- Hey everybody, this is Klaus from Plant Based News
in rainy London.
So in today's video,
we're gonna be talking about athletes
who not only refuse to believe that vegans can be healthy,
but go a step further by refusing to train them.
First off is movement coach and internet personality,
Ido Portal,
who revealed his feelings about the vegan diet
in an interview on the channel RawBrahs in 2013.
- I cannot promote that,
and I actually refuse to work with vegans.
In some level,
I refuse to work with them.
You wanna become the sorcerer,
eat a vegan diet.
You wanna become the warrior or the hunter,
you eat meat.
I can be rude,
I can have a dirty mouth,
I'm not politically correct always,
and I will say things very directly.
- I don't know if you heard that clip,
but he basically just alluded to the idea
that by eating meat
gives him a kind of hunter, warrior mentality
which allows him to be rude and swear a lot,
as if these are characteristics
that humans should strive for.
It makes no sense.
Next up on the list is the late Charles Poliquin,
who's commonly known as the Strength King.
The Olympic athlete coach insisted
that being a high performance athlete
on a vegan diet is impossible,
and had only seen athletes kicked off teams
as a result of making the switch.
He even said that vegans have lower IQs
and that by going vegan,
you actually lower your IQ.
- Have you trained vegan athletes?
- No, impossible.
People who choose veganism,
they have lower IQs.
People who go vegan,
lower their IQs.
- Anyway, next up on our list
is the self-proclaimed health and fitness guru,
Vince Del Monte,
who said this about the vegan diet back in 2015.
- I refuse to work with anybody who is a plant based eater.
If their goal is to build muscle, improve health,
to do anything, period,
to lose fat,
to be honest,
I feel like you're wasting my time.
- Vince didn't believe that anything was possible
on a vegan diet.
I guess the best example of how he was wrong
was a couple of years later
when "The Game Changers" documentary came out.
The work put in by James Wilks,
the co-producer and face of "The Game Changers," however,
was still not enough to convince another character,
Joe Rogan, of the benefits
of consuming a whole food plant based diet.
- I did the carnivore diet for all of January.
I don't know if I'm gonna keep eating like this.
Tell you what's bad about it first,
diarrhea is rough,
and eating only steak gets boring.
- It's kind of interesting that he's so anti-vegan,
especially given the fact that he actually hosted the debate
between James Wilks and Chris Kresser.
- You admit that a tablespoon of peanut butter
is four grams, right?
Okay, and what is four times five?
- [Chris] 20.
- Five plus five is, Chris?
- [Chris] 10.
- Plus 20 from the peanut butter is?
- [Chris] 30.
Why are you comparing 24 grams to 30 grams?
Why didn't you say four tablespoons of peanut butter.
Fair enough?
- [Chris] Fair enough.
- Got it wrong again.
Can we get slide 20, slide 22,
slide 46, 51.
First of all, B12 as an argument, smashed that,
protein is the next argument.
I've just smashed the protein quantity argument,
and now we're getting to the quality.
All of the statements that I made in the film are true,
and you said that they were patently false,
and you were wrong.
107, slide 107.
Do you honestly feel qualified to read even a single paper?
- I don't know the details.
- But you don't know how to read a forest plot.
- [Chris] I've taken.
- I'm sorry, I'm sorry,
it's almost like comedy.
- Another critic of the vegan diet
that I really can't imagine training with any vegans
any time soon is Dr. Paul Saladino.
- So much of what we're looking at here with meat,
it's been wrongly vilified.
You're making these claims
that meat is going to increase the risk of breast cancer
or colon cancer,
this is completely false and unfounded.
Meat and animal foods
are the most nutrient rich foods on the planet
that humans have been eating throughout our evolution.
- This approach has no formal basis
in any scientific literature
but has gained a massive amount of traction
over the last year or two
thanks at least partly
due to the contributions of Shawn Baker.
And if you're looking at him going, wow,
this guy's a massive meat head, yes,
he's a huge advocate of animal based foods.
Funnily enough, a couple of years ago,
after spending one year on the carnivore diet,
he partially published his blood work on the internet.
And to no surprise,
a number of key health indicators were off the charts.
Even meat eating coaches
are starting to realize how crazy
these anti vegan positions are starting to become.
The zealots of carnivores
are some of the most critically thinking devoid people
I've ever had the displeasure of coming across.
Keto zealots, low carb zealots,
clean eating zealots,
alkaline diet, just I could go on and on.
- But anyway, the point of this video is to say that, yeah,
there are still some crazy diets
like the carnival or keto diet in rotation in our society,
but it's now a rarity
to see online fitness gurus outright dis the benefits
of a wholefood plant based diet.
Before, because of the TV commercials
and the meat and dairy funded studies
that got published in our media,
it was common for people to genuinely think
we needed animal protein to survive.
And so because of that,
people go, "Oh,
"you can't be a vegan athlete.
"Where are you gonna get your protein?
"Where are you gonna get your calcium?"
But now times are changing, right?
There's more vegan athletes,
veganism is more widely received and acknowledged
in the mainstream.
So yeah, hope you enjoyed the video, guys,
from rainy Hyde Park.
I'll see you very soon.