I TELL YOU I BET SHE SHE
DOES IT.
STEVE: JULIAN ASSANGE HAS
BEEN ARRESTED IN LONDON AN
HOUR AND 10 MINUTES AGO
TAKEN INTO CUSTODY
ECUADORIAN CUSTODY WHERE HE
HAS BEEN LIVING IN REFUGE
SINCE 2012.
AINSLEY: POLICE SERVED
ASSANGE WITH A WARRANT BACK
IN 2012.
BRIAN: JUDGE, HELP US WITH
THIS.
YOU HOST LIBERTY FILE.
I RECOGNIZE YOU FROM THE
APP.
JUDGE NAPOLITANO.
>> I HAVE INTERVIEW YOU HAD.
BRIAN: CAN'T USE THE PICTURE
YET BUT HE WAS DRAGGED OUT
IN CUFFS.
>> HE WAS DRAGGED OUT
BECAUSE KNOWING HIM AND OF
COURSE WE ALL KNOW HIM, I
HAVE INTERVIEWED HIM MANY
TIMES.
HE IS OF THE BELIEF THAT IF
HE VOLUNTARILY WENT OUT OR
COOPERATED WITH THEM HE
MIGHT BE WAVING HIS CLAIM TO
UNLAWFUL ARREST.
THEY LITERALLY CARRIED HIM
OUT.
IS HE TECHNICALLY ARRESTED
ON A BAIL JUMPING VIOLATION,
WHICH IS A VERY, VERY --
BRIAN: THEY GOT RID OF THE
SEXUAL ASSAULT IN SWEDEN.
STEVE: THEY DIDN'T DROP THE
CASE THEY JUST RESINED THE
CHARGES.
>> THERE IS NO BASIS TO
ARREST HIM IN LONDON FOR THE
SEXUAL ASSAULT INVESTIGATION
IN SWEDEN.
HE APPARENTLY HAS BEEN
CHARGED WITH SOMETHING IN
THE UNITED STATES.
WE'LL DON'T KNOW.
BECAUSE OF THIS INADVERTENT
RELEASE OF A WARRANT FOR
HIM.
THAT IS PROBABLY THE TRUE
REASON FOR HIS ARREST.
HE WILL PROBABLY BE
EXTRADITED HERE.
WE WILL SEE THE INDICTMENT.
AND WE WILL PROBABLY HAVE A
SHOW TRIAL.
JILLIAN: JUDGE, WHY WOULDN'T
HE GIVE HIMSELF UP INITIALLY
AND GO TO TRIAL?
BECAUSE HE HASN'T SEEN HIS
FAMILY OR KIDS ALL THESE
YEARS.
KNOWING IT'S JUST A DELAY.
>> I HAVE TO TELL YOU, IN MY
OPINION JULIAN ASSANGE IS A
HERO.
WHAT HE PUBLISHED WAS
TRUTHFUL INFORMATION THAT
THE AMERICAN PUBLIC AND THE
WORLD HAD THE RIGHT TO SEE.
HE IS A PUBLISHER JUST LIKE
WE ARE.
BRIAN: JUDGE, HE EXPOSED
STATE DEPARTMENT SECRETS THE
WORLD HAD NO BUSINESS
SEEING.
WHEN YOU HAVE PRIVATE
COMMUNIQUES WITH OUR
OFFICIALS THEY SHOULD NOT BE
EXPOTSZED OR ELSE WE WILL
NEVER HAVE PRIVATE
COMMUNIQUES.
>> I AGREE THAT WILL
DIMINISH THE PRIVATE
COMMUNICATIONS.
JUST AS IF WE WORKING FOR
FOX NEWS RECEIVED SECRET
INFORMATION, MY GOD THE
PUBLIC HAS TO KNOW.
THIS THE PERSON WHO GAVE IT
TO US COMMITS THE CRIME THE
PUBLISHER DOES NOT COMMIT
THE CRIME.
AINSLEY: IF HE IS GUILTY,
WILL THEY USE HIM AS AN
EXAMPLE?
>> I WOULD THINK SO.
IF HE IS GUILTY I DON'T
THINK HE WILL SEE THE LIGHT
OF DAY AGAIN.
STEVE: IF HE IS BROUGHT TO
THE UNITED STATES, YOU KNOW,
HE IS GOING TO SAY I CAN'T
ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT WHERE
I GOT THIS STUFF BECAUSE I'M
PROTECTED BY YOUR FIRST
AMENDMENT.
>> CORRECT.
SO I'M NOT GOING TO TELL YOU
HOW I GOT HILLARY CLINTON'S
EMAILS WE GOT THEM AND
PUBLISHED THEM.
BRIAN: ECUADOR PRESIDENT
SAYS WE WILL ONLY PUT NEW
BRITISH CUSTODY IF YOU
PROMISE NOT TO RELEASE HIM
TO A THIRD PARTY.
MIGHT BE JUST HIS WORD THAT
HE GOT FROM BRITAIN.
WE WILL SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
>> I DON'T THINK THAT
PROMISE IS ENFORCEABLE,
BRIAN.
BRIAN: 13 MINUTES BEFORE THE
BOTTOM OF THE HOUR.
STEVE: WANT TO HOUR.
BILL BARR SAID SPYING DID
OCCUR ON THE CAMPAIGN OF
DONALD TRUMP.
BIG QUESTION THOUGH, JUDGE,
AND WE HAVE ALREADY SEEN THE
SOUND BY THE IS WHETHER OR
NOT THE PROTOCOLS WERE IN
PLACE WHERE THE DEPARTMENT
OF JUSTICE FOLLOWED THE
RULES OR DID SOMEBODY BREAK
THEM?
>> OKAY, SO TWO THINGS.
THERE'S ANOTHER BIG
QUESTION.
WHO DID THE SPYING?
IF THE INTELLIGENCE
COMMUNITY, AMERICAN OR
FOREIGN WAS INVOLVED, I
DON'T THINK WE WILL EVER
FIND OUT ABOUT, THIS THEY
SIMPLY WILL NOT LET IT COME
TO LIGHT.
WHEN PRESIDENT TRUMP OFFERED
LAST YEAR TO REVEAL ALL THE
FISA INFORMATION STRZOK AND
McCABE AND THOSE CHARACTERS
GAVE.
BRIAN: THE WORLD WENT CRAZY?
>> CORRECT.
HE WAS TALKED OUT OF IT.
BY WHOM?
INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES,
DOMESTIC WHO WORK FOR HIM
AND FOREIGN.
THE OTHER QUESTION, THE ONE
STEVE RAISED IS INTRIGUING.
IF THEY GAVE GARBAGE
INFORMATION TO FISA.
AND FISA GAVE THEM A
WARRANT, IT IS A VALID
WARRANT AND THE SPYING, I
HATE TO SAY THIS, THE SPYING
WAS LAWFUL.
IS THAT THEN IS ON THE FAULT
OF THE JUDGE WHO ACCEPTED
THE GARBAGE WHO DIDN'T LOOK
AT IT CRITICALLY.
STEVE: IT'S GOT TO BE
VERIFIED.
>> DIDN'T ASK QUESTIONS
ABOUT IT.
STEVE: THAT GARBAGE HAS TO
BE VERIFIED.
>> YES.
THAT'S WHAT THE ATTORNEY
GENERAL SAID WHEN HE SAID IS
THERE A PREDICATE.
HE MEANT WAS THERE VALID,
LAWFUL EVIDENCE GIVEN TO
THESE JUDGES OR WAS IT
GARBAGE?
BRIAN: IF THE BRITISH HELPED
OUR INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES
SPY ON THE TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION AND THEY
DON'T EXPOSE THAT IT'S GOING
TO HAPPEN AGAIN.
THEY ARE NOT GOING TO BACK
OFF.
THEY WANTS TRUMP OUT.
>> DO YOU REALLY WANT TO
OPEN UP THAT CAN OF WORMS?
BRIAN: I GOT A CAN OPENER,
I'M WILLING TO USE IT.
>> WHAT YOU SAY IS
ABSOLUTELY CORRECT, BRIAN.
IF A FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE
AGENCY DID HELP THE FBI SPY
ON PRESIDENT TRUMP.
WE WILL NEVER KNOW.
STEVE: THAT'S A BIG IF.
>> YOU AND I COVERED IT.
[LAUGHTER]
, THAT WAS TWO YEARS AGO.
BRIAN: THAT WAS YOU.