It looks like not very many people in the Democratic Party want
President Joe Biden to run for president again in 2024.
And unfortunately the options to replace him as a candidate aren't so
great that either.
But who knows?
Maybe you might disagree with me.
So why don't we get into what this survey indicates?
The survey was done by a data company known as premise.
And so it does demonstrate for now the I don't know, it feels like several
times we've seen that biden is not very popular within the Democratic Party.
It shows that by a margin margin of 23 points,
61% of democrats polled said they would prefer a new president,
38% say that they would welcome another four years of biden.
So only 38% out of the you know, Democratic electorate is supposed to be,
you know, nationally representative sample would want biden to run again and
be president again.
So who do people want to replace him with?
Believe it or not.
Kamala Harris is at the top of the list.
I mean, she's got 21% of the respondents saying that they would prefer her
to run in 2024 with possible candidacy getting more getting the most votes.
Then you have Hillary Clinton is pulling at 19% according to the premise poll.
Gavin Newsom, the governor of California is in this poll and so
is Buddha gig, but they're both tied for third at a measly 9%.
And so how does biden measure up to Trump in a potential rematch?
Well, you're gonna have to wait to find out first.
I want to talk to you guys about what you think about where the electorate is
right now in regard to biden and who Really is topping the list?
Kamala Harris to replace him as president in 2024.
Yeah, the last part that Kamala Harris part is just it's crazy.
I mean Kamala Harris didn't even perform well in the primaries and
she's I feel as though they were going easy on her.
She just couldn't get traction.
I understand as vice president you're sort of gifted a place at the table.
But I don't feel as though she's going to honor that gift with any kind of a real
charge, biden is not a media friendly president.
He struggles to speak Oftentimes struggles with prompt her.
I mean the last guy had yo semite.
So I mean it's not exactly, he wasn't exactly a virtuoso with the prompter.
But that said he was a showboat And obviously biden is not.
So I guess what I'm trying to say is in this media environment, biden doesn't pop.
So I can kind of understand why his numbers would be soft.
Anyway, add to that inflation war and Covid and you've got a very
tough swamp for him to get his way out of last thing that I would just say
is it's really the primordial ooze of any sort of polling that matters.
So in some sense, these are names that are thrown out.
And while it's interesting to talk about and and
it might even be instructive on some level, it's still way early.
Yeah, that's a great point.
I think that final thing that you said was really important because between,
I mean the midterm elections haven't even happened yet.
I mean, we're still dealing with primary elections for the midterms and
even one month is a lifetime in a presidential election.
So who's to say what is likely to happen by the time we get to 2020 for Ravana?
What do you think?
Yeah, I mean, I think that whenever anyone asks me,
who would I who do I think should primary joe biden?
I only have two answers.
The first is Katie border, I love her, I think that she does well across a lot of
broad you know, broad factions of the Democratic Party and constituency.
And she's proven that she can be successful in purple districts.
The second one let me make the Socialist case for billionaire governor, J.
B. Pritzker of Illinois because
it seems really funny, but he's been, you know,
a really good governor here since he's been in office.
He's he's passed bail, he eliminated cash bail, we legalized marijuana and
he also expunged the records of everyone who had marijuana charges in Illinois,
eliminated source of income discrimination.
So now landlords can't discriminate against tenants who use housing choice
vouchers otherwise known as section eight, they can't discriminate against tenants
who use their primary source of income is Social Security disability.
He also gave Chicago teachers unions, their bargaining rights back, which was,
I mean, what he's done is despite being what we would consider pretty much a milk
toast democrat is he hasn't shunned the activist wing of the party.
And that's something he's proven that he listens to the constituents that
my cat wanted to make an appearance and that that he can deliver on his promises.
And that's really what voters are looking for.
Someone who can deliver on their promises.
And we haven't found that in joe biden and
that's just the type of candidate we're going to need moving forward.
Yeah. And I mean,
we're not talking about the progressive wing of the democratic
electorate simply airing their grievances about biden.
We're talking about the bulk of the democratic electorate,
including typical pro establishment liberal voters who typically, you know,
will they're like the rider dies for candidates like joe biden typically.
But biden has failed to fulfill so many promises, including,
you know, some of the bold promises that he made on the debate stage,
including holding the Saudis accountable for the slaughter of Jamal Khashoggi.
He's now Buddy Buddy.
And of course, some members of the media are rallying in support of biden because
they want to support his efforts to get Saudi Arabia to produce more oil.
You know, to lower gas prices and all of that.
And also, let's not forget that we have a financial relationship with
Saudi Arabia in the form of selling them weaponry and you know,
that's a big favor to the defense industry here in the United States, you know, But
all of these broken promises start to add up and it looks really bad when, you know,
you not only break the promises, you also have absolutely no camera presence,
you know, the inability to make your case.
The inability to be a charismatic leader, whether we like it or not,
that's an important element of being a leader of being a president.
And he's kind of failed in that regard as well.
And I agree with you, Ravana on Katie Porter, I had a conversation about this
with john Corolla not too long ago and I suggested Katie Porter would actually be
a great candidate and she's doing well in a Purple district.
She knows how to stick to an economic message that resonates with even some
Republican voters.
I would argue.
So, I think she's a strong candidate to underscore that she speaks
the language of the populist.
She has a populist message,
which is something that you suggested anna that biden had.
But then of course, like so
many administrations that proceeded him that isn't, there's no follow through.
Katie Porter clearly is an advocate.
She reminds me a little of Elizabeth Warren like a young Elizabeth Warren who
is, who will smack talk the other side and then deliver the goods.
I think that's a great, great notion ravana about about Katie Porter.
So go ahead.
Sorry, anna Yeah, no problem.
I wanted to just quickly get to, you know,
where biden falls if he were to run against Trump in 2024.
So in the same poll numbers show that Biden 79 And Trump 76 are tied with 50%
of respondents saying they preferred the Democrat and 50% saying
that they preferred the Republican when asked in a general election race between
President Joe Biden, former President Donald Trump, who would you prefer?
And so, I mean, it's interesting because I would argue that those numbers
are still too close for comfort.
There are other polls indicating that if the election were to take place between
the two today trump would win.
And remember the one Effective message during the 2020 campaign for
Biden was, well, he's the only Democrat who can win against Trump.
You take that away and I can understand why Democratic voters are pretty terrified
of the notion of of biden running again.
And then one final thing I'll mention, you know, just to kind of buttress this and
and add more weight to it.
You know, there's the CNN poll that shows that 75% of democrats and
Democratic leaning voters want the party to nominate someone other than joe biden
in the 2024 election.
That's a giant percentage of Democratic voters.
And so again, who's to say what the future holds for the presidential election,
which Democratic candidates might, you know, consider running.
You know, you're seeing more and more democrats even openly saying, and
I'm talking about members of Congress openly saying that they would like to see
someone else run rather than biden, which I think is fascinating.
But we'll see what happens biden seems to think that, you know, he can win.
He hasn't said that he wouldn't, you know that he wouldn't pull out of the race.
So we'll see what happens.
He really made a big thing of sort of returning the nation,
the soul of the nation, kind of getting us back to magnetic north.
And as you suggest, had it not been for the last guy being such a train wreck.
So divisive all the way to the driving, divisive understates it it's likely that
joe biden would have shown not showing up on any map in any kind of serious way.
So these are weird political times, I will say one thing joe biden can take a victory
lap if this mansion thing actually comes to pass because there's enough there.
Now it's not enough for me, but
there is enough there that addresses things that were on the campaign trail.
I'm talking about the prescription drug negotiations.
Now, even some of the green new deal just a sliver as far as I'm concerned.
Again, I'm kind of a tree hugger, but
at least there is stuff there that Biden can take a victory lap with, so
all of a sudden he might go from the doghouse to the penthouse in terms of his
ability to talk the politics of what's going on right now.
So I would say again, things change month to month, as you just said,
and this may not end up being such a bad month for him.