220 dollars
meanwhile the 3700X will continue to be at $275 but when you start looking at
things paying between 30 and 80 bucks for a few extra megahertz
seems like a pretty raw deal I should also mention that the 3900XT
and 380 XT don't have coolers while the 3600XT includes a rates fire
in its box but before I jump into any conclusions let's head into the
benchmarks you can pause here if you want to read through the complete system
specs starting things off with single thread performance and yeah it looks
like there is a small bump when moving from the X series to the new 3000XT's
it isn't much at only around 5% but it's there in this one case things change
when moving on to purely multi thread benchmarks and this is something we'll
see pretty much throughout both synthetic and real-world tests basically
the 3900XT the 3800XT and the 3600XT don't offer any tangible benefits in CPU
intensive applications meanwhile in programs that are slightly less
multi-threaded or used a GPU for secondary processing the benefits are a
bit higher and I mean a bit this is a result of a higher sustained speeds over
the course of each test but honestly this doesn't amount to much in real
world in gaming pretty much all these mid-level and higher-end CPUs align with
one another but if you dive down a bit into the results the differences in
average frame rates between the X and the XT Series was literally nothing
there was a slight bump in 1% lows for the faster CPUs it wouldn't make a
visible impact in gameplay but after multiple runs it was there another thing
that amy mentioned is the xt series should see more of an advantage in games
that are sensitive to frequencies we didn't see any of that here but maybe it
comes down to which titles were using and the fact that every one of them is
set to the highest details power consumption showed really minor
increases for all these processors except the 3900XT which was a bit high
personally i think this is because the 3900X we have in the office tends to
run really cool and seems to be an overall more efficient chip compared to
some of the others that we've come across either way all these numbers are
pretty much within the margin of error well guys a lot of you mentioned that
these refresh processors from AMD seemed pretty underwhelming since they don't
offer a huge leap in terms of performance but they also cost a lot
more than the CPUs that are currently in the market right now and unfortunately
that's the conclusion that we've come based on what AMD has been bringing to
the table over the last year the 3000XT series just look like a poor value
I mean look when you look at the current lineup the non-XT CPUs are at their
lowest price point right now which is amazing it almost feels like AMD was
expecting their existing refresh processors to be able to achieve higher
sustained speeds but that just didn't happen so they were sort of forced to
launch them anyway as for the competition against the comet Lake
lineup well I'm just gonna voice in caution for
AMD in general Ryzen 3000 processors offer a phenomenal value when
compared to anything in team Blues lineup but these new CPUs almost wipe
out any pricing advantage I mean sure the XT is still win by a longshot in
many productivity applications and yet many Intel CPUs tend to be an overall
better choice for gaming even if they are attached to an outdated platform a
few price cuts for Intel could really ruin the XT series at least in gaming so
here's the deal if you're in the market for a new AMD CPU skip the XT series
because the small benefits which again in terms of performance doesn't seem to
be justifiable considering how expensive they are compared to the current rise in
lineup I would save that money and just invest that into a better GPU or storage
so on that note thank you so much for watching and I'll talk to you guys in
the next one