FOR OUR NETWORKS ON THE GROUND. THANK YOU.
GROUND. THANK YOU. THE DEATHS OF AT LEAST THREE
THANK YOU. THE DEATHS OF AT LEAST THREE DAYS, IN UKRAINE, HIGHLIGHT
THE DEATHS OF AT LEAST THREE DAYS, IN UKRAINE, HIGHLIGHT THE DANGERS THAT JOURNALISTS
DAYS, IN UKRAINE, HIGHLIGHT THE DANGERS THAT JOURNALISTS FACE DOING THEIR JOBS IN A
THE DANGERS THAT JOURNALISTS FACE DOING THEIR JOBS IN A CONFLICT ZONE. THE COMMITTEE
FACE DOING THEIR JOBS IN A CONFLICT ZONE. THE COMMITTEE TO PROTECT JOURNALISTS SAYS
CONFLICT ZONE. THE COMMITTEE TO PROTECT JOURNALISTS SAYS NINE JOURNALISTS AND MEDIA
TO PROTECT JOURNALISTS SAYS NINE JOURNALISTS AND MEDIA WORKERS HAVE BEEN KILLED SO
NINE JOURNALISTS AND MEDIA WORKERS HAVE BEEN KILLED SO FAR THIS YEAR INCLUDING
WORKERS HAVE BEEN KILLED SO FAR THIS YEAR INCLUDING A UKRAINIAN CAMERA OPERATOR
FAR THIS YEAR INCLUDING A UKRAINIAN CAMERA OPERATOR KILLED WHEN RUSSIA STRUCK A TV
A UKRAINIAN CAMERA OPERATOR KILLED WHEN RUSSIA STRUCK A TV INCLUDE THE TWO DEATHS
KILLED WHEN RUSSIA STRUCK A TV INCLUDE THE TWO DEATHS CONFIRMED BY FOX TODAY,
INCLUDE THE TWO DEATHS CONFIRMED BY FOX TODAY, BUT IT DOES REPRESENT A THIRD
CONFIRMED BY FOX TODAY, BUT IT DOES REPRESENT A THIRD OF THE NUMBER OF JOURNALISTS
BUT IT DOES REPRESENT A THIRD OF THE NUMBER OF JOURNALISTS THAT CPJ SAYS WAS KILLED
OF THE NUMBER OF JOURNALISTS THAT CPJ SAYS WAS KILLED LAST YEAR,
THAT CPJ SAYS WAS KILLED LAST YEAR, 27 ACROSS
FOR PRESS SAFETY. WALNUT. THE
FOR PRESS SAFETY. WALNUT. THE SITUATION IN UKRAINE IS
FOR PRESS SAFETY. WALNUT. THE SITUATION IN UKRAINE IS BECOMING MORE
SITUATION IN UKRAINE IS BECOMING MORE DIRE BY THE DAY
BECOMING MORE DIRE BY THE DAY FOR REPORTERS ON THE GROUND.
DIRE BY THE DAY FOR REPORTERS ON THE GROUND. REPORTERS ON THE GROUND ARE
FOR REPORTERS ON THE GROUND. REPORTERS ON THE GROUND ARE CONSIDERED CIVILIANS. AND IF
REPORTERS ON THE GROUND ARE CONSIDERED CIVILIANS. AND IF THEY‘RE INTENTIONALLY
CONSIDERED CIVILIANS. AND IF THEY‘RE INTENTIONALLY TARGETED, NOT JUST BY THE
THEY‘RE INTENTIONALLY TARGETED, NOT JUST BY THE RUSSIAN MILITARY, BUT BY
TARGETED, NOT JUST BY THE RUSSIAN MILITARY, BUT BY FORCES IN ARMED CONFLICTS, ALL
RUSSIAN MILITARY, BUT BY FORCES IN ARMED CONFLICTS, ALL OVER THE WORLD, SADLY,
FORCES IN ARMED CONFLICTS, ALL OVER THE WORLD, SADLY, IT CAN BE CONSIDERED A
OVER THE WORLD, SADLY, IT CAN BE CONSIDERED A WAR CRIME.
IT CAN BE CONSIDERED A WAR CRIME. JOINING ME NOW IS SUMMER,
WAR CRIME. JOINING ME NOW IS SUMMER, LOPEZ
JOINING ME NOW IS SUMMER, LOPEZ PAIN, AMERICA‘S SENIOR
LOPEZ PAIN, AMERICA‘S SENIOR DIRECTOR OF FREE EXPRESSION
PAIN, AMERICA‘S SENIOR DIRECTOR OF FREE EXPRESSION PROGRAMS
DIRECTOR OF FREE EXPRESSION PROGRAMS PAIN, NECK PAIN. AMERICA, OF
PROGRAMS PAIN, NECK PAIN. AMERICA, OF THAT CHAMPIONS OPEN EXPRESSION
PAIN, NECK PAIN. AMERICA, OF THAT CHAMPIONS OPEN EXPRESSION AND FREE JOURNALISM WORLDWIDE.
EVENING.
EVENING. HOW DIRE IS THE SITUATION ON
EVENING. HOW DIRE IS THE SITUATION ON THE GROUND?
HOW DIRE IS THE SITUATION ON THE GROUND? GETTING IN UKRAINE? FROM WHAT
THE GROUND? GETTING IN UKRAINE? FROM WHAT YOU KNOW, IS THERE A FEAR THAT
GETTING IN UKRAINE? FROM WHAT YOU KNOW, IS THERE A FEAR THAT JOURNALISTS ARE NOW BEING
YOU KNOW, IS THERE A FEAR THAT JOURNALISTS ARE NOW BEING INTENTIONALLY TARGETED.
JOURNALISTS ARE NOW BEING INTENTIONALLY TARGETED. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME
INTENTIONALLY TARGETED. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME METIS. I YOU KNOW, I THINK
THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME METIS. I YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT IT‘S WE‘RE STILL LEARNING
METIS. I YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT IT‘S WE‘RE STILL LEARNING ABOUT WHAT EXACTLY HAS
THAT IT‘S WE‘RE STILL LEARNING ABOUT WHAT EXACTLY HAS JOURNALISTS THAT WE‘VE SEEN
ABOUT WHAT EXACTLY HAS JOURNALISTS THAT WE‘VE SEEN KILLED IN THE LAST FEW DAYS.
JOURNALISTS THAT WE‘VE SEEN KILLED IN THE LAST FEW DAYS. WE‘RE NOT SHARING. YOU KNOW, I
KILLED IN THE LAST FEW DAYS. WE‘RE NOT SHARING. YOU KNOW, I THINK YET AS TO WHETHER OR
WE‘RE NOT SHARING. YOU KNOW, I THINK YET AS TO WHETHER OR DELIBERATELY TARGETED BUT
THINK YET AS TO WHETHER OR DELIBERATELY TARGETED BUT OF COURSE, I THINK WE, YOU
DELIBERATELY TARGETED BUT OF COURSE, I THINK WE, YOU KNOW, WE RECOGNIZE THAT
OF COURSE, I THINK WE, YOU KNOW, WE RECOGNIZE THAT LITTLE BIT IN THE CONTEXT OF
KNOW, WE RECOGNIZE THAT LITTLE BIT IN THE CONTEXT OF PUTIN‘S BROADER ASSAULT ON.
LITTLE BIT IN THE CONTEXT OF PUTIN‘S BROADER ASSAULT ON. THE MEDIA WITHIN RUSSIA,
PUTIN‘S BROADER ASSAULT ON. THE MEDIA WITHIN RUSSIA, HIS ATTEMPTS TO CONTROL
THE MEDIA WITHIN RUSSIA, HIS ATTEMPTS TO CONTROL INFORMATION
HIS ATTEMPTS TO CONTROL INFORMATION ABOUT THE WAR.
INFORMATION ABOUT THE WAR. HE‘S REALLY OBLITERATED
ABOUT THE WAR. HE‘S REALLY OBLITERATED INDEPENDENT
HE‘S REALLY OBLITERATED INDEPENDENT MEDIA IN RUSSIA.
INDEPENDENT MEDIA IN RUSSIA. HE‘S MADE IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR
MEDIA IN RUSSIA. HE‘S MADE IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR IT. I THINK HE WOULD GLADLY
HE‘S MADE IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR IT. I THINK HE WOULD GLADLY KEEP ALL OF US IN THE DARK IF
IT. I THINK HE WOULD GLADLY KEEP ALL OF US IN THE DARK IF HE COULD. AND CERTAINLY WE
KEEP ALL OF US IN THE DARK IF HE COULD. AND CERTAINLY WE TARGETING
HE COULD. AND CERTAINLY WE TARGETING CIVILIAN TARGETS. AND OF
TARGETING CIVILIAN TARGETS. AND OF COURSE AS YOU SAID JOURNALISTS
CIVILIAN TARGETS. AND OF COURSE AS YOU SAID JOURNALISTS ARE CONSIDERED
COURSE AS YOU SAID JOURNALISTS ARE CONSIDERED CIVILIANS, AND SO IT VASTLY
ARE CONSIDERED CIVILIANS, AND SO IT VASTLY INCREASES THE RISKS FOR THEM
CIVILIANS, AND SO IT VASTLY INCREASES THE RISKS FOR THEM AS WELL.
INCREASES THE RISKS FOR THEM AS WELL. SO, HOW DOES
AS WELL. SO, HOW DOES UKRAINE COMPARED TO PREVIOUS
SO, HOW DOES UKRAINE COMPARED TO PREVIOUS CONFLICTS WHEN IT COMES TO
UKRAINE COMPARED TO PREVIOUS CONFLICTS WHEN IT COMES TO PRESS SAFETY? BECAUSE IT‘S
CONFLICTS WHEN IT COMES TO PRESS SAFETY? BECAUSE IT‘S EASY TO SAY LOOK. HOW AWFUL
PRESS SAFETY? BECAUSE IT‘S EASY TO SAY LOOK. HOW AWFUL THE RUSSIANS ARE BEING WHICH
EASY TO SAY LOOK. HOW AWFUL THE RUSSIANS ARE BEING WHICH THEY ARE. BUT EVEN THE UNITED
THE RUSSIANS ARE BEING WHICH THEY ARE. BUT EVEN THE UNITED STATES HAS BEEN ACCUSED OF
THEY ARE. BUT EVEN THE UNITED STATES HAS BEEN ACCUSED OF TARGETING JOURNALISTS IN
STATES HAS BEEN ACCUSED OF TARGETING JOURNALISTS IN CONFLICT ZONES, LIKE THE
TARGETING JOURNALISTS IN CONFLICT ZONES, LIKE THE INFAMOUS
CONFLICT ZONES, LIKE THE INFAMOUS 2003 AIR RAID THAT STRUCK
INFAMOUS 2003 AIR RAID THAT STRUCK AL JAZEERA OFFICES. IN BAGHDAD
2003 AIR RAID THAT STRUCK AL JAZEERA OFFICES. IN BAGHDAD KILLING
AL JAZEERA OFFICES. IN BAGHDAD KILLING A REPORTER AND INJURING HIS
KILLING A REPORTER AND INJURING HIS CAMERAMAN AT THE
A REPORTER AND INJURING HIS CAMERAMAN AT THE TIME.
CAMERAMAN AT THE TIME. ABSOLUTELY, AND UNCOVERING
TIME. ABSOLUTELY, AND UNCOVERING WORK IS, OF COURSE IS ALWAYS
ABSOLUTELY, AND UNCOVERING WORK IS, OF COURSE IS ALWAYS EXTREMELY DANGEROUS FOR
WORK IS, OF COURSE IS ALWAYS EXTREMELY DANGEROUS FOR JOURNALISTS
EXTREMELY DANGEROUS FOR JOURNALISTS PART OF THE ISSUE. I THINK
JOURNALISTS PART OF THE ISSUE. I THINK HERE IS THE NATURE OF THIS
PART OF THE ISSUE. I THINK HERE IS THE NATURE OF THIS WAR, AND OF OTHER RECENT
HERE IS THE NATURE OF THIS WAR, AND OF OTHER RECENT WARS LIKE WE‘VE SEEN IN YEMEN
WAR, AND OF OTHER RECENT WARS LIKE WE‘VE SEEN IN YEMEN RUSSIA WAS ALSO INVOLVED AND
WARS LIKE WE‘VE SEEN IN YEMEN RUSSIA WAS ALSO INVOLVED AND IN IRAQ, WHERE,
RUSSIA WAS ALSO INVOLVED AND IN IRAQ, WHERE, YOU KNOW, COMBAT IS OFTEN
IN IRAQ, WHERE, YOU KNOW, COMBAT IS OFTEN HAPPENING. IN URBAN
YOU KNOW, COMBAT IS OFTEN HAPPENING. IN URBAN RESIDENTIAL AREAS. THERE ARE
HAPPENING. IN URBAN RESIDENTIAL AREAS. THERE ARE THERE‘S A COMBINATION OF AIR
RESIDENTIAL AREAS. THERE ARE THERE‘S A COMBINATION OF AIR BOMBARDMENTS, SHELLING GUNFIRE
THERE‘S A COMBINATION OF AIR BOMBARDMENTS, SHELLING GUNFIRE ALL OF THIS, AGAIN, INCREASES
BOMBARDMENTS, SHELLING GUNFIRE ALL OF THIS, AGAIN, INCREASES THE RISKS FOR JOURNALISTS
ALL OF THIS, AGAIN, INCREASES THE RISKS FOR JOURNALISTS MAKES AND MAKES IT EASIER FOR
THE RISKS FOR JOURNALISTS MAKES AND MAKES IT EASIER FOR MILITARIES TO SAY,
MAKES AND MAKES IT EASIER FOR MILITARIES TO SAY, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY THOUGHT
MILITARIES TO SAY, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY THOUGHT TARGET WAS VALID,
YOU KNOW, THAT THEY THOUGHT TARGET WAS VALID, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT
TARGET WAS VALID, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT REITERATES, THE IMPORTANCE,
YOU KNOW, I THINK IT REITERATES, THE IMPORTANCE, BOTH THE DANGERS, THE
REITERATES, THE IMPORTANCE, BOTH THE DANGERS, THE JOURNALISTS FACE, BUT ALSO THE
BOTH THE DANGERS, THE JOURNALISTS FACE, BUT ALSO THE IMPORTANCE OF THEM BEING ON
JOURNALISTS FACE, BUT ALSO THE IMPORTANCE OF THEM BEING ON THE GROUND BECAUSE THEY‘RE THE
IMPORTANCE OF THEM BEING ON THE GROUND BECAUSE THEY‘RE THE ONES WHO CAN ACTUALLY REPORT
THE GROUND BECAUSE THEY‘RE THE ONES WHO CAN ACTUALLY REPORT ON THESE INCIDENTS WHO CAN
ONES WHO CAN ACTUALLY REPORT ON THESE INCIDENTS WHO CAN DOCUMENT, WHAT‘S HAPPENING
ON THESE INCIDENTS WHO CAN DOCUMENT, WHAT‘S HAPPENING AND LAY THE GROUNDWORK FOR
DOCUMENT, WHAT‘S HAPPENING AND LAY THE GROUNDWORK FOR FUTURE,
AND LAY THE GROUNDWORK FOR FUTURE, INVESTIGATIONS AND
FUTURE, INVESTIGATIONS AND ACCOUNTABILITY.
INVESTIGATIONS AND ACCOUNTABILITY. SO, YOU MENTIONED THE
ACCOUNTABILITY. SO, YOU MENTIONED THE ITSELF. WE KNOW RUSSIA IS
SO, YOU MENTIONED THE ITSELF. WE KNOW RUSSIA IS CRACKING DOWN ON
ITSELF. WE KNOW RUSSIA IS CRACKING DOWN ON WAR BACK HOME. WE
CRACKING DOWN ON WAR BACK HOME. WE SAW THE
WAR BACK HOME. WE SAW THE PROTEST YESTERDAY. HOLD UP A
SAW THE PROTEST YESTERDAY. HOLD UP A NO WAR SIGN.
PROTEST YESTERDAY. HOLD UP A NO WAR SIGN. WHAT IS IT LIKE TO BE A
NO WAR SIGN. WHAT IS IT LIKE TO BE A RUSSIAN JOURNALIST OR
WHAT IS IT LIKE TO BE A RUSSIAN JOURNALIST OR PROTESTER FOR THAT MATTER
RUSSIAN JOURNALIST OR PROTESTER FOR THAT MATTER RIGHT NOW?
PROTESTER FOR THAT MATTER RIGHT NOW? IT‘S EXTREMELY HIGH RISK, AND
RIGHT NOW? IT‘S EXTREMELY HIGH RISK, AND I THINK YOU KNOW WHERE I THINK
IT‘S EXTREMELY HIGH RISK, AND I THINK YOU KNOW WHERE I THINK WE‘RE SEEING A LOT OF RUSSIAN
I THINK YOU KNOW WHERE I THINK WE‘RE SEEING A LOT OF RUSSIAN JOURNALISTS WHO ARE LEAVING
WE‘RE SEEING A LOT OF RUSSIAN JOURNALISTS WHO ARE LEAVING THE COUNTRY WHO ARE REALLY
JOURNALISTS WHO ARE LEAVING THE COUNTRY WHO ARE REALLY HAVING TO THINK SERIOUSLY
THE COUNTRY WHO ARE REALLY HAVING TO THINK SERIOUSLY ABOUT WHETHER
HAVING TO THINK SERIOUSLY ABOUT WHETHER THEY CAN CONTINUE TO DO THEIR
ABOUT WHETHER THEY CAN CONTINUE TO DO THEIR WORK AT ALL ANYMORE
THEY CAN CONTINUE TO DO THEIR WORK AT ALL ANYMORE AND THE OTHER AREA OF
WORK AT ALL ANYMORE AND THE OTHER AREA OF RISK HERE THAT I THINK DOESN‘T
AND THE OTHER AREA OF RISK HERE THAT I THINK DOESN‘T GET A LOT OF COVERAGE IS THE
RISK HERE THAT I THINK DOESN‘T GET A LOT OF COVERAGE IS THE FACT THAT FOR UKRAINIAN
GET A LOT OF COVERAGE IS THE FACT THAT FOR UKRAINIAN JOURNALISTS IN THE PARTS OF
FACT THAT FOR UKRAINIAN JOURNALISTS IN THE PARTS OF OF UKRAINE, THAT RUSSIA
JOURNALISTS IN THE PARTS OF OF UKRAINE, THAT RUSSIA INVADED IN 2014,
OF UKRAINE, THAT RUSSIA INVADED IN 2014, AND WE‘RE SEPARATE.
INVADED IN 2014, AND WE‘RE SEPARATE. TESTS HAVE BEEN IN CONTROL IN
AND WE‘RE SEPARATE. TESTS HAVE BEEN IN CONTROL IN THE DOME BOSS AND CRIMEA.
TESTS HAVE BEEN IN CONTROL IN THE DOME BOSS AND CRIMEA. THE RISKS HAVE BEEN VERY HIGH
THE DOME BOSS AND CRIMEA. THE RISKS HAVE BEEN VERY HIGH THIS WHOLE TIME. WE‘VE BEEN
THE RISKS HAVE BEEN VERY HIGH THIS WHOLE TIME. WE‘VE BEEN SEEING UKRAINIAN JOURNALISTS
THIS WHOLE TIME. WE‘VE BEEN SEEING UKRAINIAN JOURNALISTS DETAINED
SEEING UKRAINIAN JOURNALISTS DETAINED HELD FOR YEARS.
DETAINED HELD FOR YEARS. WE JUST SAW
HELD FOR YEARS. WE JUST SAW UKRAINIAN JOURNALISTS
WE JUST SAW UKRAINIAN JOURNALISTS DISAPPEARED OVER THE WEEKEND
UKRAINIAN JOURNALISTS DISAPPEARED OVER THE WEEKEND IN KHERSON AND AREA WHERE
DISAPPEARED OVER THE WEEKEND IN KHERSON AND AREA WHERE THERE ARE NOW RUSSIAN MILITARY
IN KHERSON AND AREA WHERE THERE ARE NOW RUSSIAN MILITARY AND CONTROL. AND SO I THINK
THERE ARE NOW RUSSIAN MILITARY AND CONTROL. AND SO I THINK YOU KNOW, IT‘S NOT IT‘S A
AND CONTROL. AND SO I THINK YOU KNOW, IT‘S NOT IT‘S A THREAT IN RUSSIA. IT‘S A
YOU KNOW, IT‘S NOT IT‘S A THREAT IN RUSSIA. IT‘S A THREAT BECAUSE IT‘S A WAR
THREAT IN RUSSIA. IT‘S A THREAT BECAUSE IT‘S A WAR ZONE,
THREAT BECAUSE IT‘S A WAR ZONE, BUT THE MORE TERRITORY IN
ZONE, BUT THE MORE TERRITORY IN UKRAINE, THE RUSSIAN CONTROLS
BUT THE MORE TERRITORY IN UKRAINE, THE RUSSIAN CONTROLS THE GREATER THE RISKS FOR
UKRAINE, THE RUSSIAN CONTROLS THE GREATER THE RISKS FOR UKRAINIAN JOURNALISTS
THE GREATER THE RISKS FOR UKRAINIAN JOURNALISTS AS WELL.
UKRAINIAN JOURNALISTS AS WELL. QUICK LAST QUESTION, SUMMER.
AS WELL. QUICK LAST QUESTION, SUMMER. IS THERE ANYTHING THAT CAN BE
QUICK LAST QUESTION, SUMMER. IS THERE ANYTHING THAT CAN BE DONE BY
IS THERE ANYTHING THAT CAN BE DONE BY GOVERNMENT CIVIL SOCIETY?
DONE BY GOVERNMENT CIVIL SOCIETY? INTERNATIONAL
GOVERNMENT CIVIL SOCIETY? INTERNATIONAL ORGANIZATIONS, TO KEEP
INTERNATIONAL ORGANIZATIONS, TO KEEP JOURNALIST SAFER.
ORGANIZATIONS, TO KEEP JOURNALIST SAFER. I MEAN, THERE‘S CERTAINLY, YOU
JOURNALIST SAFER. I MEAN, THERE‘S CERTAINLY, YOU PRACTICES FOR JOURNALISTS
I MEAN, THERE‘S CERTAINLY, YOU PRACTICES FOR JOURNALISTS SAFETY. I THINK SPEAKING UP
PRACTICES FOR JOURNALISTS SAFETY. I THINK SPEAKING UP ABOUT IT IS INCREDIBLY,
SAFETY. I THINK SPEAKING UP ABOUT IT IS INCREDIBLY, IMPORTANT
ABOUT IT IS INCREDIBLY, IMPORTANT THAT THE DIRECT TARGETING OF
IMPORTANT THAT THE DIRECT TARGETING OF JOURNALISTS WILL NOT BE
THAT THE DIRECT TARGETING OF JOURNALISTS WILL NOT BE TOLERATED.
JOURNALISTS WILL NOT BE TOLERATED. THAT THERE WILL BE
TOLERATED. THAT THERE WILL BE ACCOUNTABILITY. I THINK THERE
THAT THERE WILL BE ACCOUNTABILITY. I THINK THERE WILL BE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THAT
ACCOUNTABILITY. I THINK THERE WILL BE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THAT DOWN THE LINE. IF THE EVIDENCE
WILL BE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THAT DOWN THE LINE. IF THE EVIDENCE SUGGESTS THEY ARE BEING
DOWN THE LINE. IF THE EVIDENCE SUGGESTS THEY ARE BEING DELIBERATELY TARGETED. AND
SUGGESTS THEY ARE BEING DELIBERATELY TARGETED. AND AGAIN, WE KNOW THAT THERE HAVE
DELIBERATELY TARGETED. AND AGAIN, WE KNOW THAT THERE HAVE BEEN,
JOURNALISTS BY IN
JOURNALISTS BY IN RUSSIAN OCCUPIED AREAS OF
JOURNALISTS BY IN RUSSIAN OCCUPIED AREAS OF UKRAINE IN THE PAST AS WELL.