Could you kind of take us to the beginning, what led you to that dark side?
Yeah, so we just saw the video but I'll give you little bit more details into that.
Because honestly, the devil doesn't just come and say, Hey do you want to become a witch?
I'm going to take you down a very dark road for the next nine years of your life and you're going
to end up homeless and living in sheds, like an animal in people's backyards. Everybody would
say no to that. Nobody would sign up for that. So he comes in subtle ways and he uses little things
that you go through like in your family life, to begin to sow these tares and and these seeds of
in my life, it was rejection and so I was feeling rejected. I was getting bullied,
people were you know, making fun of me for the way that I looked, my skin and that we were poor and
so all of these seeds were being put in my head, you're not worthy, nobody likes you,
your family hates you, you're taking up more food, you're causing everybody else to be hungry, all of
these lies, all the time and so the way that I got into witchcraft was, when I was invited over to
a friend's house, I wasn't supposed to be there. My mom had strict rules. We weren't even allowed
to watch like the simpsons, smurfs like nothing that had magic in it, sorcery, no rebellion. So
I knew, I wasn't allowed to do that but I was in such a state of rebellion because I didn't want
anything to do with God, because my parents went to church and then they came home and they beat us
and we were mistreated. So I was like, Why would I want to serve God and that's how they act,
I don't want anything to do with that. Rebellion in my heart so, I went and I snuck and I watched
the movie The Craft which was a movie about witches and I saw it as an incredible movie. I
didn't see it as a deterrent like, oh no I'm never gonna do that. I saw it as a way to gain power in
a powerless situation and so from that movie and also, I was listening to music too. So any parents
out there that think, that this stuff is harmless. Listen, it led me down a path that when I look
back, I go, oh my gosh, I thank God that I'm alive today to tell my testimony because I literally
should have been dead either killed myself or been killed or end up in prison for life.
So I was listening to music like Nirvana, Jimi Hendrix, Marilyn Manson. I was listening
to a lot of deep dark things even Tori Amos, like folk alternative type of music and she was a witch.
So I was pumping that in my head. I would listen to Cranberries, the song zombie over and over and
over and that got into my spirit and I began to study out, how to do spells and what it's like
on that other side and I got into the religion of Wiccan. So I would study that out and I thought
that's not a big deal. I mean, everybody's kind of equal. We have God over here and then I could
be a god and then we have mother goddess over here and we have king horn god over here and we
have the plants of god, the dogs everything can be a God and I thought, what's wrong with that
And when you went into, you know Wicca and learned how to do spells and start
practicing that, did that improve your life. I mean, how did your life go after that?
At first, I thought this is great because I'll tell you the enemy will, I believe this,
I believe the enemy, demons that are assigned to you, they will allow certain
things in people's life to go good for a period of time because then it solidifies for instance,
if I use sage, I burn some sage and I try to get evil spirits out of my house. I believe
that demonic forces many times will go quiet in someone, so the person goes, oh wow yeah it works,
oh all the demons are gone, all the evil's gone and meanwhile, the demons over in the corner,
hiding, laughing at somebody deceiving them, knowing that in just a little bit,
they're gonna ramp up and it's gonna look like, oh my gosh, it's coming from all sides,
what's going on and then the person can't get out and then they continue to use the sage. So for me,
that is what I believe began to happen. I started to do different things in Witchcraft and I like
this boy over here, I like this person over here. So let me try this spell, this binding spell,
let's see if that works. Let me get these herbs over here and to me, it was all, it was nature.
So it wasn't like, I was out there like, you know taking blood from animal, you know it wasn't like
that, it was like you know, use certain things in nature and plants and herbs and mix them here
and you know, have intention when you say this and I was like, well what's wrong with that.
Jenny would you speak into the dangers of, would you just highlight it, the entertainment, the books,
the movies, the curiosity with the witchcraft, how that is an Open Door and to the things that
the youth right now, the young people right now, that are playing games with and thinking is just
an innocent practice but how that opens the door to Demons. Yeah, they're major open doors. It's
like signing a contract to demon, saying, it's okay come over here. I've got your stuff, I've
got everything that you created, that you designed and you can come in and so, I think people need to
be mindful of that but the problem is you have a doctrine of demons that begins to tell people
things, like this, you're doing too much, you're being too strict, oh it don't take all that at
all, come on you gotta loosen up, you got to be so relevant or you're not gonna fit in and the
world's not gonna understand you. I don't remember anywhere in the Bible, where Jesus said, make sure
the world understands you. I can't find that scripture in there. I know that the Bible says,
Be holy like I am Holy, so that no one that is not holy will not see the Lord and so for me and my
household, we don't compromise. I don't have time to compromise. I've seen what healing crystals did
in my life. I've seen what burning sage has done in my life. I've seen what intentions
and manifestation mantras and all this stuff I did, all of that law of attraction, listen,
that was law of attraction back in the day. Now it's manifesting and it's a whole new ball game
out here and teenagers, young people, why do you think the enemy is targeting them so much,
why do you think Tik Tok is literally flooded. I can't even get on. I'm serious I'm like,
I really, I'm like, as for Isaiah, as for you, y'all just handle the Tik Tok world because
I just trust that you guys, the Demon Slayers got it because I can't even get on it, because
it's so intense with the witchcraft, the tarot card reading, like I said New Age manifesting,
reiki, yoga, all these new age practices and what it is, it's a source outside of the source of the
Holy Spirit, God the Father and Jesus Christ, that says we can do something else for you and when you
do that, you step into dangerous territory. I don't care what anybody has told you, the Bible
is the only source. We have to get it from the word of God and when we begin to mix things up,
we're getting into dangerous territories. The Bible's not changing its laws, precepts, concepts,
it's still the same. Culture can change and they can say, oh we're going to go ahead and allow this
and you know, God loves everybody here and they can say all of that but whatever I read my Bible,
I have to stick with it and so yeah, there's a lot that people can get mixed up in horoscopes
that was one of the biggest things that got me before I started doing spells. I was obsessed
with being a Capricorn, I have the t-shirts, the necklaces, I looked it up, I searched it, I mean,
I was Capricorn, I was no longer even Jenny. I was anything that I read, whatever was gonna
happen for the day, I had to make sure, I read my horoscope and then, I'm, oh my horoscope, horoscope, horoscope and
listen, that is the Demonic door and it's one of the early gateways into the Demonic realm. I mean,
honestly, I was subscribed to the local newspaper and you know, physical newspaper,
they were bringing it to to me because I was like, Hey I want to stay in touch with just what's
happening in my local community and one time, I dropped my local newspaper and the last page is
the horoscope page and I was like, wait, why is this stuff, so I took all of my newspaper, burned
it and I was like, unsubscribed it. I was like, I do not want to have this stuff even in my house
because this stuff is, you know, we're not looking to the stars, we're looking to the One who made
them to see our future and the palm reading and all of that shade of Witchcraft.
Why do you think there is such a big hunger for this Supernatural, the Witchcraft Supernatural
in our generation. It seems like, I could be wrong, that 20 years ago, that hunger, that curiosity and
that appetite or maybe, I'm just wrong because I wasn't necessarily you know, aware of it but
it seems like in this last five, ten years, the interest has spiked like no other time. I mean,
we used to do deliverances 10 years ago, they were not as strong, violent as the last five years. It
seems like every other young person has demons, to the point, where it seems like, I'm like either in
Siberia, in Africa and India, where the witchcraft is so dominant. Why do you think, do you think
that the church is responsible to some degree for not providing the power of God or focusing on
Holiness that caused this spike or is just demonic agenda that's running rampant in the last days?
I think both, I think there is a demonic agenda, I think the enemy knows his time
is short and that he has not just all of a sudden said, you know what, all of hell,
let's just go ahead and start pouring out the witchcraft. This has been a strategic plan of the
enemy from the very beginning. He just has laid it out and we're seeing that it being fulfilled in
this generation but also he's had to do some work on the church side for this to be able to happen.
He's had to make us so focused on other things versus the ministry of the Lord Jesus Christ and
when Jesus was doing Ministry, He was Casting Out Devils, Healing The Sick, calling people back to
Repentance, saying, the Kingdom of God is at near and teaching the Kingdom, we got so wrapped up in,
we just have to be nice, nice, nice, nice, nice. That's just, I get it, we want to be kind to each
other and everything but we need to make sure that we're not allowing the Devil to get in the
side door, the back door. At this point, when I go into places that I'm sure, you're like this,
I'm starting to look around like, okay, we need a whole Deliverance team to work on everybody
in the worship team. First, let's get the whole choir delivered then, let's go ahead and get the
deacon board delivered and the elders board needs deliverance and it's just like, there needs to be
a reset and that is what God is doing. That's why you said in the beginning, it seems almost as if
we're having a Deliverance Revival. I believe that's what the Lord is doing on
His side because all things are working together for the good of those that love the Lord and are
called according to His purpose and plan. So while the enemy is roaring and we are getting ready for
the coming of Christ and we know all of that, he's ramped up, he's closing and blinding the eyes of
some people in the church but there is still a remnant in the earth and in my Bible, it said that
those Apostles and those that were there with Jesus, they were the ones that turned the world
upside down. So we don't need every single person, the church should be doing deliverance, we need
the remnant the people of God, those ones that are saying, enough is enough, I'm done playing church,
I don't need to go sit on pews anymore. I don't, that's over, those days are done and so we need
people that are rise up and say, let's see the real Jesus back in our churches, today.