Matt Gourley, good to see you.
Hi
Sonia Movesesian, how are you?
Hello.
How are your little gentleman doing? The little?
They're very good.
I still sing them the little gentleman's song
and they like it a lot.
How's that go?
♪ My little gentleman ♪
It's when I wipe their mouths.
Aww.
It's the only way they'll be cool.
That's a song?
♪ My little gentlemen ♪
(Matt laughing)
♪ My little gentlemen. ♪
♪ I dab your little face ♪
Okay.
♪ My little gentlemen. ♪
And they like that?
(Matt laughing)
Yeah. I think I could sing anything,
and they'll be like, "eh."
(Matt snorts)
Wow, true mother's love for her children.
(Sonia laughing)
Gourley was lovely seeing your daughter the other day.
Yeah I want to get the word out
that we recorded some Summer S'mores.
And we were over at your house.
Yeah.
And I got to meet your daughter,
which was really nice.
You talkin' 'bout Bill Squishman?
What?
That's her nickname?
What?
(Sonia laughing)
Bill Squishman
Her full nickname is Bill Squishman, founder,
Squishman Enterprises.
Co-founder Seagull Squishman Dynamics,
Quality Through Cuteness.
(Sonia laughing hysterically)
How cute. What?
Yeah That's so sweet.
Why Bill Squishman?
What kind of name is that for a girl?
Take a look at her.
She just looks like a fifties businessman.
(All laughing)
Your daughter does kind of look
like a Eisenhower era, ad exec.
Yeah. Yes.
I'm lost on my own podcast.
I don't know what we're talking about now.
Would you just our Our families.
Our families. Oh
Yeah.
You had nicknames for Neve and Beckett,
I'm sure, that were weird and interesting.
Child one, child two.
Oh
No, you come into a room, and you call people chopper
and stuff like that.
Oh, I love that. I love-
So why can't you wrap your head around this?
No, Bill Squ, it just threw me a little bit.
Okay.
That you switch genders, you know?
But I shouldn't because I know that everyone's gender-fluid.
It's modern times.
Modern times. Yeah.
So your daughter is Bill Squishman,
Head of Squishman Enterprises.
Founder
Founder.
Yeah. Okay.
And head.
And head of, yeah. Title on the business card.
Nice. What a lovely story you'll have for her one day.
"What'd you call me Papa?
Little snookums, snackums?"
"We called you Bill Squishman,
founder of Squishman Enterprises."
(Sonia laughing)
Co-founder Seagull Squishman Dynamics,
Quality Through Cuteness.
How do you feel in your new role as a father?
Do you think you're a good dad, or are you
an awful father? I don't know if I'm
a good dad, but I have never been happier in my life.
I'm crazy about this.
It is insane.
I love it. So much.
It took me years to start to understand
this whole affection for children thing.
Ohh
(Matt laughing)
My kids
Lizza kept saying get in there and try one more time.
(Matt laughing)
Spend more time with them.
I'm like, I don't know. I can't right now.
What does this have to do with my career?
Ohh
(Sonia laughing)
I don't see how this helps me. Waa. Waa.
I look at her and go,
"You can take me away from my career.
I love you so much."
Oh, that's sweet.
Yeah.
You say that but you don't mean it.
Once you're around them for a while,
like more than an hour,
(Matt laughs)
that's when you want out.
I don't, I don't know.
You're a cold,
just withered dead tree
on a hilltop. You know?
You've got no, no emotion, man.
You need to
You're right.
You need to warm up.
Okay. All right.
That's good advice.
Yeah.
That's good advice. I'm gonna do that.
Okay. I'm gonna change completely.
I, obviously, it's a, it's a joke.
I love my children.
I've seen you interact
with your kids, and you're very loving, tender father.
I fight my son a lot.
You guys do wrestle.
I wrestle everybody.
I love physical confrontation.
And I think it's a good way to get closer
to people is to fight them.
You've never fought me.
No, no, I haven't.
(Matt chuckles)
I'm worried about you.
One good punch from me and you might just fall apart.
Oh, really?
Well, it's true.
You, you know, look at me.
I'm a big masculine man. I mean.
Well, I was gonna say I never side with him,
but you do seem a little, not brittle,
What's the word I'm looking
fragile?
Excuse me?
(Sonia laughing)
You do.
I mean, to be fair, you look like you're made of marzipan,
and you're a delicious treat for the holidays, but-
Excuse me?
But I do think that
I was in the theater department.
I'm sure you were.
Okay.
I'm sure you were.
All right. I have a, I have a master's degree in theater.
So let's have some respect here. All right?
I think, like in a cartoon, if I punched you really hard,
you'd explode to a bunch of pieces
and then they would all fall down.
You'd be this nice arrangement of hummel figurines
(Matt laughing)
that would fall down and assemble themselves.
You think I'm fragile?
You're very fragile.
I still own all my Legos. Okay?
(Sonia laughing hysterically)
No, but you know what I mean?
He is.
I'm a guy who can take a punch and give a punch.
No.
I'm a man's man through and through
Well.
I have an anchor tattoo on my arm.
Do we need to arm wrestle? Is that what this is?
Are you-
Arm wrestle doesn't prove anything.
I'm just saying.
Ohh, nice dodge.
(Sound people and Sonia laughing)
Matt, Matt.
Nice Dodge.
If I needed to, I would,
I could claw through your chest
to get through you instantly,
(Sonia laughing)
But I might It would be very soft.
I might just like, right when you do that
I'll bust into a Shakespeare monologue.
What are you gonna do then?
I don't know. You're just a weirdo.
So I would love the two of you fighting.
The picture I have in my head is just this
Well, it's very quick.
It's very quick.
The most pathetic thing I've ever seen.
It's a slap fight.
It is.
I think slap fighting is
Lots of like kicks- A lot of this.
from far away.
And I slap kick and bite if I have to.
But I get the job done. Hmm, really?
That's my motto.
Hmm.
Ehh
Well
I'm sorry I called you fragile.
But I mean, that means that you're not like a fighter.
Yeah, no, I'm not a fighter.
That's a compliment?
I'm a lover. I'm glad to
To do this podcast, we found Yeah.
someone to sit across from me
who makes me feel like a tough guy.
(Sonia laughing)
Oh, man.
That's what we essentially, but that's what
we essentially did.
I feel like Ernest Borgnine over here.
I feel like,
Oh, that's a timely reference
No, I feel like I feel like a big bruiser.
Really? I, let me just take a drink.
(Sonia laughing)
Slurp
I don't know. Is that work?
Is that healthy?
Hmm, sweet chamomile
Yawn.
Yawn. Sleepy time.
(Matt sighs)
All right. Well, should we get into the show?
Yeah.
Yeah, please.
You better before I get angry.
You wouldn't like me when I'm angry.
No.
Ohh, man. It's not working.
It's called cranky.
You wouldn't like me No, fussy.
You wouldn't like me
You wouldn't like me when I get fussy.
It's not the same. It's not the same.
You wouldn't like me when I'm
Don't make me fussy.
You wouldn't like me when I'm fussy.