TRIM CARE IS INCREDIBLY UNPOPULAR, TYPICALLY SO AND
THAT COULD END UP BEING REALLY BAD NEWS FOR THE REPUBLICAN
CONGRESSMAN WHO VOTED FOR IT.
HOW ARE THEY GOING TO RESPOND TO THE POTENTIAL THREAT TO THE
FUTURE?
IT TURNS OUT THEY ARE GOING TO JUST LIE ABOUT WHAT IS IN A
VILLAGE WRITABLE YOU INTO THINKING THAT THEY ARE NOT
THE ONES WHO ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS IN THE FIRST PLACE AND
THAT WE HAVE SEVERAL EXAMPLES OF THIS, STARTING WITH TOM
PRICE, HEAD OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES.
ONE OF THE PROBLEMS PEOPLE HAVE THIS BILL THE MOST IS THE
MASSIVE CUTS TO MEDICAID THAT ARE COMING THAT THEY'RE
GOING TO THROW FAR MORE THAN 10 MILLION PEOPLE OFF THE
PROGRAM.
THAT SEEMS LIKE SOMETHING YOU WOULD WANT TO
BE CLEAR IN YOUR POSITION ON AND JAKE TAPPER IS GOING TO TRY
TO GET THEM TO BE CLEAR DOLLARS IF HE SUCCEEDS DOUG
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MAKING ANY CUTS TO MEDICAID BUT ACCORDING TO THE CONGRESSIONAL
BUDGET OFFICE, THE HEALTH CARE BILL THAT JUST PASSED THE
HOUSE WOULD CUT $880 BILLION OVER 10 YEARS FROM MEDICAID.
>> WHAT WE ARE FASHIONING IS A SYSTEM THAT WOULD ALLOW THE
STATES TO TAILOR THEIR MEDICAID PROGRAM TO THOSE SPECIFIC
INDIVIDUALS THEREBY SAVING MONEY YES BUT ALSO MAKING IT SO
THAT THEY HAVE A HIGHER LEVEL OF CARE, HIGHER QUALITY OF
CARE THAN THEY CURRENTLY DO.
>> BUT THE CONGRESSIONAL BUDGET OFFICE LOOKED AT THE PLAN
THE PAST THE HOUSE ALTHOUGH THERE WERE SOME CHANGES TO
IT AND SAID 14 MILLION PEOPLE WHO ARE ON MEDICAID WILL NO
LONGER BE ABLE TO BE ON MEDICAID.
>> REMEMBER THAT THERE ARE NO CUTS TO THE MEDICAID PROGRAM.
THERE ARE INCREASES AND SPENDING BUT WHAT WE'RE DOING IS
APPORTIONING IN A WAY THAT ALLOWS THE STATES GREATER
FLEXIBILITY TO COVER THEIR MEDICATING CARE FOR THEIR
MEDICAID POPULATION.
THIS IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT AND I KNOW THAT THE MEDIA LOVES
TO TALK ABOUT THE CUTS THAT THE CBO TALKS ABOUT BUT AGAIN,
WITH THE CONGRESSIONAL BUDGET OFFICE MEASURES IS SPENDING
AS IF NOTHING CHANGES AT ALL, AS OF THE PROGRAM IS DOING
JUST FINE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> YOU ACTUALLY SAYING THEY HUNDRED AND $80
BILLION IN CUTS ACCORDING TO THE CBO HOWEVER YOU WANT TO
TALK ABOUT THAT NOT BEING A CUT, THAT THAT IS ACTUALLY NOT
GOING TO RESULT IN MILLIONS OF AMERICANS NOT GETTING MEDICAID?
>> ABSOLUTELY NOT.
$180 BILLION THAT'S A CUT FROM MEDICAID, HOW IS ANOTHER
BROKEN PROMISE?
>>
LOOK AGAIN JAKE, THE WINNERS AND OBAMA CARE WHERE THE INSURANCE
COMPANIES IN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OUT THE WINNERS
IN OUR PROGRAM OUR PATIENTS AND FAMILIES AND DOCTORS.
>> I HAVE TO SAY IF YOU KNOW SOMEBODY WHO IS CURRENTLY
BENEFITING FROM MEDICAID THE IDEA THAT THEY COULD BE
THEORETICALLY THROWN OFF A FATE THAT IS POTENTIALLY FACING
MILLIONS OF AMERICANS, THAT LITTLE SMILE ON HIS FACE
THROUGHOUT THAT SHOULD JUST MAKE YOUR STOMACH TURN.
HE IS SO THRILLED THAT THE CHANGES THEY ARE MAKING HAD
ALSO, LOOK, HE SAID YEAH, THEY HUNDRED $80
BILLION, THE CBO IS ESTIMATING IT IF WE DIDN'T PASS THE BILL.
YEAH, THAT IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT THE EFFECT OF
YOUR BUILDOUT WHAT WAS I SUPPOSED TO MEAN EVEN?
>> HE HAS BECOME BAGHDAD TOM.
THERE ARE NO CUTS TO MEDICAID.
REMEMBER BAGHDAD BOB IN THE IRAQ WAR.
THERE ARE NO AMERICAN THINGS IN BAGHDAD THAT WE'RE KILLING THEM.
THEY ARE JUMPING PENCILS THAT ARE ACTUALLY BOMBS BUT
THERE ARE NO AMERICANS IN BAGHDAD LIKE AS AMERICANS
ARE ROLLING BEHIND HIM.
$100 BILLION CUTS IN MEDICAID, DOESN'T MATTER, I'LL JUST
GOING TO BE IN LINE SAY THERE ARE NONE.
>> HE ALSO SAYS THE MEDIA WAS TO TALK ABOUT THIS IS THE
LOWER THIRD AT THE BOTTOM SAYS SEVEN GOP GOVERNORS WITH
CONCERN ABOUT MEDICAID CUTS.
I LOVE THAT LITTLE MATCHUP THERE.
LOOK, HE SAYS IT IS GOING TO GIVE THE STATES INCREASED
FLEXIBILITY TO MEET THEIR MEDICAID OBLIGATIONS LIKE
IF I ROBBED YOU EVER SINCE YOU HAD IT WOULD PROVIDE
INCREASED FLEXIBILITY TO FEED YOURSELF LATER THAT DAY.
THAT IS SCARY TALK TO
>> HE SAID THE MEDICAID POPULATION WILL BE CARED
FOR IN A BETTER WAY.
HOW'S THAT FOR WILEY AND?
KNOW, IF WE CUT ALL OF YOUR MONEY, YOU WILL BE BETTER
OFF FOR IT.
>> DENYING IS ACTIONABLE, THAT IS CERTAINLY ONCE STRATEGY THEY
BEEN USING DOUBLE WHAT THEY MUDDY THE WATERS LITTLE BIT MAKE
YOU THINK IT IS NOT JUST A REPUBLICAN THINK THAT LEX
TAKE A LOOK AT THIS DODDS CONGRESSMAN DENHAM.
HERE'S A STRATEGY TO GET A TOWN HALL THAT
>> CAN I JUST CLARIFY, YOU READ THE ENTIRE BILL BEFORE YOU
VOTED ON IT?
>> YES.
YOU DID.
ONE CONGRESSMAN WE KNOW IT READ THE ENTIRE BILL.
>> AND ANOTHER THAT'S TRUE.
IT WAS WRITING COMMITTEE, IS A COUPLE OF TIMES THAT
>> REALLY?
>> BIPARTISAN, BOTH PARTIES WORKING TOGETHER.
>> IMPORTANT TO KNOW NOT ONE DEMOCRAT VOTED FOR DOCTOR
THINK HE HAS A DIFFERENT DEFINITION OF BIPARTISAN.
BOTH PARTIES WORKING ON IT TOGETHER.
MAYBE YOU GUYS WORKED ON IT TOGETHER AND THEN THEY ALL
VOTED NO.
THAT WOULD MEET WAS THE BIPARTISAN.
THIS IS ONE OF THE MAIN LINES OF ATTACKS THE REPUBLICANS HAD
AGAINST OBAMA CARE.
THEY DIDN'T WORK WITH US, THEN REACH OUT TO US AT ALL
DIDN'T GET ANY REPUBLICAN VOTES.
YOU DIDN'T GET ANY DEMOCRATIC VOTES AND THAT IS NOT EVEN
SURE THEY WERE TOGETHER.
THEY DID REACH OUT TO DEMOCRATS AT ALL.
THEN ASKED HER OPINION, THEY DIDN'T MAKE ONE AMENDMENT
TO TRY TO GET ANY DEMOCRAT VOTES.
DIDN'T EVEN BOTHER JENNY JOE MANSIONS BOZO PARTY IS
READY TO GIVE IT TO THEM.
JUST GIVE ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE IT TO YOU.
IT'S JUST BECOME TOTALLY ARE WELL HE AND THAT THEY THINK IT
IS A MATTER WE BEEN ATTACKING THE PRESS SO MUCH, WE'LL JUST
LIE IN THE TELL YOU THAT THE PRESS IS LYING AND THEN WE WILL
GET OUR OWN KNUCKLEHEAD GUYS TO VOTE FOR US BUT THAT
CONGRESSMAN HAPPENS TO BE THE DISTRICT DEVOTED MORE FOR
HILLARY CLINTON AND DONALD TRUMP.
I THINK HE IS IN A WORLD TROUBLE AND DOESN'T EVEN KNOW IT.
>> A GETS EVEN A LITTLE BIT MORE DISGUSTING THAN THAT.
FOR SMALL DO EXPAND ON THE MEDICAID PROGRAM.
WHAT EXECUTIVE CHANGE THAT THE AH CH DOES NEED JUST COVER
MEDICAID, ENTERS THE REMAINING FUNDING INTO A BLOCK GRANT
FREE STATES AND FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS.
THIS WOULD ALLOW STATES TO CUT BENEFITS TO CHILDREN AND
ADULTS, CHARGE UNLIMITED PREMIUMS, DEDUCTIBLES,
COPAYMENTS AND DENY COVERAGE TO ELIGIBLE INDIVIDUALS THAT.
HE DESCRIBED AS THE PREVIOUS BENEFICIARIES WERE THE
INSURANCE COMPANIES AND NOW IT IS THE PEOPLE, THE PEOPLE
WANT THE STATES TO BE ABLE TO CHARGE A HIGHER DEDUCTIBLES
AND COPAYMENTS, I'M SURE.
BUT BEAR IN MIND SOME OF THE OTHER POINTS LIKE THE FACT
THAT RAPE AND PREGNANCY CAN BE CONSIDERED PRE-EXISTING
CONDITIONS THE WAY THEIR PRE-EXISTING CONDITIONS IN
GENERAL CAN RESULT IN YOU PAYING FAR MORE FOR YOUR HEALTH
INSURANCE, WE'RE TALKING THAT IS TWICE AS MUCH UNDER 100
TIMES OR MORE DEPENDING ON WHAT CONDITIONS YOU HAVE TO
UNDERSTAND WHO IS BEING TARGETED BY THIS NEW BUILD AND TAKE
A LOOK AT THIS AD FROM THE GOP THAT IS TRYING TO GET OUT
IN FRONT OF THE BACKLASH THAT PAUL RYAN IS GOING TO FIND
WHEN HE GOES BACK TO HIS HOME DISTRICT.
>> THE CUT THE DEFICIT AND PROVIDE $1
TRILLION OF JOB CREATING TAX RELIEF.
IT PUTS PATIENTS AND DOCTORS BACK IN CHARGE OF HEALTHCARE.
ELIMINATING WASHINGTON'S EXPENSIVE MANDATES AND
POWERING STATES TO REDUCE HEALTHCARE COSTS AND
PROTECTING PEOPLE WITH PRE-EXISTING CONDITIONS.
THE REPUBLICAN HEALTH PLAN PROVIDES FAMILIES WITH MORE
CHOICES, BETTER COVERAGE, AND LOWER PREMIUMS.
THINK PAUL RYAN AND HOUSE REPUBLICANS ARE KEEPING
THEIR WORD AND FIGHTING FOR THE HEALTHCARE WE DESERVED THAT
>> EVERYBODY IS SO HAPPY THAT THE MODEST TAKINGS OF YOU
WITH THE KID THAT I HOPE THE KID WASN'T BORN WITH SOME SORT
OF CANCER IS SOMETHING THAT SHE MIGHT FIND OUT THAT SHE IS
GOING TO PAY FAR MORE FOR HER HEALTH INSURANCE.
>> WINGED UNDERSTANDING REALLY IMPORTANT.
THE REPUBLICAN PLANETS WERE GOING TO GIVE ALL THE MONEY
TO THE RICH, IN THIS CASE, THE QUESTION OF TOM PRICE, WHO
BENEFITS AND WHO DOESN'T?
IS NOT JUST THE RICH, THE YOUNG AND HEALTHIER BENEFICIARIES
ARE OF THIS PLAN IS TRUE THAT THEIR PREMIUMS WILL GO DOWN
A LITTLE BIT THAT GOT HELP YOU IF YOU ARE OLD OR SICK OR
HAVE A PRE-EXISTING CONDITION, YOU ARE IN A WORLD OF HURT.
IF YOU LIGHT ON MEDICAID, YOU ARE NOT WELL OFF, YOU ARE
IN A WORLD OF HURT.
THERE'S ONE OTHER BENEFICIARY BESIDES THE YOUNG AND THE
HEALTHY, IT'S IN CREDIBLY WEALTHY.
THERE GOING TO GET A $756 BILLION TAX CUT AND THEN
AGAIN ATTORNEY GIVE A SMALL PERCENTAGE OF THAT'S THE
REPUBLICAN POLITICIANS WILL RUN ADS LIKE THAT AND THE PLAN
FOR REPUBLICANS AS IT DOES NOT MATTER.
WE PASS SOMETHING THAT HELPS OUR DONORS AND HURTS YOUR FAMILY AND
THEN WE DO AN AD WHERE WE PRETEND THAT IT HELPS YOUR
FAMILY AND WILL FILL IT WITH LOTS OF PEOPLE THAT ARE
AFRICAN-AMERICANS AND OLD PEOPLE, ETC.
AND FAMILIES AND
KIDS AND WE WILL PRETEND THAT WE ARE HELPING THEM AND WE
WILL PUT IN GIANT BOLD LETTERS THAT YOU WILL BE COVERED IF YOU
HAVE A
PRE-EXISTING CONDITION WHICH IS NOT TRUE.
THE STATES CAN ACTUALLY CUT IT, THEY HAVE THAT OPTION.
THEY THINK IT DOESN'T MATTER THAT WE WOULD JUST BUY TV ADS
FILLED WITH LIES WITH OUR DONOR MONEY AND THEN WE WILL WIND
UP WINNING THE ELECTIONS ANYWAYS I THINK BECAUSE OF THE INTERNET
THEY ARE IN FOR A RUDE AWAKENING BUT THAT HAS BEEN THEIR
PLAN FOR A LONG TIME.
>> I THINK IN THIS CASE EVEN WITHOUT THE INTERNET IS A
STUPID STRATEGY THAT IS GOING TO FAIL BECAUSE THE THING IS,
YOU CAN PULL A LOT OF STUFF OTHER PEOPLE IN AMERICA
THEORETICALLY BUT WHEN IT COMES TO THEIR HEALTHCARE, PEOPLE
KNOW HOW MUCH THEY PAY FOR THEIR DEDUCTIBLE.
THEY KNOW WHAT THEIR CO-PAY IS.
THEY UNDERSTAND IF
THEY HAVE HEALTH INSURANCE AT ALL IF IT'S TAKEN AWAY OR
THEIR WIFE IS THROWN OFF HEALTH INSURANCE, YOU CAN'T TRICK THEM
WITH AN AD THINKING THAT DIDN'T JUST HAPPEN.
THEIR FAMILY MEMBER DIES AS A RESULT OF THIS, I THINK IT
IS GOING TO BE ABUNDANT CLEAR IF THIS GOES INTO EFFECT IS
SADLY WHAT EFFECT IT HAS AND I DON'T THINK YOU CAN AD IT AWAY.
>> BUT BY THE TIME HE GOES INTO EFFECT AND THE STATE STARTS
TO TAKE AWAY THINGS LIKE COVERING PRE-EXISTING CONDITIONS
IT'S GOING TO BE THREE YEARS LATER AND THEY'RE GOING TO
THINK, I ALEADY WON A COUPLE OF ELECTIONS BY TRICKING YOU
BEFORE YOU FOUND OUT HOW BADLY I PULVERIZED YOUR HEALTHCARE.
TOO LATE.
I ALREADY SUCKERED YOU.
THAT IS THEIR M.O.
AND THEY'VE DONE IT FOR A LONG TIME HERE.
THE QUESTION IS WILL YOU BUY INTO IT BEFORE YOU REALIZE
ACTUAL REAL-LIFE EFFECTS BECAUSE AT SOME POINT, THERE IS A
REALITY.
FINALLY MICK MULVANEY WHO IS THE HEAD OF OFFICE
MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET FOR DONALD TRUMP HAD ANOTHER GREAT LINE.
HE SAID THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GET THE AFFORDABILITY THEY
DESERVE.
AND OTHER WORDS, IF YOU ARE ONE OF OUR DONORS YOU ARE GOING
TO GET AFFORDABILITY, IF YOU ARE NOT, YOU ARE GOING TO
GET THE AFFORDABILITY YOU DESERVE.
HE COULDN'T QUITE BRING HIMSELF TO BE LIKE THE REST OF THEM
AND SAY NO, IT IS GOING TO BE CHEAPER FOR EVERYBODY BECAUSE
HE KNOWS THAT IS NOT TRUTH.
INSTEAD HE SAYS IN THAT WAY.
THAT I THINK ACCIDENTALLY RUBS IN YOUR FACE.
>>
HE BASICALLY SAID YOU GET WHAT YOU DESERVE FROM HIS POINT OF
VIEW.
FOR ONCE THEY ARE BEING HONEST.