And I also think we have to look at crime in a really important inquisitive and
civil way.
If you look at counties, and cities, and states, crime is higher in red and
Republican states more than it is in liberal cities [CROSSTALK]
>> Crime is going up rampantly.
So, you can talk about [CROSSTALK] >> Jacksonville capital [CROSSTALK]
>> Okay, can I just address this from
an actual factual point not a deflection?
>> That was almost a useful conversation.
Fox doesn't like to acknowledge inconvenient facts like that.
Red States on average tend to have more crime.
That's simply indisputable.
They don't like to talk about that but yet it does occasionally crop up.
You saw their women trying to point out, look, we can talk about Chicago or
whatever but let's be clear these red States and red cities.
She tried to list them but was shouted over, actually have more crime and
they melted down.
They could not accept the destruction of their narrative.
Now, that doesn't mean that the crime is specifically because of
conservative ideology, but
I don't know that maybe there's something there that we could dive into.
We could figure it out because the goal should be less crime, happier,
more satisfied, safer people with a higher quality of life but that's not their goal.
Their goal is the creation and establishment and
continuance of a narrative and they don't like it to be destroyed before their eyes.
>> [LAUGH] That was pure chaos.
[LAUGH] What's interesting to me about this
always is the word crime is a very broad word.
To get into it you would need to discuss what those crimes are.
>> Sure. >> What are we talking about here.
Are we talking about gun deaths?
Are we talking about property crime?
What are we talking about?
And then I would also add like this Republican thirst to essentially take over
the entire country which they're already doing, everything is a red state.
So, eventually yeah, there's gonna be crime in red states man because you may
turn [LAUGH] everything red so you can't like just continually push that off.
And I just think for me the definition of crime is a very dangerous thing and
there they want to be the ones who defined the crime.
And living in California, the GOP Republican conservatives out
here are constantly beating the drum of crime and I'm just like,
what are you talking about?
What does that mean when you say it?
What are you actually talking about?
And I join you brought up a good point two of our quality of living is in the toilet.
So, of course people are committing crimes,
they're committing crimes of like stealing food.
Is that what we're talking about?
Yeah. >> We have to be honest and
look stringently at the words that were bringing up and I feel like that host was
about to do it and they were like absolutely not, we're not doing that.
>> It could have been a good conversation.
Yeah, and people are desperate.
Desperate people commit crimes at higher rates.
The right pretends that they don't want that to happen and yet they support
economic policies that have as their natural inevitable conclusion that state.
And you're totally right, you can define crime in a lot of different ways.
A few specifics though that we could throw out.
And Arnold the woman on the show there,
she wanted to get into this per capita murder rates are 40% higher in
states won by Donald Trump than those won by Joe Biden.
Gun deaths almost twice as high per capita in red places as in blue.
That's according to the Atlantic and as of late June CNN noted in March there
are more gun deaths in Texas by far, than in any other state.
And look, you've probably seen the spreadsheets, the more guns in a state,
the more gun deaths.
It's weird, nobody can figure out why it would be but
those do tend to be red states.
I'm sorry, Republicans I don't like it any more than you two but
it's also the truth and avoiding it is doing no one any favors except maybe
Republican politicians, I don't know.
>> They are making a lot of money off of it John,
[LAUGH] I mean that's ultimately what it comes down to.
They're making a lot of cash off of it.
>> Yeah.
>> So, they couldn't possibly restrict something that would similar to
mansion with the fossil fuels, the same thing with the gun lobby.
It's the same thing, it's all just for profit.
So, the more awash we are in guns the more money for them and
the more gun deaths there are even accidental.
You're putting a killing machine in every house sometimes upwards of 20,
your ratio of possibility of death or injury.
That's like if I was sleeping in a house with running vehicles,
[LAUGH] I'm gonna probably cuz they love to compare guns to vehicles and
I'm like, great, let's do it.
Let's reduce cars too, let's do both.
Actually I agree with you.
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