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fans and welcome back to my channel movie files we are back discussing season two episode five which
was titled the tale an episode in which we find out that our boy charles he still has feelings
for jan maples dating a liar what is alice hiding in oliver you are not the father we have so much
to discuss here in this world of review so excited to be back with you all but before we get into the
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ivan and bunny's relationship what is alice hiding and is she a relative of rose cooper
teddy is the baby daddy let's talk about it all in the comments below we got so much to discuss and
i'm so excited to be here with you all so with that being said we got a breakdown here full
spoilers ahead as we open the episode with william putting together a family tree which we learn a
lot about the family of oliver as we flash back to a young oliver in the 1970s as he is someone that
is incredible at reading people and he also can tell when people are lying everyone has a secret
and everyone has a tail but uh oliver didn't see one right under his nose this whole time
which we go back into a moment here in which we flash forward to when william was probably
around eight or nine years old and he sees his father playing a game with son of sam's killer
which was actually a real life serial killer in new york city during the time of 1976 to 1977
he was someone that murdered six people and had new york in a absolute panic and one of the
largest manhunts of new york history as we cut to that flashback and we see who's in the room
it's teddy he's a killer and he's also the father of william which we'll talk about a little bit
later we see william again narrating his opening sequence and he talks about you can keep a secret
from oliver as long as you don't know what you're hiding as again we go back to that family tree
and there's another theory i'm going to share with you all about doppelgangers and maybe twins
being out there but uh yeah things are getting really messy when it comes to olive's family and
i can't wait to get to that that moment of the episode which blew my mind let's get back into
it here as we are catching up with jan spends her days watching porn and tick-tock as charles wants
to get a little bit of insight of a maniac and a killer and help on this case as charles fills her
in on their suspects and jan reminds charles how much they had in common and that there they were
in a sweet spot and there's still feelings there even though charles is like no you're a killer and
a maniac and i don't like you but um you know the heart knows what the heart wants right which again
will he be breaking jan out of prison sometime soon i i wouldn't put it past him he's in love man
you do some crazy stuff when you're in love ladies and gentlemen but she does give him a very huge
tip we're looking for a storyteller an artist they are never done with their work until it's complete
is there a new friend involved because they are the killer as the show just perfectly transitions
to alice which we talked about alice and cara delevingne and i'm not gonna lie i'm so by the way
this is complete side note we talked about last week amy schumer the less the better carl she's
kind of growing on me she did some things in this episode that made me feel a certain way as far as
her acting sensibilities and i've talked about it in episode one and two i'm not the biggest fan of
her as an actor but she did some things in this episode that made me feel a certain way in a good
way and we'll talk about her later but again alice is it two on the nose is it two on the nose that
she's the killer but again as william said in this episode you don't know you're lying if you don't
know the lie maybe she doesn't know about maybe her relatives and rose cooper we'll talk about
that a little bit later but april will be hosting an event that alice wants to hold as she discovers
some matches in her event and the matches are labeled the pickle diner and we know that
bunny she was at the pickle diner and ivan in her relationship is there something there we'll we'll
talk about that later but again the scooby-doo crew always find a little clues and again we know
this is just a fact at this point the person that killed bunny is very aware of the building we're
gonna get into my thoughts here in a second but getting back into the breakdown maple brings in
the team the show what she found and maybe bunny did not say savage but instead she might have
whispered her last words as passage do they know who this belongs to as it is time to check in with
ivan and figuring out who were the diner regulars and we get this very interesting note of dialogue
that i wrote down here in my notes here as they're kind of putting the pieces together the the notes
that i haven't gave them it's in russian so they really couldn't decipher who the names were
oliver says something very interesting to me and i'm going to read it off here as oliver is joking
about the killer being a shadow self and states that maybe the killer is his grandson and he has
doubts that it's even his blood two things i want to say there number one the second part of that is
yeah it's you're not the father so it isn't your grandson so a little bit of foreshadowing
he says something that was just kind of you know their shadow selves and this show is you know
it has it plays into the narrative of a murder mystery and kind of plays into the tropes that
it's the lover and all that stuff from season one another trope with murder mysteries especially
when they're kind of like over the top there's always a secret evil twin out there and when
he said maybe it's our shadow selves i started thinking man what if oliver has some type of
crazy like brother or a twin brother that he didn't know about obviously we're gonna
talk about teddy a little bit later but i'm wondering like is there some type of like
family member that oliver doesn't know about that's related to him i don't know but again the
biggest thing that we're looking at right now is this teddy relationship with his ex-wife but again
that shadow sales comment really kind of stuck to me let me know if that stood out to you all if
you have some theories about maybe a a secret evil twin out there kind of trying to get their brother
or sister kind of caught up with some things let me know your thoughts on all that because we're
at the party now and they are getting everything set together but even before we get to the party i
love love love the writers of the show and how like meta and self-aware that the writers are
of this product that they're putting out there which is fantastic only murders in the building
as their fan club is talking about just kind of narrating where we are in the season like
oh you know the bird episode and you know it's really progressive of maple dating alice i love
this show i love these writers and i have such a fun time with this narrative in this episode
even putting the joking aside the way they weave together the narrative and the mystery and the
suspense but also the heart and the emotions it's no no surprise this is one of the most highest
rated shows on tv history it's a fantastic show but let's get back into the discussion
as alice puts on the charm in front of charles which it works because she saw one of his old
snuff films but oliver remember he's good at reading people and he was actually right even
though she kind of threw him off the scent there but again charles is very easily persuaded he
was like oh you saw my film that i made so long ago a little snuff film she's good at putting
on a little front and we'll talk about miss alice here in a second but it is time to play the game
sons of sam and we go back to the 1970s i absolutely love the costuming here in this scene
as we go one by one as the characters are dropping like flies but it is time to get a confession out
of miss alice and we get some truth she lied about her upbringing she did not grow up rich she grew
up poor and she wasn't at this point the son of the killer sam but she talks about how she grew up
in poverty she didn't have money which made me go back to when we learned about rose cooper if you
all remember she was someone that struggled with money she didn't have money and again if you go
back to my video i said that maybe my my working theory was rose oliver or charles dad they put on
this hoax about she died and the the price of her painting went up so they can go ahead and kind of
take the painting take the money and all that stuff so it kind of fits within there now i'm
not saying that rose is alice's mom because that that time well she could be you know you never
know the timeline but i'm thinking there is some relation there whether it's her it is her
daughter and she's you know passing down passing on this kind of vengeance revenge on people in
the building and particularly bunny and obviously knowing that bunny's mom might have been connected
to this whole love triangle that they had going so i'm thinking that there is some relation between
rose cooper and alice like i said whether it's her daughter her granddaughter a niece or something
nature that's where my mind's at right now with this connection with alice but again
she's putting on a front like oh you embarrass me in front of these people but
again she's hiding something we'll talk about that later but let me know if you are on that same rose
you know alice family tree connection there let's talk about that in the comments but
party is over as we see oliver spots a mysterious person gifting the money back
to bunny we all know that was ivan which we'll talk about that when we wrap up the episode
we check in with alice and maple as they make up and they make a promise to tell the truth
moving forward and we know she's lying so you know everything's looking peachy and key so far but
let's wrap up the episode and get to some more theories as charles fields jan in on the recent
events and the feelings are still there as they are having some phone sex he's bringing her to
bagels and again is he gonna try to break her out of jail this isn't good for our boy charles he's
opening his heart up again but he's his heart is leading him in the wrong way she's a killer man
she's psychotic but again the heart knows with the hard ones i'm very intrigued to see what they do
with this relationship and how often he's going to be visiting her and will you know mabel and oliver
snap him out of this kind of state that he's in uh or she's going to be helpful and i love jan
by the way as far as how she's going to be playing to the season very you know kind of a wild twist
on silence of the lamb and all that stuff so very interesting stuff there let me know where you see
this relationship going it's not going to be good we all know that but i'm very intrigued to see
what they're going to do with jam moving forward but we got some more juicy stuff to wrap up here
as we see oliver questions ivan about why he gave the money back and ivan brings up but there was a
maybe a little bit more of a relationship between him and bunny as as far as why she was gifting him
extra money but here's the key moment here he points towards the camera we see that it isn't
shot in 4k some very terrible footage but oliver managed to see the person take the matchbook so
we now know that the person which we talked about weeks ago whoever she met in a diner
is probably the same person that was hackling her on the phone about the painting and it's
probably ultimately the killer now i still think there are two maybe three killers involved but we
know that this person so far seems to be the foot person he seems to be the person on the
streets is doing all the heavy lifting and i think there's someone behind the scenes kind of you know
directing them kind of the puppet master that i think again i think there's multiple killers
in this particular season but that's only the tip of the iceberg because as we wrap up the episode
we see that in alice back she did have the car to sam she was lying about it she has
more secrets to tell family tree that's my big thing we wrap up the episode with william
giving oliver the news about their family tree that he has some greek in his blood
not irish and this is where they kind of pan back to that flashback early in the episode
where we see oliver teddy his ex-wife and they're like oh there are any secrets you're gonna tell me
and they look at each other alluding to teddy and oliver's ex-wife got it on and they had a little
baby by the name of william and oliver is not the child of william or to say the father of william
wow which means oliver or should say william is the brother brother of theo oh boy
this is getting really really interesting and i am so intrigued to know and we all know that yes
teddy knew this and this goes back to last week's scene when he was talking oliver i'm going to f
you over he knows the truth and he knows this is gonna crumble his life oh my goodness what
does that mean for again this show does so great at yes there's a murder at the helm of this show
that's the main thrust right who is the killer but at the same time there's so many other interesting
story lines this whole family tree situation the alice situation you know maple finding out
giving our heart to someone only to be broken again and also charles and his heart getting
broken again so there's all that subplot this is so great but at the helm of it is who's the killer
right now like i said my working theory is that that there is some connections to rose cooper
and some family ties with her and alice and there's a third person in the middle i think that
third mystery person is our main killer but again there's a puppet master behind all of this stuff
who that puppet master is is rose as she's declared dead is she still alive what's the
deal with bunny's mom we haven't seen her in a couple weeks you know she can be somehow tied
into this as well with the painting and the money and all that and the whole three-way she had back
in the day i'm loving it i'm loving it but i want to know your thoughts your thoughts your theories
your predictions how do you feel oliver will take this news will it be just vengeance and hate going
on or will it lead to more of this incredible mystery let me know your thoughts in the comments
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