>> Stephen: HEY, EVERYBODY!
WELCOME BACK TO THE SHOW ALREADY IN PROGRESS!
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, MY FIRST GUEST IS A THREE-TIME
GRAMMY AWARD-WINNING SINGER WHO HAS SOLD OVER 50 MILLION RECORDS
WORLDWIDE.
HIS NEW BOOK IS "GRIT AND GRACE."
PLEASE WELCOME, TIM MCGRAW.
( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) ( BAND PLAYING )
>> RIGHT ON!
>> Stephen: GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN.
>> YOU, TOO.
HOW ARE YOU?
>> Stephen: I'M DOING WELL, HOW ARE YOU DOING?
>> I'M DOING FANTASTIC.
>> Stephen: LAST TIME YOU WERE ON HERE YOU WERE HERE WITH YOUR
CO-AUTHOR JON MEACHAM.
>> I WAS CARRYING HIM.
>> Stephen: EXACTLY.
TRYING TO TEACH HIM A FEW THINGS ABOUT HISTORY.
>> Stephen: EXACTLY.
I THINK OF YOU AS AN AUTHOR.
YOU HAVE A BOOK WITH MEACHAM, NOW YOU HAVE "GRIT AND GRACE,"
WHICH WE'LL GET TO IN JUST A MOMENT.
>> IT'S THE SEQUEL TO "GETS AND GRAVY."
>> Stephen: YOU WILL NEED THIS BOOK.
YOU WILL NEED THIS BOOK AFTER THE "GRITS AND GRAVY."
NOW, HOW IS YOUR COWBOY HAT?
BECAUSE WE LOVE HAVING YOU ON THE SHOW, BUT MY LIGHTING GUY
LOVES HAVING YOUR COWBOY HAT ON.
>> IT HIDES MY EYES.
>> Stephen: EXACTLY.
I WALKED OUT OF THE HOTEL -- WHO KNEW PAPARAZZI SMOKED SO
MUCH DOPE?
( LAUGHTER ) YOU DID?
OKAY, BECAUSE I'M TELLING YOU, IT WAS PERMEATING THE PLACE WHEN
I WALKED OUT.
AND IT'S NOT AN EXCUSE, TRUST ME.
I'M NOT COVERING FOR MYSELF, BUT THEY WERE LIT UP.
>> Stephen: YEAH.
AND WERE THEY UPSET THAT YOU WEAR A HAT BECAUSE YOU COVER
YOUR FACE?
>> IT'S BEEN PART OF MY ROUTINE FOR A LONG TIME.
I GREW UP IN LOUISIANA.
I WAS AN ATHLETE AND PART OF MY TIME I SPENT IN HIGH SCHOOL
RODEO.
>> Stephen: WHAT WAS YOUR EVENT?
>> I WAS A BARE BACK RIDER.
>> Stephen: HOW ABOUT IN THE RODEO, WHAT DID YOU DO?
( LAUGHTER ) ( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE )
>> IT WASN'T VERY GOOD BUT THAT'S WHAT I DID.
>> Stephen: YOU WEREN'T VERY GOOD?
HOW ABOUT IN THE RODEO?
>> STILL NOT VERY GOOD AT EITHER ONE.
BUT I TRY HARD.
I KEEP TRYING.
>> Stephen: I BET, I BET.
I'VE GOT THREE KIDS.
YOU KNOW, SOMETHING WORKED.
>> Stephen: ( PIANO RIFF )
( LAUGHTER ) >> Stephen: SOMETHING WORKED.
I FEEL VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS.
>> I BROUGHT YOU A PRESENT.
>> Stephen: BROUGHT ME A COWBOY HAT RIGHT HERE.
( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) AM I BEARING THAT LOW ENOUGH?
>> YEAH, IT'S JUST RIGHT, MAN.
YOU CAN MAKE A RECORD NOW.
THERE YOU GO.
IT'S A LITTLE SMALL.
>> Stephen: IT IS A LITTLE SMALL.
I'VE GOT A LARGER HEAD THAN YOU.
>> WELL, YOU'VE HAD A LOT MORE SUCCESS.
>> Stephen: I HAVE NOT SOLD 50 MILLION ALBUMS -- YET.
I DON'T THINK THESE GO WITH IT.
I DON'T THINK THE GLASSES GO WITH IT.
>> TAKE THE GLASSES OFF.
NOW YOU'RE COOL.
( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) >> Stephen: WELL YOU KNOW WHO
WE CALL THIS MAN OVER HERE, WE CALL HIM THE JAZZ COWBOY.
>> RIGHT ON, MAN.
HE'S FANTASTIC.
>> Stephen: YEAH.
THAT WHOLE BAND IS FANTASTIC.
ARE YOU KID MEG?
KILLER.
( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) >> Stephen: YOU HAVE BEEN PART
OF COUNTRY MUSIC, I'M GUESSING YOUR WHOLE LIFE, BUT YOU HIT THE
SCENE IN 1992.
WHEN WERE YOU FIRST EXPOSED?
I ASSUME YOU GROWING UP IN LOUISIANA YOU HEARD FRIT AN
EARLY AGE.
>> MY MOM WORKED AT SORT OF A BUS STOP CAFE WHEN SHE WAS YOUNG
BEFORE SHE GOT MARRIED.
I WAS LESS THAN A YEAR OLD AND I WAS IN A PLAYPEN SITTING NEXT TO
A JUKEBOX.
AND WHEN SHE MET MY STEP-DAD -- >> Stephen: ARE YOU WRITING A
COUNTRY SONG NOW?
SOUNDS LIKE A HIT.
>> MY STEP-DAD DROVE AN 18 WHILER AND I REMEMBER I WAS
FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN YEARS OLD RIDING IN AN 18 WHEELER AND
HAULING COTTON ACROSS LOUISIANA AND TEXAS AND LISTENING TO
GEORGE JUNE AND MEL AND CHARLIE PRIDE EIGHT TRACKS AND THAT WAS
MY YOUNGEST INTRODUCTION TO COUNTRY MUSIC.
>> Stephen: DID YOU SAY MERYL STREEP?
>> SHE PROBABLY SOLD MORE RECORDS THAN I DO.
( LAUGHTER ) >> Stephen: WHEN DID YOU SING
ON STAGE?
>> I WAS IN A PENTECOSTAL CHURCH IN JIGGER, LOUISIANA.
IT WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF COTTON FIELDS LIKE A WHITE CLAPBOARD
CHURCH AND THAT'S WHERE WE WENT TO CHURCH ALL THE TIME.
A KID NAMED JOEY AND I GOT IN A FIGHT OVER THE MICROPHONE AT THE
FRONT OF THE CHURCH SINGING THIS LITTLE LIGHT OF MINE.
>> Stephen: LET ME GUESS WHO WON.
>> I WON, YEAH.
>> Stephen: WOW.
BUT MUSIC AND CHURCH HAVE BEEN A PART OF MY LIFE.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, WE MOVED INTO THE BIG TOWN OF RAYVILLE
OUT OF JIGGER, LOUISIANA.
>> Stephen: SURE, THAT'S BIG TIME.
THEY HAD A STOPLIGHT, RIGHT?
>> RAYVILLE HAD A COUPLE OF STOPLIGHTS, BUT JIG DIDN'T HAVE
ANY, AND STARK WHERE I ENDED UP LATER HAD ONE CAUTION LIGHT.
AFTER THE PENTECOSTAL CHURCH FOR A LONG TIME, WE'RE STANDING UP
ON THE PEWS, WE'RE SINGING, HANDS RAISED, EVERYBODY IS
CLAPPING, OUR AUNT BARBARA TAKES US TO THE FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH
OF RAYVILLE.
I WAS FOUR YEARS OLD.
MY LITTLE SISTER WAS THREE AND I DON'T KNOW EVEN KNOW IF MY
YOUNGER SISTER WAS BORN YET.
WE GO TO CHURCH AND WERE SITTING IN THE PEWS AND WE WERE JUMPING
ON THE PEWS SINGING AND CLAPPING.
MY AUNT NEARLY HAD A HEART ATTACK AND SAID YOU CAN'T DO
THAT IN THE BAPTIST CHURCH, THAT'S ONLY FOR THE PENTECOSTAL
UMP CH.
( LAUGHTER ) >> Stephen: DID YOU KNOW YOU
WOULD BE A SINGER AT A YOUNG AGE?
>> I WAS AN ATHLETE GROWING UP.
I KNEW EVERY SONG ON THE RADIO.
I PLAYED SPORTS ALL THROUGH HIGH SCHOOL.
UNFORTUNATELY I DIDN'T GROW ENOUGH TO PURSUE ATHLETICS.
>> Stephen: YOU'RE PRETTY BIG GUY.
>> WELL, OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL AND INTO COLLEGE IS A DIFFERENT
GAME.
HAD A FEW OFFERS.
GOT INTO COLLEGE, JOINED A FRATERNITY, PICKED UP A GUITAR
AND STARTED PLAYING.
I WAS IN PRE-LAW IN COLLEGE, BELIEVE IT OR NOT.
>> Stephen: I BELIEVE IT.
WHAT I'M FIGURING OUT IS NOW I'VE BEEN IN THE MUSIC BUSINESS,
I'VE PAID MORE LAWYERS THROUGHOUT MY CAREER THAN I
WOULD HAVE MADE IN THREE LIFETIMES AS A LAWYER.
>> Stephen: YOU'VE GOT THE NEW BOOK, IT'S CALLED "GRIT AND
GRACE," AND THIS IS -- IS THIS YOUR LIFESTYLE AND FITNESS
ROUTINE?
>> IT IS, AND IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF MY STORY, A LITTLE BIT OF,
YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE LOW PARTS OF MY LIFE AND SOME OF THE
DRIVING INFLUENCES I HAD OF WHY I DECIDED TO GET INTO SHAPE AND
WHY I DECIDED TO START TAKING CARE OF MYSELF HALFWAY THROUGH.
>> Stephen: YOU ARE IN SHAPE.
LET ME SHOW YOU A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES, UNLESS YOU WANT TO
JUST RIP OFF THE SHIRT RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE --
( CHEERING ) HERE'S YOU ABOUT TO BOOT STOMP
AN AUDIENCE FOR SOME REASON.
THAT'S EITHER JUMPING IN OR OUT, NOT ENTIRELY SURE.
>> JUMPING ACROSS.
>> Stephen: JUMPING ACROSS THE AUDIENCE.
AND THIS IS -- >> THIS IS YOUR FAVORITE
PICTURE, RIGHT?
>> Stephen:.
>> Stephen: THIS IS, RIGHT HERE --
( CHEERING ) TIM McGRAW, BIG QUESTION, IS
THIS A RECENT PHOTO?
>> LAST TWO YEARS AGO ON TOUR.
>> Stephen: OKAY.
YOU ARE IN YOUR 50s.
>> I'M 52.
>> Stephen: STOP IT.
JUST ON BEHALF OF OTHER 50-YEAR-OLD MEN, PLEASE STOP.
WHY NEED YOU DO THIS?
>> HAVE YOU SEEN MY WIFE?
>> Stephen: I HAVE SEEN YOUR WIFE.
SHE'S HERE RIGHT THERE.
>> I WANT TO HANG ON TO HER.
>> Stephen: THE THING IS ABOUT THIS, HAS THIS ALWAYS BEEN THE
WAY YOU ARE OR IS THIS LATE ONSET AB-ING?
DOES THIS COME IN LIKE WISDOM TEETH LATE ON IN LIFE?
>> WHEN YOU PHOTO SHOP AN ALBUM COVER, THAT'S WHAT THAT IS.
>> Stephen: SO WHY DID YOU GET IN SHAPE?
>> I SPENT A LOT OF TIME LIVING THE WRONG LIFESTYLE ON THE ROAD
AND NOT TAKING CARE OF MYSELF LIKE I SHOULD.
I HAD A GREAT LIFE.
I WAS DOING MOVIES, SELLING RECORDS.
>> Stephen: YEAH.
I WAS SELLING RECORDS BACK IN THE DAY, TICKETS WERE GREAT, AND
I WASN'T TAKING CARE OF MYSELF AND I WASN'T LIVING UP TO THE
EXPECTATIONS OF MY FAMILY AND THE PEOPLE WHO WORKED FOR ME.
>> Stephen: WHAT WAS THE MOMENT, THOUGH.
>> A COUPLE OF MOMENTS.
WHEN YOUR WIFE TELLS YOU YOU NEED TO GET YOUR -- YOUR STUFF
TOGETHER -- >> Stephen: YEAH.
YOU TEND TO TRY TO GET IT TOGETHER.
>> Stephen: I'VE HAD THAT CONVERSATION.
( LAUGHTER ) >> EXACTLY.
I TOOK MY KIDS TO A HOLIDAY MOVIE, I WAS SITTING THERE
WATCHING THE MOVIE.
I HAD JUST DONE A MOVIE AND DIDN'T EXPECT MINE TO SHOW UP.
WE SIT THERE AND THE FIRST THING THAT CAME ON THE SCREEN IS THE
MOVIE I HAD JUST DONE AND MY FACE WAS ON A 100' FOOT SCREEN
AND MY DAUGHTER LOOKS OVER AT ME AND SAID, JEEZ, DAD, YOU NEED TO
DO SOMETHING.
>> Stephen: HOW OLD WAS SHE?
HE'S 22 NOW, SO PROBABLY 11 YEARS OLD AT THE TIME.
>> Stephen: THAT SOUNDS RIGHT.
BUT IT SAID A LOT MORE TO ME THAN JUST JEEZ, DAD, YOU NEED TO
DO SOMETHING.
IT SAID TO ME I NEED TO PAY ATTENTION TO MY LI LIFESTYLE AND
SHE THOUGHT I NEEDED TO CHANGE SOMETHING AND CHANGE THE WAY I
WAS CONDUCTING MYSELF.
>> Stephen: AND YOU DID IT, WROTE IT DOWN IN A BOOK AND YOU
CAN LIVE THE SAME LIFESTYLE YOURSELF.
"GRIT AND GRACE" IS AVAILABLE NOW.
TIM McGRAW, EVERYBODY.
WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH SENATOR SHERROD BROWN!