>> THEY ARE SO HOSTILE ONE WANT
TO PUSH BACK AND SAY MAYBE'S AN
OUTSPOKE BIGOT.
BUT IF YOU PUSH BACK, THEY CAN
TURN ON YOU INSTEAD.
TRISH: THAT WAS MIKE WHACKER, A
GOOGLE ENGINEER WHO TALKED TO US
WITH THE OUTVILLAGE MOB AND A
WITCH HUNT.
HOURS AFTER THAT HE WAS
SUSPENDED THEN FIRED FOR
SPEAKING OUT.
AND HE SAYS THERE IS OBVIOUS
BIAS AT PLAY AT GOOGLE.
MIKE WACKER JOINS US ALONG WITH
FEDERAL PROSECUTOR, DOUG BURNS.
WHAT HAPPENED?
YOU CAME ON THE SHOW.
YOU SAID SOME THING.
THEN THEY SAID GOOD-BYE?
>> THEY HELD ME IN FRONT OF A
KANGAROO COURT.
THEY ASKED ME RANDOM QUESTIONS.
I'M TRYING TO GET MY BEARINGS.
THEY JUST ASKED ME A BUNCH OF
QUESTIONS.
ONE OF THE WEIRD THINGS ABOUT
IT.
ONE OF THE PEOPLE I CRITICIZED.
THIS PERSON WAS ALSO HELPING TO
CONDUCT THE INVESTIGATION OF ME.
IT WAS AN OBVIOUS CONFLICT OF
INTEREST.
TRISH: THEY HAD AN INVESTIGATION
INTO YOU.
WE KNOW GOOGLE EXECS TESTIFYING
TO CONGRESS THAT THEY ARE FAIR
AND NOT BIASED.
WE RECEIVED A STATEMENT FROM
GOOGLE ABOUT YOUR BEING
DISMISSED.
THEY SAY AND I QUOTE THAT THE
INDIVIDUAL RECEIVED A FINAL
WRITTEN WARNING IN MARCH
FOLLOWING VERBAL WARNINGS
RELATED TO A PATTERN OF
THREATENING COMMUNICATIONS TO
CO-WORKERS AND MANAGERS.
THE BEHAVIOR HAVE CONTINUED.
SO WE HAVE TAKEN ACTION.
LIKE ALL WORKPLACES WE HAVE
BASIC RULES OF THE STANDARD OF
BEHAVIOR WE EXPECT AT WORK.
WHEN THEY TALK ABOUT STANDARDS
OF BEHAVIOR, IN YOUR VIEW, THEY
WOULD PROBABLY DISAGREE, IS THAT
CONFORMING TO ONE KIND OF
POLITICAL THOUGHT?
>> YES.
IT'S BIZARRE.
ON THE ONE HAND EMPLOYMENT
THREATS ARE NOT THREATENING WHEN
THEY COME FROM THE LEFT.
BUT MILDLY HARSH CRITICISM FROM
THE RIGHT IS THREATENING.
TRISH: YOU FEEL LIKE THAT'S ALL
YOU DID, POINT OUT SOME
INEQUITIES?
>> YEAH.
IN THE FINAL WARNING.
ONE OF THE ALLEGATIONS THEY HAD
AGAINST ME IS SOMEONE CALLED ME
RUDE AND DISRESPECTFUL.
THIS ONE PERSON I REFERRED TO AS
A TERRORIST.
AND HE DOUBLED DOWN ON HIS
COMMENTS ABOUT MARSHA BLACKBURN?
SHE WAS ON THE SHOW THE OTHER
NIGHT AND SHE IS A NICE LADY
FROM TENNESSEE.
>> YES, SHE IS.
TRISH: THERE SEEMS TO BE A THEME
WITH GOING.
YOU LOOK UP CALIFORNIA
REPUBLICAN, YOU GET NAZI.
THERE IS OBVIOUSLY SOME KIND OF
BIAS THAT GOES INTO THIS.
IF YOU HAVE GROUP THINK AND YOU
ARE PROGRAMMING A CERTAIN WAY,
AREN'T YOU AT RISK FOR PUTTING
YOUR OWN BIAS IN THERE?
>> I NEVER QUITE UNDERSTOOD
HONESTLY WHERE A GROUP HAS SCENE
IDEA ONIVE INCLUSIVENESS AND
INCLUSION AND YET THEY WILL
SHOUT DOWN IDEAS THEY DON'T
AGREE WITH.
BACK TO THE CORE SITUATION.
MIKE IS RIGHT, THERE IS A DOUBLE
STANDARD ON MANY LEVELS.
THEN THE STATEMENT FROM THE
COMPANY IS THAT'S CORPORATE 101,
2, 3 AND 4.
AND THEY CATCH IT WITH SOMETHING
OTHER THAN THE IDEAS BEING
EXPRESSED AND MAKING IT AS
THOUGH HE DID SOMETHING WRONG.
MIKE'S CLAIM IS THEY RELEASED
HIM BECAUSE OF HIS IDEOLOGY.
TRISH: YOU HAVE THE DOJ LOOK
INTO ALL OF THIS.
THIS MAY BE A BLESSING IN -- IN
DISGUISE.
YOU CAN START YOUR OWN SEARCH
ENGINE.
IF THE GOVERNMENT IS SUCCESSFUL
IN BREAKING GOOGLE UP, YOU MIGHT
HAVE A CHANCE.
>> IN TERMS OF NEXT STEPS I
WOULD HAVE SOME ROLE TO PLAY,
BUT A BIG PART OF ME WANTS TO GO