What’s up?
It’s Emile Ennis Jr. here with Clevver News and Taylor Swift just shared new details about
her famously private relationship with Joe Alwyn in a new interview with Paul McCartney
and Rolling Stone.
If you’ve been a fan of Taylor Swift for as long as we have, you’ve been along for
the ride that has had high highs and low lows when it comes to her relationships.
Many of which have been in the public eye.
But Taylor has handled her four year relationship with Joe Alwyn differently than the rest.
They hardly step out together in public and even when they do, they aren’t usually packing
on the PDA.
They’ve never shared a photo together on social media, despite them both being active
on their pages.
And when Taylor does talk about Joe, she hardly refers to him by name.
They have decided to completely control what we do and don’t know about their relationship,
with Taylor sharing some insight in her music and dropping a couple cute clips of them in
her documentary.
And we completely respect this decision to keep their private lives, well, more private.
But we can’t help but get excited any time Taylor does decide to share some insight on
their relationship because we love hearing how happy they are together.
In a new Rolling Stone cover story with Paul McCartney, Taylor and Paul interview each
other about their music, their songwriting processes, and writing under pseudonyms.
One particular part of the interview stood out to fans though when Paul asked Taylor
about her song “Peace” from her Folklore album.
In case you forgot, fans thought Peace was about Taylor asking Joe, who lives a relatively
normal life for an actor, if he would still choose to be with her even if that meant he'd
never have peace because of her level of A-list fame.
In the song she sings "All these people think love's for show/But I would die for you in
secret/The devil's in the details, but you got a friend in me/Would it be enough if I
could never give you peace?"
And now, Taylor confirmed to Paul that the song is about exactly what we thought it was
about, without naming Joe’s name, of course.
She said quote, “'Peace' is actually more rooted in my personal life.
I know you have done a really excellent job of this in your personal life: carving out
a human life within a public life, and how scary that can be when you do fall in love
and you meet someone, especially if you’ve met someone who has a very grounded, normal
way of living.”
Taylor continued on and explained that quote, “I, oftentimes, in my anxieties, can control
how I am as a person and how normal I act and rationalize things, but I cannot control
if there are 20 photographers outside in the bushes and what they do and if they follow
our car and if they interrupt our lives.
I can’t control if there’s going to be a fake weird headline about us in the news
tomorrow.”
Paul followed up by asking Taylor if her partner was understanding and sympathetic to this
complicated situation she sings about in Peace, and Taylor responded saying “oh absolutely.”
Taylor also goes into how her private relationship with Joe has changed her.
She revealed that quote, “I think that in knowing him and being in the relationship
I am in now, I have definitely made decisions that have made my life feel more like a real
life and less like just a storyline to be commented on in tabloids.
Whether that’s deciding where to live, who to hang out with, when to not take a picture
— the idea of privacy feels so strange to try to explain, but it’s really just trying
to find bits of normalcy.”
Taylor continued on and even brought up Paul McCartney’s fashion designer daughter Stella
McCartney who is Taylor’s friend and collaborator.
http Taylor said “That’s what that song 'Peace'
is talking about.
Like, would it be enough if I could never fully achieve the normalcy that we both crave?
Stella always tells me that she had as normal a childhood as she could hope for under the
circumstances.”
Later in the interview Paul also acknowledges that Taylor is known for "writing break up
songs like they were going out of style,” and wondered if that changed at all now that
she has been with Joe for so long.
Taylor explained that she doesn’t only write breakup songs about her own experiences saying
quote, “I was [known for writing breakup songs], before my luck changed.
I still write breakup songs.
I love a good breakup song.
Because somewhere in the world, I always have a friend going through a breakup, and that
will make me write one.”
So for anyone who was still wondering if any of the breakup songs on Folklore were about
Taylor and Joe, there’s your answer.
Seems like those two are stronger than ever and we love when she’s willing to share
bits and pieces about their love story with us.
If you want more on Taylor and Joe and how them moving in together inspired her Lover
album, click right over here for another Clevver News video.
Also, let us know down in the comments below what you think about Taylor’s new interview
with Paul McCartney.
I’m your host Emile Ennis Jr., bye guys!