vote, that your grandmother
taught you was precious.
Ms. Moss: Yes.
Rep. Schiff: I know the events
we are here to talk about today
are difficult to relive.
You proud service as an election
worker took a dramatic turn on
the date Rudy Giuliani
publicized a video of you and
your mother counting ballots on
election night.
President trump, Rudy Giuliani,
and others claimed on the basis
of this video that you and your
mother were somehow involved in
a plot to kick out observers,
bring suitcases of false ballots
into the arena and run them
through the machines multiple
times.
None of that was true, was it?
Ms. Moss: None of it.
Rep. Schiff: -- Georgia state
legislators.
A week after that clip was first
circulated by Mr. Giuliani and
president trump, I want to
advise that these statements are
completely false and deeply
disturbing.
Mr. Giuliani: Earlier in the
day, ruby Freeman and shaye
Freeman moss and other
individuals passing around vials
of heroin or cocaine.
It is obvious to anyone who is a
criminal investigator or
prosecutor they are engaged in
surreptitious activity that day.
They are still walking around
Georgia fine.
They should have been questioned
already.
Their places of work, their
homes should have been searched
for evidence of ballots,
evidence of voter fraud.
Rep. Schiff: That video was from
Rudy Giuliani's appearance at a
Georgia state senate hearing on
December 10.
How did you first become aware
that Rudy Giuliani was accusing
you and your mother of a crime?
Ms. Moss: I was at work like
always.
The former chief, Mr. Jones,
asked me to come to his office.
When I went to his office, the
former director, miss baron, was
there, and they showed me a
video on their computer.
It was just a short clip of us
working at state farm.
It had someone on the video
talking over the video, saying
we were doing things that we
were not supposed to do, just
lying throughout the video.
That is when I first found out
about it.
Rep. Schiff: Were there social
media posts that they showed you
responding to those false
claims?
Ms. Moss: Well, when I saw the
video, the first thing I said
was why?
Why are they doing this?
What is going on?
They told me that trump and his
allies were not satisfied with
the outcome of the election, and
they were getting a lot of
threats, being harassed online,
asked me have I been receiving
anything?
I told them, I was like, where?
Where have you been getting
these threats?
I don't believe I have any.
Mr. Jones told me they are
attacking his Facebook.
I don't really use Facebook.
I have one.
I went to the Facebook app.
I am kind of panicky at this
point because this has never
happened to me, and my mom is
involved.
I am her only child.
I am asking where are the
messages?
How do you get to the messages?
He said it is another icon
on your phone that says
messenger.
I went to that icon, and it was
horrible things.
Rep. Schiff: To those horrible
things include threats?
Ms. Moss: A lot of threats,
wishing death to me, telling me
that I will be in jail with my
mother and saying things like be
glad it is 2020 and not 1920.
Ms. Moss: Were a lot of these --
rep. Schiff: Were a lot of these
threats and comments racist in
nature?
Ms. Moss: A lot of them were
racist.
A lot of them were just hateful.
Rep. Schiff: One of the videos
we just watched, Mr. Giuliani
accused you and your mother of
passing some sort of USB drive
to each other.
What was your mom handing you on
that video?
Ms. Moss: A ginger mint.
Rep. Schiff: It was not just
Rudy Giuliani.
We heard president trump make
these false allegations
repeatedly during his call with
secretary raffensperger.
Let's hear what he had to say
about you and your mother.
Mr. Trump: We had at least
18,000 on tape, voters having to
do with ruby Freeman, a
professional vote scammer and
hustler.
Rep. Schiff: Donald Trump
attacked you and your mother
using her name 18 times on that
call.
Can you describe what you
experienced listening to the
former president you and your
mother?
Ms. Moss: I felt horrible.
I felt like it was all my fault.
If I would never have decided to
be in elections worker, could
have done anything else, but
that is what I decided to do,
and now people are lying and
spreading rumors and attacking
my mom.
I am an only child.
I grandmother's house, I am her
only grandchild.
I felt so bad.
I felt bad for my mom.
I felt horrible for picking this
job and being the one that oh is
wants to help, always there,
never missing one election.
I felt like it was my fault
putting my family in the
situation.
Rep. Schiff: It was not your
fault.
Your mother was kind enough to
speak with us earlier.
Let's listen to her story in her
words.
>> My name is ruby Freeman.
I have always believed that when
god says he will make your name
great, but this is not the way
it was supposed to be.
I could have never imagined the
events that followed the
presidential election 2020.
For my entire professional life,
I was lady ruby.
My community in Georgia where I
was born and lived my whole life
new me as lady ruby.
I built my business around that
name.
La ruby's unique treasures, a
pop up shop catering to women
with unique fashion.
I wore a shirt proclaiming
that I was and am lady ruby.
I have that shirt in every
color.
I wore that shirt on election
day 2020.
I have not worn it since.
I will never wear it again.
Now, I will not even introduce
myself by my name anymore.
I get nervous when I bump into
someone I know in the grocery
store who says my name.
I am worried about who is
listening.
I get nervous when I have to
give my name for food orders.
I am concerned of who is around
me.
I have lost my name, and I have
lost my reputation.
I have lost my sense of security
, all because a group of people
starting with number 45 and his
ally Rudy Giuliani decided to
scapegoat me and my daughter
shaye, to push their own lies
about how the presidential
election was stolen.
Rep. Schiff: How is this
experience of being targeted by
the former president and his
allies affecting your life?
Ms. Moss: It has turned my life
upside down.
I no longer give out my business
card.
I don't transfer calls.
I don't want anyone knowing my
name.
I don't want -- I don't go to
the grocery store at all.
I have gained about 60 pounds.
I don't do nothing anymore.
I second-guess everything that I
do.
It has affected my life in a
major way.
Rep. Schiff: Your mother also
told us about how she had to
leave her home and go into
hiding after the FBI told her it
would not be safer after January
6 until the inauguration.
Let's listen to her story.
>> Around the week of January 6,
the FBI informed me I needed to
leave my home for safety.
I left my home for safety around
that time.
>> How long did you remain
outside of your home?
>> I stayed outside my home for
two months.
I cannot believe this person.
I have lived there 21 years.
Had to have my neighbors watch
out for me.
I have to go and stay with
somebody.
It was horrible.
>> Your conversation with the
FBI, was there a specific threat
or was it the accumulation of
threats?
>> What prompted it was getting
ready to January 6 was about to
come, and they did not want me
at home.
They did not want me to be there
in fear that people were coming
to my home.
I had a lot of that.
They did not want me to be there
in case something happened.
At least until the
inaugurations.
Rep. Schiff: I understand people
once showed up at your
grandmother's house.
Tell us about that experience.
Ms. Moss: I received a call from
my grandmother.
This woman is my everything.
I have never seen her cry ever
in my life.
She called me screaming at the
top of her lungs.
Shaye, my god, just freaking me
out.
Saying there were people at her
home, and they knocked on the
door.
She opened it.
Seeing who it was.
They just started pushing their
way through, was claiming they
are coming in to make a citizens
arrest.
Claimed my mom and me were
there.
She was screaming and did not
know what to do.
I was not there.
I just felt so helpless and
horrible for her.
She was just screaming.
She was a 70 something-year-old
woman.
I will not say.
She does not like having
restrictions.
She likes to answer the door.
I told her you cannot do that.
You have to be safe.
She told me at night people
would continuously send pizzas
over and over to her home, and
they were expecting her to pay
for these large amounts of
pizza.