Greetings nerdy list aficionados and welcome back to top 10 nerd people superheroes specifically
going too far we’re going to talk about all of it also some of the limericks in the
comments of part 2 were hilarious.
And quick note some of you have been asking what does aficionados mean why are you making
up words aficionado actually means an enthusiastic fan with a slightly above average zeal and
knowledge so you’re being complimented.
I appreciate that you think I would flex hard enough to just make up a word though that’s
flattering.
Now as with last time you may not feel that these heroes are going too far you may think
they haven’t gone far enough.
As always mileage varies let us just enjoy all of these moments cause well they’re
all something.
I’m Sasha and these are the top 10 times superheroes went too far part 3.
Let’s get started.
Number 10 - Superman kills Zod – No not that one time
no clark has killed zod before there was a precedent but not as a member of the neck
snap club.
So in the 1980s John Byrne rebooted superman in the comic his origin was retold some characterisations
were retooled etc if was a new era for the man of steel he was a different man than the
super jerk of the silver age and early bronze age.
This new origin was actually far more in line with the 1978 movie and it’s 1980 sequel
than anything else particularly in depictions of Krypton.
So Clark when he learned of other kyptonians and their histories and about Zod and decided
that he was going to carry out the sentences that had been handed down to them and so he
executed Zod in the Phantom Zone with green kryptonite and proceeded to have much angst
about it.
He even exiled himself to space cause you know death matters.
So this went too far cause well it took superman out of commission the earth was just there
cause of this when he could have just left them in the Zone I mean Zod came back anyway
via retcon so way to waste a death.
Number 9 - Flashpoint Barry Allen – So Flashpoint is the event that leads directly into the
new 52 and it was all started off cause Barry decided he had to go save his mom.
Now on one level that’s super sweet but on another was he replaced by a pod person.
When you’re a superhero who deals in the mystic and the super science on the regular
you know that time travel is not something you should mess with an always has zany consequences
it’s never something little like cinnamon rolls are now the national dish it’s always
oh you’re not the flash and bruce wayne died and Atlantis and themiscyra are about
to destroy the world.
So yeah Barry created a separate timeline that even erased his protogee wally west from
existence along with so many kids and families cause his mom was dead.
He was clearly not following the Vulcan creed about the needs of the many.
The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one unless it’s your mom
am I right up top.
Number 8 - Spider-Man Rips Off A Face For Kaine – spider -Man peter parker and kaine
have an interesting relationship Kaine is one of his clones from the clone saga and
was initially a crazed unstable killer capable of the mark of Caine which was where he used
acid hands to burn off people’s faces.
So it would come as a shock to some that during the Spider-Man: Grim Hunt Kaine would end
up sacrificing himself for Peter who was being hunted by the family of Kraven the hunter
and Peter was wearing his alien symbiote costume at the time so you know what that means he’s
hyper aggressive peter so he hunts down kraven’s daughter well the whole family but he ends
up ripping off her face as a kind of that’s for you kaine for you buddy.
I took her face off.
Just intense this is one of those modern black symbiote suit stories so they were upping
the ante a little.
Number 7 - Booster Gold The Gift Another time traveler abusing their power look time travel
really just needs to be given to voyeurs no people who are going to mess with stuff do
you want to wake up with fish hands cause this is how you wake up with fish hands.
So the gift storyline for many was when they started to question…is tom king ok.
This started in batman 45 in the lead up to the bat cat wedding that never happened Booster
got Bruce a gift a horrible alternate timeline because he made it so that Bruce Wayne’s
parents didn’t die in an alley.
Listen booster there are some heroes who can have their origins altered and some who can’t
superman batman and spider-man leave them alone.
The effects of this timeline were weird too there still was a batman but it was dick and
Selina couldn’t speak for some reason and was all hisses and grunts it sure was a story
that I read.
Time travel plots are hard to pull off and they’re not all created equal there are
so many at this point that when it flops or is just meh it stands out.
Booster next time just get him a normal gift like a tie or a coupon for a massage.
Number 6 - Daredevil Becomes Kingpin So daredevil has been fighting crime in hell’s kitchen
for quite some time now and sometimes it gets to him, it’s all too much such was the case
during the Bendis run when he came to hell’s kitchen beat kingpin within an inch of his
life and went look at me I’m the kingpin now.
That’s right he took over hell’s kitchen now some of you may be saying earned how is
this going too far well it was the fallout like all the gangs or even the kingpin were
going to take this lying down not likely.
So there was a lot of collateral damage from this and Matt would even have his identity
revealed it was all really intense.
It’s a favourite arc for many but still too far matty too far.
Number 5 - Spider-Man Stabbed Deadpool So Spider-man and Deadpool had a team-up series
spider-man/Deadpool and for a period vs when they weren’t as good friends so during this
whole thing which largely occurred because of the pairs popularity as a ship people love
them some spideypool and the comic does at times pander, but back to the point Deadpool
is bending over backwards to prove to spidey what a good person he is how worthy of his
friendship he is to the point where he’s willing to be a punching bag for peter’s
issues.
Peter well he’s working through some things including like feeling part of his life is
wrong or missing thanks mephisto.
And at one point when he;s careening more into violence and Deadpool calls him out for
it he stabs him right through the chest he actually kills him but it’s Deadpool so
he gets better.
Peter played pretty fast and lose with deadpool’s healing factor in this series.
Stabbing your friends too far.
Number 4 - Professor X Fakes His Own Death – So we have so many professor x moments
to choose from and I went with this early one from Uncanny X-Men #42 where professor
x dies in the arms of his devastated x-men but psyche he wasn’t actually dead the x-men
these teens and young adults just go it alone for 20 issues then he shows back up and was
like I was in the basement he hid in the basement the entire time cause he was planning for
an alien invasion.
The person who actually died was changeling a reformed villain who wanted to redeem himself
before dying of a terminal illness.
So professor x was like wanna help me fake my death hero style.
So too things you could have just told them to leave you alone and then subtly pushed
them to with your powers 2 you could read their thoughts like all that mourning from
the basement and were just like nope I’m staying down here.
That’s ice cold.
Number 3 - Reed The Council Of Reed’s – So you’ve heard about the council of Reed’s
where Reed joined up through a council of Reeds.
So this council was formed by 3 reeds all with infinity gauntlets and eventually the
616 reed joins but they ended up in a battle with the celestials and most of the reeds
died in this battle now reed deactivated the bridge after finding he couldn’t give up
his family the way the others had.
So well how is this too far he didn’t tell his family and one day his daughter valeria
snuck into the lab and reactivated the bridge and so like the last 4 reeds who had survived
crossed over and died.
Tell your family things so they don’t accidentally unleash evil.
Number 2 - Ms Marvel Teenage Gestapo – So Ms Marvel got pulled into civil war 2 just
like everyone else but in her book it got weird.
Now Ms Marvel really looks up to carol Danvers she used to want to be her hence her taking
on the name when she got her embiggen terrigen mist powers.
But when Carol shows up in her books it’s for civil war 2 purposes and to tell her to
be part of what’s basically a teeNAGE GESTAPO.
So a group of teens going around and policing their friends and neighbors arresting them
taking them in their homes and taking them to a warehouse prison in the town.
And at first Ms Marvel is like let’s do this and yup people get arrested it’s just
this whole arc she eventually backs out but she’s still scarily loyal to carol she will
lie to her family and beyond for her and carol makes her it’s just did people think the
implications of all this through.
The worst part about this and why both she and it went too far is that it derailed the
book this even just stopped it cold and it took awhile to get back on track.
It’s a bad look.
So what’s worse than arresting your friends before they do anything cause you were just
following orders well.
Number 1 – Wally West Heroes In Crisis – So just everything with heroes in crisis vacillated
so much some of it was really good and some of it was just terrible.
So heroes in crisis was largely a murder mystery so spoilers.
But we finally discover that the person who killed all the people at this secret sanctuary
therapy session location was Wally West beloved flash from the late 80s and early 90s who
Dan Didio has been trying to kill for at least a decade.
Wally read through all the patient files of the sanctuary at once even though the files
were supposed to be deleted and all that angst and out of characterless for some of the people
made him go insane he lashed out and killed then time travelled to kill himself later
in the timeline and bring that body back to cover it up.
Ladies and gentlemen the hero who brought us rebirth.
This whole thing was just a slap in the face for Wally fans and for many a forced pathos.
And just too far Wally was a hero and a kind soul it just all felt very contrived.
Lots of heroes in crisis does and some of the continuity is really wonky.
Now some people love this arc and that’s great everyone is approaching comics from
a different stance and perspective but as someone who had wally as the flash their entire
life until Barry’s rebirth in the early 2000s #notmywally.
So those were ten more times that superheroes went too far did you agree or did these heroes
not go far enough.
Let me know any we missed down below I’m Sasha and thanks so much for watching top
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