-Chelsea, I imagine --
Look, you know, I'm living with my wife.
It has to be so hard to be single right now.
Or is it great being single?
-I mean, I think for this period of time,
it's been helpful to be single, because now I know
that I'm like, "Okay, so if I were to ever
go through this again, what kind of partner I'd be looking for."
But I don't have any regrets about being single.
I mean, every-- Not everyone.
But there are too many divorces going around for me to ever have
confidence in that kind of institution for myself.
I know that I would be prone to divorce.
So I'm just gonna stay out of the marriage game
for the rest of my life... -Yep.
-...and not ruffle any feathers.
-Is there anything romantic about talking to anyone
in this time, knowing that there's no physical component
in the near future?
-Yeah. 'Cause, like, what's the protocol?
So you get tested, but then, don't you have to get tested
really kind of three times within five days to find it
after you've been exposed?
So, I don't know what you do.
I'm not into, like, virtual phone sex.
Like, I'd rather just take a Xanax and go to bed.
I'm not interested in anything like that.
-Well, that's romantic, too. -Yeah, that's kind of romantic.
That's a personal fantasy of my own.
-Do you find romance in watching Governor Cuomo of New York?
Is that -- -It's so funny.
I'm on a press tour about my paperback edition,
and I keep getting all these questions about Andrew Cuomo.
It's like I'm doing a press tour
about him and his press briefings.
-You should at least get him to plug your book
during one of his press conferences,
just to repay the favor. -Oh, yeah.
But the press briefings are over.
So, they just ended it. -Oh, yeah, that's true.
Well, he'll have to do press again.
-You're obviously not as big of a fan as I am.
-I'm just saying, there's gonna be a second wave,
and he'll be back up there.
And he might as well have your book next to him.
-Well, what I do -- You're right.
I like your suggestion, and I'll pass it along.
What I just -- I think that, you know, the competence, obviously,
is a huge aphrodisiac these days.
I think we're all completely dehydrated
from a lack of leadership.
So, him coming on the scene in the way he did
to give clarity to a topic
that we all still don't know enough about,
that was one thing.
But then he did it again, you know, with police reform.
He led the country. Like, there's 20 states
following -- and hopefully more -- following suit.
And he's gonna keep doing it
because he was listening to the people.
And it's like, "Oh, my gosh. It's just so seductive
to see anybody in politics speak like that."
And I actually do think, like, in the last couple weeks,
everybody in politics has been standing up a little straighter
since Cuomo came on the scene.
If you see all the people that are speaking up about Trump
that didn't for many years -- not John Bolton.
But, you know, all the others.
He's setting an example for politicians everywhere.
Because older white guys need a reboot.
-Yeah. I think that's very fair.
And what about Gavin Newsom, the governor of your own state?
How are you feeling about him? -Well, he has great hair.
But, I mean... -Yeah.
-He's not front-and-center the way Cuomo has been.
-Gotcha, okay.
-You know, we just got a mandatory mask wearing.
I mean, we opened up California when we were in better shape --
I mean, we opened up in California when we were
in worse shape than when we closed it.
So, I mean, it's a hot mess in this country right now.
So, yeah. -It is a hot mess.
I was very happy to hear this because I know that you had
sort of stopped doing stand-up,
but you're gonna do a special for HBO Max.
And what's it like now --
One, why did you decide to do it?
And, two, are you finding this time to be a creative time,
insofar as you can write material without being able
to go out and see how it plays?
-Well, I think -- I did a big tour before this,
right off the back of when I was interviewing --
when you interviewed me for my book.
I did a whole tour where I was being interviewed.
And through that, I just started telling stories from the book.
And I was like, "Oh, this is a one-woman show."
I just have to take these stories and put it
into stand-up form because, you know, they was as much funny
as there was drama or trauma.
And I really wanted to make a stand-up show that had emotion
along with, like, it packs a hard comedy punch.
I wanted it to make people walk away with something.
And now, I've figured out how to do that.
So, I'm shooting it for, yeah, HBO Max,
but I have to shoot it in COVID, so we're figuring that out.
-Yeah, well --
-Maybe I'll shoot it at the governor's mansion in Albany.
-Yeah, there you go! -I've finally come home!
[ Both laugh ]
-It is always so lovely to see you, Chelsea.
Hopefully next time in person.
And congrats again on the book.
As I told you last year, it's such a fun,
moving, thoughtful read.