Well, last time I saw you, Chicago was not here.
She was not.
She was still in the surrogate's belly.
In the belly.
And you were worried about what that
was going to be like, because you'd never
done it that way before.
We didn't know anyone that's done it like that before.
It was really scary.
And what was it like in the delivery room?
It was, honestly, anyone that has ever
been considering surrogacy, I always
said, kind of wait till I'm done.
I want to see what this birthing experience is like.
The best experience.
The moment she was getting the epidural, I was like,
thank god this is not me.
It was so easy.
She's so amazing.
I've become good friends with her.
The surrogate.
Yeah.
She's so sweet.
Her family's great.
It was such an easy experience.
My deliveries were really bad.
Always surgeries afterwards and crazy, scary things.
And it was just such a breeze.
And when the baby came out, it was like--
I made Kourtney be in the room.
We had a connecting room.
And Kanye was in there playing Connect Four with his friends.
And not really paying attention.
And I was like, Kourtney, I need you to be here with me.
Because I need-- if there's a medical something, I you you.
It's your sister.
You need a support system.
So it was great.
It was so easy.
And the second she came out, any fear that I had of,
will I not have this connection?
Will she not look like me?
All of that goes out the door.
And instantly, she's ours.
Yeah.
I knew it would.
I knew you were worried about that.
And I thought, there's no--
first of all, look at that.
She's such a cutie.
She really is such a cutie.
As soon as she came out--
I stood on this end of the surrogate.
I didn't really want to see too much of what was going on.
But enough to be there and support her.
Right.
So I was behind her shoulder.
And the second the baby came out,
her whole body wasn't even out.
Just up to her waist.
And she put her arms out like this,
and she was like, I'm here.
It was so cute.
That's so cute.
So her name is Chicago.
Yes.
But you told me that you wanted a one syllable--
when I was pitching names, you said you wanted one syllable.
And I did.
Right.
So Chicago is not one syllable.
Yeah.
It kind of messes with me.
I'm not going to lie.
I really like the one syllable thing.
Did you have a name picked out?
It was between-- we were going to name her Jo,
because my grandma, Mary Jo.
So we were going to go with Jo.
Or we were going to go with Grace.
And then it was Chicago.
But--
[LAUGHTER]
We ended up with Chicago.
Because Kanye wanted Chicago?
Because he's from there?
I don't even know how the name--
I mean, obviously, because he's from Chicago.
But that is a place that made him.
And a place that he remembers his family from.
He really wanted his mother's name.
And I love that name, too.
I just wasn't sure if it's so much to live up to.
What was his mom's name?
Donda.
That wasn't in the one syllable either.
But I just felt like Chicago was cool and different.
It is cool and different.
Yeah.
So you can still narrow it down to--
So we call her Chi.
You do call her Chi.
Yeah.
We call her Chi.
So it's North, Saint, and Chi.
So she is-- and did he stop playing
Connect Four at some point?
I love that game, by the way.
I love Connect Four.
It's his favorite game.
He's the best at it.
Is he?
I'm so bad at it.
I'm really good at games, despite what you've heard.
So we'll talk about that later, I'm sure.
All right.
Because I have to talk to you about what
Steve Harvey said about me.
And I would like to play game with you
so you can prove it to me, because I love
playing games, as you know.
Yeah.
We'll talk about that later.
I know what you're talking about.
And North is a good big sister?
You were worried about that too.
You didn't think she would share so well.
She's better.
Than when?
She's better than she was with Saint.
It was a shocking moment yesterday.
She literally had a can of popcorn, and was like, Saint,
do you want some?
And I was like, what?
You don't understand.
She does not share with Saint, she
does not hardly talk to Saint.
So that was such a big moment in my household yesterday.
Well, sure.
But yes, she's--
Was Saint shocked by that too?
He wasn't, actually.
I was shocked he wasn't shocked.
There were two shocks in a row.
Wow.
A shock followed by a shock.
And I'm going to say, I'm shocked right now.
And then I think the audience is going to be shocked.
Because I heard in the meeting that Saint
is-- how old is Saint?
Two?
Two.
OK.
He just turned two.
Saint can spell the word gargantuan.
Yes.
He can.
Well, I don't believe you.
And none of us believe you.
No, no.
I swear.
First of all, if you--
I've never seen a child speak the way he speaks.
He has such amazing vocabulary.
And I know it's like such a Kanye thing
to say, like, oh, my kid's a genius.
But if I'm saying it's, then it's real, you know?
Right.
So if you ask him, Saint, how do you spell your name?
He'll say, S A I N T, W E S T. He fully knows how to spell.
Gargantuan was-- it was there, and there was the letters.
And he put them in place.
So he didn't actually say, G--
I don't even know how to spell it myself.
[LAUGHTER]
And who's helping him with words like gargantuan?
I was.
You were.
So the word gargantuan was there,
and then he put the letters--
Yes.
He matched all the letters to gargantuan.
That's very impressive.
Yeah.
I was very impressed.
Right.
Shocked.
So you're saying he's smarter than North.
[LAUGHS]
North can do it too.
Not at that age.
Yeah.
Well, she can now.
He's nicer than North.
I will say that.
Yes.
He loves his little sister.
He's so sweet with her.
I always have to watch out for him.
He smothers her.
And he has this really big hair, so he just jumps in her crib.
Like that was a sweet moment.
But usually, it's his big hair is all over her face
and I get worried.
Look how precious.
Yeah, his hair is adorable.
But they are so sweet.