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>>> WE
>>> WE ARE BACK NOW WITH MORE FROM KING 5'S "FACING RACE"
TIMO WHAT SURPRISED THEM ABOUT
PRODUCING THE SHOW, AS WELL AS
WHAT IS NEXT.
>> WE KNEW BY DOING THE SHOW WE
WERE TAKING ON SOMETHING IN A
WAY THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO BE
FEARLESS AS WE'RE APPROACHING
IT BECAUSE WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT
RACE AND RACISM, AND YOU TREAT
IT AS A HUMANITARIAN ISSUE THAT
IT IS, THERE ARE CERTAINLY
PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO BE
TURNED OFF BY THAT OR WHO
AREN'T GOING TO UNDERSTAND IT
AND OPPOSE IT, BUT I HAVE
REALLY BEEN PLEASANTLY
SURPRISED WITH THE RESPONSE
FROM PEOPLE WHO JUST ARE CURIOUS
, WHO DIDN'T KNOW SOME OF THESE
IDEAS, WHO DIDN'T KNOW WHAT
SYSTEMIC RACISM IS, WITHOUT
RACISM SORT OF BEGINS AND ENDS
IF SOMEONE SAYS A RACIAL SLUR.
RATHER THAN UNDERSTANDING THIS
IDEA THAT RACISM REALLY WAS
PART OF THE FOUNDATION OF THIS
COUNTRY AND DOES PERMEATE A LOT
OF OUR INSTITUTIONS AND SYSTEMS
THAT WE HAVE HERE IN THE UNITED
STATES, SO GETTING THE
OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THAT
CONVERSATION TO BACK IT UP WITH
DATA, AND THEN TO HEAR PEOPLE
ACTUALLY RESPONDING AND NOT
JUST RESPONDING WITH OH, GEE, I
DID NOT KNOW THAT, BY SHARING
THEIR OWN EXPERIENCES, THEIR
OWN ATTEMPTS AT HAVING
CONVERSATIONS WITH PEOPLE THEY
KNOW AND LOVE, AND THEIR
WILLINGNESS TO SORT OF BE
VULNERABLE IN THAT, WHICH IS
REALLY IMPORTANT WHEN YOU ARE
HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS, AND
TO BE OPEN AND LEARN MORE.
THAT IS SO IMPORTANT, AND I
FEEL LIKE THOSE CONVERSATIONS
IN A SHOW LIKE THIS CAN REALLY
FUNCTION TO BRING PEOPLE
TOGETHER AND LEARN THINGS THAT
WE JUST HAVE NOT HAD THE
COURAGE IN THE PAST TO ADDRESS.
>> OF COURSE, YOU GUYS HAVE
DONE SO MUCH BRAINSTORMING, AND
YOU'RE CONSTANTLY TALKING ABOUT
WAYS TO BUILD THE SHOW AND
CREATE THE CONTENT THAT,
TAYLOR, HAVE YOU BEEN SURPRISED
BY ANYTHING YOU HAVE LEARNED
DURING THE COURSE OF WORKING ON
THIS SHOW?
THIS SHOW? >> YEAH!
>> YEAH!
>> YEAH! WELL, TO ECHO WHAT CHRISTIN
SAID, THE VULNERABILITY OF THE
RESPONSES FROM PEOPLE HAVE
REALLY BLOW ME AWAY QUITE
FRANKLY, JUST HOW MANY PEOPLE
ARE KIND OF SINGING THEY ARE
DESPERATE TO FIND WAYS TO TALK
ABOUT THIS, TO ENGAGE THEIR
FAMILY TO REALLY GET IT RIGHT
IS REALLY ENCOURAGING TO ME.
I MEAN, I JUST LEARNED HOW MANY
PEOPLE WANT TO HAVE THE
CONVERSATIONS BUT DON'T KNOW
WHERE TO START, AND THAT'S WHY
I FEEL LIKE THIS SERIES IS
REALLY HELPFUL TO PEOPLE.
I ALSO HAVE BEEN SURPRISED
MYSELF.
MYSELF.
MYSELF. YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN DOING SOME
STORIES.
STORIES.
STORIES. ANOTHER STORY WE DID WAS WE
ASKED PEOPLE THE QUESTION OF
WHEN DID YOU REALIZE YOUR RACE
MATTERED?
MATTERED?
MATTERED? AND I HAD NEVER PERSONALLY
CONSIDERED WHEN MY RACE
MATTERED, SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S
MADE ME THINK, AND IT'S MADE ME
ENGAGE WITH PEOPLE IN MY LIFE
DIFFERENTLY, JUST HEARING FROM
THE RACE EDUCATORS WE'VE
INTERVIEWED AND REALLY THINKING
ABOUT WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE
WHITE, WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE
BLACK, WHAT DOES THIS ALL MEAN,
AND HOW CAN WE REALLY MAKE
CHANGE?
CHANGE?
CHANGE? >> YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SURE THAT
PEOPLE UNDERSTAND HOW DIFFICULT
IT CAN BE FOR PEOPLE TO COLOR
TO TALK ABOUT THINGS THAT I'VE
TALK AND.
TALK AND.
TALK AND. IS IN THIS MEDIUM, SHARING IT
ON TELEVISION FOR THE FIRST
TIME BECAUSE THEY THINK IT'S
GOING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE BUT
I THINK WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH
"FACING RACE" IS GOING TO MAKE
A DIFFERENCE, SO THEY ARE
SHARING THEIR STORIES WITH
HOPES OF EDUCATING OTHER PEOPLE
TO LOOK AT RACE, TO LOOK AT
PEOPLE WHO ARE BLACK OR BROWN
OR WHATEVER, ASIAN, YOU NAME
IT, NATIVE, INDIGENOUS, IN A
DIFFERENT WAY.
DIFFERENT WAY. SO, I DO WANT TO SAY THAT WE'RE
SO GRATEFUL FOR ALL THE PEOPLE
WHO HAVE REALLY STEPPED UP TO
SHARE SOME OF THE STORIES.
>> SO THERE HAVE BEEN ONLY TWO
SHOWS SO FAR.
THERE'S A LOT MORE TO COME.
CHRISTIN, CAN YOU TELL US WHAT
IS COMING UP NEXT?
>> WE HAVE A LOT COMING UP
NEXT.
NEXT.
NEXT. BUT
NEXT. BUT WE ARE ACTUALLY DOING EACH
EPISODE BY THEME, SO OUR NEXT
EPISODE IS GOING TO LOOK AT
POLICING.
POLICING.
POLICING. OUR EPISODE AFTER THAT WILL
DIVE DEEPER INTO POLICING.
WE'LL BE LOOKING AT ISSUES LIKE
EDUCATION DISPARITIES AMONGST
PEOPLE OF COLOR AND WHITE
PEOPLE , AND HEALTH DISPARITIES
BETWEEN PEOPLE OF COLOR AND
WHITE PEOPLE, AND HOW
BUSINESSES AND CORPORATIONS ARE
RESPONDING TO THE BLACK LIVES
MATTER MOVEMENT, AND WHETHER
THE STATEMENTS THEY ARE
RELEASING ARE REALLY ENOUGH, SO
WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO COVER
ALL ASPECTS OF IT.
IN THE COURSE OF THIS, WE'RE
NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT BLACK
PEOPLE ARE WHITE PEOPLE.
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE OF
COLOR, WHITE PEOPLE.
WE WILL BE LOOKING AT ISSUES
THAT COVER NATIVE AMERICANS,
ASIAN AMERICANS, AND LATINOS,
AND TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE
AS BROAD A CONVERSATION AS
POSSIBLE, AND THIS SHOW IS
GOING TO CONTINUE RUNNING
THROUGH AT LEAST THE MIDDLE OF
DECEMBER, SO WE HAVE PLENTY
MORE EPISODES TO COME, AND WE
ARE ACTUALLY ASKING PEOPLE TO
REACH OUT AND LET US KNOW WHAT
THEY THINK THE STORIES ARE THAT
ARE IMPORTANT THAT WE SHOULD BE
COVERING.
COVERING.
COVERING. SOME OF OUR BEST STORY IDEAS
COME FROM OUR VIEWERS REACHING
OUT AND TELLING US ABOUT THEIR
EXPERIENCES WITH RACE AND
RACISM.
RACISM.
RACISM. >> KEEP DOING THE GREAT WORK.
YOU GUYS ARE DOING SUCH A GOOD
JOB TO STIGMATIZING THE NOTION
WESER TO BE TALKING