Hi guys Kirk and Jay here with Kirk Giordano plastering, today I want to explain something
which I get a lot of questions about that is can you do a skip draw finish or texture with the base
coat material yes is it more difficult yes but can I do it absolutely ok guys if you're using
say a rapid set which is real popular at Home Depot and Lowe's it's a little more difficult
to do a finish coat with that or if you use in Portland cement or any of the other 20 kinds of
cement but I'll show you how we do it okay now if this base coat right here was white or it
was completely dry I'd have a really hard time doing it but it's not completely dry and since
I don't have a float here I mean I could poke into this that's that's how wet it still is but
if it's completely dry it'll keep falling off so what we do is we start from the bottom to the top
that's the finish we're matching right there and that finish is hand applied just like it's
a base coat material it's hand applied it's just like what we do and what we're doing here how do
I know because I can look at it and see it's not a color coat so we're using the same material as the
brown first of all what I want to do is I'll just start from the corner now I usually start from the
corner because I could cover my corner aid you see there's a corner right here and this is uh
it's galvanized corner aid and it's designed for making straight corners it helps us out guys now
what I do is I'll generally stagger a texture what if stager and a texture mean kind of like
sheetrock where you don't put you don't line up all the seams because you line up all the seams
it won't give it the strength but with staggerin a texture that just means you go every which way
and it matches closer with what we're doing because I'm looking at what they got and they've
got what we call the pancake finish and that's just that's just a prettier word than saying
a blob job I got a lot of rocks in this stuff because my brother Lou's just pulled this out
of the mixer and it's the same stuff we just used for the scratching brown coat now can you do this
guy's yeah when I was just starting in the trade was before we were really good at making a wall
true and plumb we would apply the the texture and the texture if you had a holiday or a radius
in the wall the texture would not fill that void because it's going with the with the blade so any
holidays or humps or bumps they'll show unless you know how to get them out we know how to get
them out of course we just did this wall in Jay and I are pretty good so we don't have to worry
too much about voids in the in the base coat so what I what I'll generally do is again depending
on the finish if it's Adobe I'll pull the mud off the top if it's what that is they pull the mud off
the bottom either way it works guys I'll take my mud here and you may not be able to see this but
the trim here we indented it a quarter inch or an eighth why because we want our texture to go in
there to come flush with the stucco trim if we're over the stucco channel then it makes us look like
amateurs and plus I'm noticing over there they are below the stucco trim so what we got to do
is match with they got a couple other things while I'm doing this finish here again this is this base
coat right now we just applied it so it's taken this texture well if it sets another house our
I'll lose it and we just come off of off like two months of rain so everything is wet it's tough to
hang plastic on a window that soak and wet too unless you dry it off beforehand now anyhow I
can see a few areas that I missed all I do is just go back over them with a little bit more texture
you don't really have to look how on how this is pulling off it does take a little practice come
to the holiday now let us go fill it up fill it up fill it up and then go back over it make sure
everything is knocked down at least consistently and of course what I do is I keep in mind what
I'm matching is over there now I spared you guys the ladder work over here but I do have to use a
ladder right here to finish the top now this is drier than this right here and here's a float
joint so what I'll do is notice how you see how most of that fell off see how it's falling off
it's not sticking that's because it's dry now you got to go flatter if a wall is dry take it
flatter that's a perfect example guys of what I'm doing now is some folks will say well gee I tried
to do it but it kept falling off then go flatter I'm flattening out the finish now because this is
drop this has been on the sun's beating on it and it had a chance to dry but I immediately knocked
this texture down because if I leave it and go get mud this will be protruding passed out because it
will have dried so you got to know what's going on with the wall guys and that's where that's
where the timing comes I've been doing this a long time so I know these little details
like this that make a huge difference again a super dry wall right here is dry right here is
a little bit bit more wet because we've done it so I'm going to take the trial and if you got a
clinker get it off and I'm putting it on edge you know i'ma go a little flatter here but when I go
to something wet I can go yellow that's trying to okay here's what we're doing we're giving
this texture and by the way guys if you really want to make life easy for yourself you'll put
you do a finished coat a finished coat comes in separate bags or a hundred pound sacks and they
come in three finishes usually you have your Santa Barbara which was twenty thirty finish then you
have your twenty thirty which is a medium finish then you have your sixteen twenty which is a heavy
heavier finish and they do sell those products at Lowe's or Home Depot and they're called I think at
Lowe's or Home Depot they're La Habra but they make vmi they make a whole bunch of different
brands that do the same thing and they're just pre pre colored and they're finished materials
and they work a lot better for texturing after you apply the base coat then you put your your
texture and it just slides or glides right off the top here just take a little bit more effort
but again I've got that time in so I can do it we're going to time in know what happens to a
trowel when you leave it in even in a box or just wet it rust this is not a stainless steel trowel,
just my regular trowel, we were just using it last week only takes a day for it to rust is it a big
deal no we scrape it on the cement to get the rust off this one is my best child but I didn't
want to spend 15 minutes scraping it this one here is a pretty good trial I'm going to point this out
guys because it's important if a trial is bent this way that's good if it's bent inwards like
this you're never going to be able to texture because this is going to texture this and the
middle is going to be hollow this is the one I want to use but I don't want to clean it right
now this one is beaten up too but I could make it work and we'll make it work okay we're taking
this down to remember on the other side I hit the edge here but I'm right-handed so I'm going
to pull back on the frame right here and I'd like to take it long as strokes as I can generally when
I'm using a color code I'll take four or five foot strokes but this is falling off because
it's a base coat material a base coat stucco or cement plaster on a drywall like this you're not
going to get five six foot strokes just not going to happen guys you can get a two foot stroke like
what I'm getting that's pretty good again if this was a finished product I can texture from here all
the way to the end twice but it's not this is a base coat so base coach guys when you do scratch
coat in the brown coat and that question always come take Kirk can I do a finish coat with it
you can but you gotta know how to texture and it takes a little bit more time in and texturing with
regular color coat or finish coat material I can do a dash which is a blown on or thrown on finish
with this, I could also do a float finish where I take a sponge float and I just bring out the
aggregate or the sand but the skip trowel finish is one of the most requested finishes I get asked
because we have about six eight hundred videos out there people will see our videos and they say gee
Kirk can you do this or that and so I don't have a video yet of what I'm doing here anyway this
is it so if you guys decide to do a script child finish with a base coat material these are just
some general tips anyhow my name is Kirk Jason on the camera we do thank you for watching and
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