Because I think there's a real problem here and the problem isn't what you've said
it's can suffering and evil pose a problem to the atheist as well? Because I think this is the real
problem, the problem is for the atheist. Can you perhaps explain why it's a problem, the problem
of evil and suffering. I think so too and I think it's very important to turn the tables
when we're speaking about this issue too because thinking about suffering like I said
I think it's something that all people all around the world throughout history have been
thinking about, theists, polytheists, monotheists, deists, these people are thinking about suffering,
suffering is a part of this world so but i really think that it's a big problem for the
atheists from for three specific reasons. The first thing is when you speak about the problem of evil
you're actually speaking about an objective standard for what is good and bad and evil
and not even and i will speak about that the second thing is that when people are suffering
uh it's really something that goes through their nervous system that you can feel pain is something
that goes through your nervous system and the nervous system is incredibly designed
and it really points to a designer. So it's really an evidence for for God's existence
and the last thing is how to cope with suffering and evil in the world as an atheist. So
let us speak about the first thing when we speak about the problem of evil let me say because
this is ... I've seen Stephen Fry he's a very famous British comedian and and so on he's an
atheist he says he's an atheist and he was going on about how evil suffering was he used the word
evil repeatedly and many people found this very very ironic and contradictory just
this is a real problem so real atheists are really saying it's evil and you can see Stephen
Fry going on and on about this on youtube so why is that a problem for atheism i think that most
most general atheists they have a sense inside of themselves it's a part of the Fitrah, the natural
instinct that there are some objective moral goods and evils that they think that this and
this and that are objectively good it's not just my opinion and the opinion in my culture this is
good to help children that are starving it is a good thing to do it's not just my opinion that
it's good it's a good thing to do and holocaust and so on they are evil things it's not just
my opinion that it's evil it's evil but if you're an atheist you don't you can't have these
objective moral standards because everything just goes down to personal beliefs or feelings
and we can see that atheists that really take the atheism to this extent like you can see Alexander
Rosenberg he's a professor of philosophy as a book that is called Atheist Guide to Reality
and when he speaks about these issues he said there are no such thing as good, bad,
evil, and so on it's just you should do good things because it makes you feel good
but there are no objective moral standards for good and evil in ethics atheistic worldview you
can even see like i don't know if you read the books of Noah Harari: Sapiens A Brief History of Humankind, and Homo Deus, deals
they're quite interesting books when he's speaking about these things because he's a
real darwinistic atheist and he takes all these things to it's he's a real nihilist so when he
speaking about human rights he said there is no such thing as human rights because human
rights are based on the belief that humans are created equal from a creator this is the
Declaration of the Independence of the United States people are not created in his view there
have evolved evolved and they are not equal they are different people are different so
how can you speak about human rights this is a metaphysical concept it's like we don't have any
rights we're animals we're evolved animals so when atheists usually speak about these things
i think they kind of go back to their Fitrah, their natural instinct, that there are some
objective moral good and evil they're using religious language yeah they're illegitimately
borrowing some religious language of good and evil as metaphysical objective concepts
whereas in fact truly as their own philosophers have said there is no good or evil for atheists so
actually it's it's a bit of a um a tricky argument because they're borrowing religious language and
saying oh but we're not we don't believe in religion they can't really do that consistently
yeah and the the second thing is the nervous system uh why do people suffer why do you feel
pain when i do like this because i have a nervous system if i would not have a nervous system
i will not feel pain when i do this and this and that and i'm not a doctor so i can't speak about
how the whole nervous system is built up and so on but you can just go into youtube and write a human
nervous system and you can when you see these things it's just Allahu Akbar like Subhanallah
how just in a microsecond when you do like this you can feel straight away in a microsecond pain
and if we would not feel pain we can lose our legs so we don't know which is that someone cuts off
our legs and we don't know what's happening with us so it's really a signal for us that there's
something wrong here there's something wrong in your body here you can feel pain here okay you
should go to the doctor you should look it up and so on and this is pure design and the sign
points to a designer so the whole thing the whole concept of suffering goes back to an incredibly
designed nervous system and the third thing that i think it does not really disprove atheism but
it's if you really think about the atheist worldview
and you can see that they are suffering or people around them are suffering
how can they find like uh consolidation or how can they find some kind of comfort
i used to have a neighbor in sweden who was an atheist on a countryside when he was feeling pain
he was old and he had chronic pains or something like that and he used to find comfort in saying
well it would all go away in the crematorium when i die and will cover that all of my pains will go
away this was his way to find the hope that he will lose pain and he's yeah in his worldview
it's right how can they find something if we look at the hadith that i mentioned the ayat of Allah
and hadith of the prophet upon whom be peace and you suffer you can really feel like ok okay i can take this
because it will take away my sins and i'll have a reward in the next life and so on and so on so you
can feel comfort that God will reward us for all of these things but as an atheist what if you have
chronic so you feel chronic pain chronic diseases suffering the only thing that will take it away
is death and it's like okay after death what's there it's nothing so i think that
this is really it's really depressing if you really think about what atheism means it's
depressing because okay you strive today you study and you work you gain money and you gain fame but
at the moment that you die everything inc in accordance to your worldview finish nothing there
and how can you you can see that people are suffering people oppressing others you could see
that Hitler it took over like almost the whole of Europe he killed people by the millions and
when the Russians came close killed himself and he's finished we as muslims believe that
he will be responsible allah azzawajal will have him responsible for his needs and his actions
at the same time all of these people that died and so on and people that die and wars and so on
uh Allah azza will make justice in the next life so when you believe
in that it really gives you comfort and it makes you cope with the hard
hardships of life and the sufferings of life but i can't really see how an atheist can feel that
it's very hard for me so i think that the problem of suffering is really a problem for the atheist
yeah and yeah this is the great great irony actually that this problem actually uh rebounds
back on them with incredible force uh for the three reasons uh that you mentioned they can't
complain about evil evil doesn't exist for them and then and in their and their
exquisitely designed nervous system bears testimony to a designer anyway and anyway
atheism is his hopeless nihilistic literally god forsaken ideology which offers no consolation or
hope to humanity so it really rebounds back on atheism very painfully for them I think.