- Assess and evaluate-
(camera clicks)
from a good friend of mine that we're gonna eventually-
(upbeat music)
Now, come and meet my pack.
(dogs barking)
Large audience today out here at the DPC at the ranch.
Look at all the people, everybody came.
We're gonna see how Andre and Sugar assess and evaluate
this new pitbull from a good friend of mine
that we're gonna eventually put into the jail system.
- [Men] Pawsitive Change, Pawsitive Change.
- That one.
Sounds better jail system.
So today is gonna be Andre's assessment and evaluation.
I want him to tell me where she is,
how she feels, and how intense.
Low, medium, high.
And if he has some kinda plan, some kinda formula
that he would like for us to apply,
I'm gonna listen to that.
And then of course I'm gonna ask Calvin to do the same.
So it's assessment, evaluation, introduction,
and coming up with a plan.
It feels like she is the Orange Is the New Black, you know.
One of those girls.
Who is she?
- [Andre] Piper Chapman.
- Piper Chapman, that's right, that's Piper Chapman.
Piper Chapman, you are a pitbull today.
- So today I'm gonna do an assessment
that my dad is evaluating me on.
So we have a pitbull that was surrendered to us,
because the dog was not compatible
with its environment at home.
So now we are going to rehabilitate this dog
and once we are done rehabilitating this dog,
we are going to surrender her into a good job
and she's going to be a working dog,
working with prisoners in the Pawsitive Change Program.
Just a little inside information,
I have actually been working with the dog
prior to this kind of little evaluation my dad's doing.
I work here during the week at the ranch
and I've kind of dipped my toes in the water,
just kind of hanging out with her
and trying to see what she's good with,
what she's not good with,
what she's uncomfortable with.
So I kind of already have a little head start,
but today I'm gonna actually jump in
and really get into it and kinda really see instead of,
you know now that I have my dad who's gonna help me
and assist me throughout the whole way
so I'm not missing any spaces.
So right now what I'm doing
is allowing her to use-
- [Cesar] Clap, clap, clap.
(clapping)
Clap, clap, clap, clap.
There you go, clap, clap, clap.
There you go, there you go.
- Surrender.
- [Cesar] Touch, touch, touch.
Nurture that.
Super, surrender, super sweet.
Super vulnerable.
Okay?
So surrender, sweet, vulnerable.
Why did I ask you to clap?
- To encourage the-
- [Cesar] Because she was unsure, like to get her excited,
so that's when you use the sound.
Don't use the sound if the brain is too excited
or is not excited.
Get it?
Too excited, don't use sound.
If it's not excited, don't use sound.
That's right.
Wait until the brain goes from-
(clapping)
that vibration makes it come out.
So you're using nose, eyes, ears
and bring it out.
So that way you don't put a leash.
You make the brain come out.
We are moving with her as fast as she's moving.
So you have the creativity and the openness
has to be a hundred percent.
So your mind has to be open, your creativity has to be open.
If you move slower.
This is a very important moment right there.
Sugar is also letting us know how she feel.
You can see the eyes is still a little concerned,
she's concerned.
Some people say, well she's sweet, she is vulnerable,
she is in a surrender state,
but it's still concerned.
And that concerned part means she's unsure.
So if she's unsure that means she doesn't feel safe,
she doesn't feel peaceful,
she doesn't feel completely beloved.
And that means she's not trusting,
she's not respecting,
she's not loving a hundred percent.
So if environment is not feeling safe, peaceful, and loved,
that's something for you to remember and to know
how to evaluate growth.
And then personal relationship, trust, respect love,
that's how you evaluate.
Before you even go to
walk with the dog, play with the dog,
explore with the dog, obeding with the dog,
agility with the dog, feeding the dog,
all of that is outside the foundation
of environment and connection
of friendship.
'Cause that's what he needs to establish,
he needs to establish trust
in order for her to learn to begin to friendship.
'Cause this is not about pet parent,
or even dog owner, or even dog trainer,
nothing like that.
Human has to establish friendship,
first and foremost.
Especially when a dog is older than three or four,
I think her age is around six, seven,
so this is a mature dog.
For her, this is completely new,
so we have to make sure that we establish friendship,
first and foremost.
That's good Andre
Bring her out.
- Bring her out?
- Now, this is where the leash is a big, big friend,
because if she chases the ducks,
or the dogs, or anybody that is around,
the leash gives you access
to control the body immediately.
Okay?
Versus not having a leash on the dog
that you don't know,
that you don't have trust, respect, love,
or rules, boundaries, limitations,
the leash gives you access to at least control the body.
- [Andre] Okay so I'm gonna pick it up,
and I'm gonna have the least amount of tension,
to let her engage in curiosity
and let her explore.
So the uncertainty and unsureness goes away.
- [Cesar] So what do you think?
Back of the pack, middle of the pack?
Definitely not a front of the pack.
- Happy go lucky.
- [Cesar] Middle of the pack?
- Yeah, middle of the pack.
Only because right now, she's just super unsure,
but once it's overcome, obstacle has been overcome,
she's super happy.
That happy like, let's go do stuff, you know?
I'm happy to just be here.
Very happy, I feel.
- See if you guys want to learn how to read body language,
why the tail is between the legs,
and under the leg,
it's not that she is afraid,
it's she's extremely submissive.
That extremely submissive is borderline,
you want a little bit of that.
You want surrender, you don't want extreme submissive,
'cause that can also make other dogs attack her
or not want her in the pack.
That's why when we introduce Piper to any dog,
it has to be a dog that is balanced.
Older dogs, for any regular person to adopt
and bring into their home
can be a liability or can be a big risk,
because they know how to strike, okay?
And that's why a lot of times this breed,
they been thrown in the streets
or surrender dogs into shelters,
because they have strike,
and a strike means they have learned to correct another dog,
they have learned to express themselves that way.
We see it as a bite,
they see it as a communication.
We want that sweet face,
we don't want that (panting) tense face.
This is the kind of dog that people
has hit or (growls).
Somebody has used too much of a way
to letting her know to settle down.
That's not good.
See that eye contact?
She's sweet.
I mean obviously she had babies.
I hope you're spayed lady.
This is not a time when you give affection by the way.
This is not when you give affection.
- [Mesa] It's not when you give?
- [In Unison] Nope.
- Nope, this is not happy go lucky,
this is not sweet.
She's just nervous.
- [Mesa] How can you tell the difference between,
like how do you know she's nervous
as opposed to-
- I can show you Junior.
I can you Junior rolling over
and like really having fun, stretching his back,
versus she's just rolling over out of nervousness.
She's really fast and it has that
edge feeling, and they lick a lot.
I don't know if you're hearing the sounds
like (clicks tongue).
That's anxiety.
She's not settled, she's not relaxed.
She has the capability to be sweet,
but right now she's not.
Different human.
She doesn't know they're my kids.
Different approach.
Okay, no structure.
- All right, one more time?
- [Cesar] No, it's not the one more time.
It's you did it with no structure.
So what you're having right now,
is the dog that are just coming out
and then you put the leash on.
So the dog said, whoa with that human
I can rush to the door and he's gonna loop me in.
So it's no structure, you understand?
So if Calvin
repeats this way of bringing Piper out,
Piper will learn that she can rush to the door,
and the only way she can actually experience the leash
is because Calvin is gonna loop her.
You were good, I mean your skill of putting the loop in,
that was good,
but not everybody does that.
Remember, it's all about rituals, symbols, and formulas.
So this ritual,
it has to be where even the slowest person
can put the leash on her.
- Okay.
Oh, okay.
- So if the slowest person can put the leash
that means you are giving them a very patient dog.
- Okay.
- Get it?
- Yeah.
- The calmest of the calmest.
When you have a powerful breed,
the way you control power is the calmer they become.
So what you did right there-
- No control.
- That's right, no control.
Okay.
(opens gate)
Look at that.
You see the difference between Andre's energy and Calvin's,
look at.
That means, Calvin, that means
that your calm energy
is not present whatsoever.
You're quiet, not calm.
See the difference, Mesa?
From one son to another son.
With Andre, she's over there.
Well, Andre was calm so keeps her in the back.
Andre actually has to lure her in by lowering himself.
With you, she's just excited.
- [Calvin] Oh, oh, oh, oh.
She's claiming space.
- But she can never come into your space
if that's not what you requested.
She can never move unless you request it.
This is safety purposes.
- [Calvin] Yeah, no, cause the breed.
- Because all the dogs,
but because people want to have powerful breeds,
you have to tell them, you know,
public zone, social zone, personal zone, intimate zone.
You have to gradually let them come in.
If you don't,
they become disrespectful to environment.
And if they touch you with that energy,
they become disrespectful to pet parent.
- Yeah.
- See the difference, see the difference?
With your approach
we will have to look for a rodeo person.
- Kay, all right.
- We can find it
'cause who we are,
but it's best we set the dog for 99% of it.
Hm.
That's rules, boundaries, limitations.
Rules, you don't rush.
Boundaries, you don't go
after that door.
Door close means door closed.
Door open means door open.
It doesn't mean you wanna chew it
or you wanna run out.
Then they, oh he's asking boundaries,
so this human is giving me direction
of how to be in this new place.
So that's what's gonna make a dog feel more comfortable
about adapting.
You want the dog to adapt to the new environment
with the new people.
- [Calvin] Of course.
- See it?
So how do you adapt?
Well, you provide exercise to the dog
and you provide rules, boundaries, limitations.
So when you invite a friend to your place,
that human has to exercise,
otherwise that energy that he doesn't exercise
is gonna become negative.
And if your friend doesn't follow the same
rules, boundaries, limitations that you want
then you're gonna be uncomfortable.
- [Calvin] Yeah.
- So right now it's best for you to establish
just this activity
and then we (gate opens)
Much better.
Touch with your feet a little bit, yeah.
Make her go back out of your intimate space.
More, more, more.
Don't sweep with her, no.
Calvin.
- [Calvin] Yeah.
- So what's gonna do is she's gonna jump back.
So she is gonna have you all your intimate space
and she's gonna go into personal space,
but if you do this.
You're sweeping with them.
So they don't actually move back.
There you go.
That's it.
There you go.
- [Calvin] Then put the leash?
Then go back.
Now, with a very tai-chi gesture.
There you go.
Send her back.
She's playing with him.
She's playing with him,
because she'd rather play with him
than don't understand him.
That's a sweet heart.
Once you get here, you remind what you want from her.
That's why she keep coming back.
- What is that called?
What's the word, reinforce.
- Reinforce, remind, right?
So the thing is, once you're here, look.
See it? Boom.
Once you move, and then here, you are now in social place.
So now you're saying in a social place
I want you to do what you did in a personal place.
That's right.
'Cause they know you just moved farther away
and then they said, do you want me to follow you,
do you want me to stay here,
but you didn't told her to stay there.
- Yeah, makes sense,
she's gonna have to think on her own.
- You are in a different layer.
And eventually you move that energy no matter where you are.
And say, ah the human is in the same state of mind
in different proximity.
So right now you gotta break it down,
like a cake.
So then what I was saying about the tai-chi move.
- And calmly invite her.
- See how you brought it in. - Oh.
- See how you bring it in?
- Yeah.
- So it's intention, body language,
and then as soon as she come close.
- Yeah, like a bull.
- Yep, that's right.
You're moving the brain
and then you park the brain.
- Mhm.
- See I can move her.
Once you feel they get stuck,
the only thing you do you go somewhere else.
Bring it in, and then once over there,
you standing back, and then the oh okay.
Go back.
Because she knows that that's home.
That's her den.
That was not tai-chi.
See that was loud.
For her that was loud
that she moved really fast.
The good thing is you stopped her at the end.
Yes.
- Stay.
Come on.
- [Cesar] You got it.
(clapping)
Now you're my son again.
Well, my expectations from my kids is always
for them to have the highest level of empathy and compassion
first and foremost,
before they go and do any kind of
assessment and evaluation.
Second thing I wanted them to do
is to learn to assess and evaluate.
You can't assess and give the wrong assessment,
because it's like the equivalent of going to the doctor,
you don't want the doctor to tell you
what he think you have,
you want the doctor to tell you exactly what you have.
So that way you can fix it.
And in this case,
when we rescue dogs,
it's about healing them, you know?
Healing equals rehabilitation,
rehabilitation equals healing.
So it's very important that my kids understand
in a very precise way, almost like a surgeon,
I can make sure before they get too close
that they give a precise reading.
Empathy, compassion, the right assessment and evaluation.
That's what I want.
Okay so then Andre started,
when Andre started energy was perfect.
He is my happy go lucky son, definitely more social,
very extroverted,
older, so he has more maturity,
has more age, more wisdom.
I'm glad, that means he's aging with time
like a wine.
Perfect reading, perfect energy.
At one point I have to help him,
because he was going super fast
and that's just a matter of my kids
having more repetition.
So I'm 49 years old, I have thousands of repetitions
on my belt.
It allows to come,
all the library of knowledge that I have
to put it right back in right away.
Andre is 24.
He has about hundreds of repetition,
so I'm literally moving with the dog.
So Andre at one point,
didn't know what to do,
how to be at the level, at the frequency of Piper.
And so Piper said, whoa this kid is good,
but is not knowledgeable.
That's when you know that the age matters,
you know, the knowledge, the maturity matters.
And so that's when I told Andre bring it out
and at one point, Piper looked at Sugar the wrong way,
that's when we corrected.
So that half a second was the only half a second
that Andre was not aware.
But the rest of them it was perfection,
so I'm very proud of his reading,
I'm very proud of his evaluation.
Of course as a father,
the empathy and compassion is at a high level.
And then Calvin came, look at the difference.
Not because the kid, it's from the same father and mother,
well in this case, the same father,
has the same energy, right?
And Calvin can be perfect for some dogs
and definitely for other dogs,
he will be seen as a playful friend, right?
Because Andre established friendship
but also established leadership as well.
So with Calvin, Piper completely
became too excited, too excited.
So the goal with Calvin was going to assess, evaluation
and then take him so Piper can meet Dahlia.
Calvin was not able to read
or do the process and the assessment
as I thought that he was gonna do it.
He pretty much opened the door, very confident
and then loop, lasso Piper
which is not what we want.
Every time that I explain something to my kids
it's not to make them wrong,
it's just to make them aware, right?
That could be a good strategy and technique for another dog.
So I'm not saying don't keep it.
What I'm saying is
look what it did for Piper.
Okay?
She became very excited
and she just pretty much wanted to dart out of the door.
And so for a powerful breed and older dog like Piper,
we want her to be the most gentle,
the most respectful dog in the planet,
because those are the dogs that do get adopted.
The excited dog who are older,
the dogs who pull,
they don't get adopted,
especially when they are powerful breed.
All right,
so then Calvin was not able to control his calm energy.
He's quiet.
This is where Calvin needs to work on his own self, okay?
So Calvin is definitely more introverted,
Calvin is definitely like to do his own thing,
but because he's so quiet about it,
he doesn't know how to stay calm,
he just stays quiet.
And that's one thing that he's learning along the way,
he will definitely accomplish it.
Piper right now, just told Calvin
the difference between quiet and calm,
which your dad has been telling you your whole entire life,
but Piper just made it more clear to Calvin,
so thank you Piper.
So it doesn't matter who did it.
It's what strategy works best for
that particular dog.
So since Andre came out with the best strategy,
then we all follow
what Andre did,
'cause that was the best strategy for Piper.
So when you are in a pack,
sometimes you lead, sometimes you follow.
It's three positions in the pack.
Back of the pack, middle of the pack, front of the pack.
The most important position is the back of the pack,
'cause those are the most sensitive of all.
Those are the best listeners.
So I always like to be in the back of the pack.
If people are getting nervous or tense or unsure, whatever,
I like to go in the middle,
so make people laugh,
and then once I have the trust and respect of people,
then I lead people.
I don't always begin with leader of the pack.
I always begin with back of the pack, okay?
Calvin and I, we went in the back
and then we are gonna imitate what Andre set up for Piper.
And then so now, Piper is gonna see,
oh, the whole family does the same, thing
so I'm going to behave the same way for everybody.
And that's what we got today.
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