- I was actually in a keyboard class
in the music conservatory I was attending
for a couple years.
I was supposed to be working on a scale
and I ended up playing those two notes,
♪ Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun ♪
And I immediately abandoned what I was working on
and wrote that riff, the chorus riff.
Went home to our apartment, and put words to it.
The words came from the feeling I had,
'Cause I was kind of in my first real relationship
at the time, and it was just like the simplest thing
I could think of, but it was also like
the truest thing I could think of.
'Cause it was real.
We didn't know what TikTok was.
They were like, lip syncing to it,
this person's making a sandwich to it,
like, I don't understand this.
Downloaded the app, did the homework,
and then it turned out there were
over a million of them with the song on them.
It actually took a while for us
to hunt down all of the different sounds
on TikTok, which were our song.
Put our name on them,
and then the stuff really started to flood in.
Like, okay, who is this band?
What are they up to?
- John was piecing together a montage
of like, all of the biggest TikToks
that have used the song.
And we're realizing how many of them were like, proposals.
I actually started to tear up
when I realized, like, the biggest decision in their life,
this is the soundtrack to it.
She cared about me, like a whole lot.
And like I said, it was like my first serious relationship.
And we just connected so much.
Like we used to Skype until like four in the morning
during, this was high school.
And it was like during a school night.
And for some reason, it was just worth it, you know?
It made me happy in a way that I hadn't quite felt yet.
And I just got to the point, where I was like,
oh, I wanna make you, like my darling.
You know, it's not just like,
"Oh, I think you're cool."
Actually, I thought she was gorgeous.
It was like, no, like I want you to be
kind of a part of me.
I was thinking about when you get in fights.
Sometimes the simplest things can make a fight okay,
and they can kinda make it go away.
And it's sort of like if you reach
a stalemate with somebody.
And you realize that there's no way
of getting past this friction
than just saying, like "Hey, I love you," you know?
"I don't care that you think that that's red,
"and I think it's blue, that's okay.
"I just love you and that's actually what matters more."
And so, kiss me 'til I'm sorry
is like, I almost feel like that's me
realizing that the energy between us,
the time between us, is more important
than like, whatever we were just fighting about.
And it's like realizing, like,
oh man, I'm actually really sorry
that like, I did that.
Because this is so much more special
than whatever the heck we were arguing about.
It doesn't matter.
When you go into a relationship
and you don't have any hesitations,
and like, you know, when you're that young
you don't really have any baggage
from other relationships.
Like, you know, you kind of just are
who you are at that point.
You don't really know if this person
is going to be that one, you know?
You don't know how this is gonna go.
Which is why the relationship
is so exhilarating and stuff.
It's like, I'm gonna go into this thing,
I'm gonna give it my all.
I'm gonna have fun with you, like this is gonna be great.
But I don't know how this is gonna end.
And so that part of the song,
it's an interesting part, but it is really
just in the same vein of like,
this is my first relationship,
it was new, and it ended up not being,
like I'm not in it now.
So it's just, it didn't end up being
what we all think it's gonna be,
you know, when we go into it,
and it's all happy and stuff.
That's vulnerability, you know?
It's like when you start to get to know somebody
and they do something that is
a little out of the ordinary,
which probably means they're starting
to have feelings for you.
You know, like if you say something,
and somebody maybe laughs like a little longer
than they typically do,
or than everybody else does,
or they look at you a little longer.
It's like, those are moments of vulnerability.
And so I think that's when you're starting
to get to know that person.
And people express feelings in different ways, you know?
Like not everyone's a hugger,
not everyone's a kisser.
Like, that's just they way people are.
And so I think that when you start
to get a glimpse of how that person
is opening up to you, and you see that,
it's just really special.
And like, I think it's just a human connection thing.
You know, it's like, oh man,
there was something in the air right there.
And I can't even quite explain it.
But I think that person is starting to actually,
like open up to me.
Like in a way that they're not
opening up to everyone else in the room.
It feels good.
And I'm also like a very romantic person.
Like, I'm kind of a hopeless romantic.
So I think in relationships,
I mean, I've only been in two serious ones,
but like, in the beginning stages,
like I hold on to those things.
'Cause they're unique to that person, for sure.
So one of the things I remember,
after we finished the song,
is I went over to her house.
And she lived in this neighborhood
that had sort of like, it had like a neighborhood pool.
And we used to sit at this neighborhood pool.
And I would open the trunk of my car,
and we would just sit there and talk.
And one time, I opened it, and I had my acoustic guitar.
And I was like, "Hey, I wanna play you this song.
"Because we finished it,
"and I like, I can't stop thinking about it,
"It's so cool."
I played "Make You Mine" for her.
Or some acoustic version of it.
And I remember after that, I told her,
I was like, "Hey, this is very largely about you,
"And like what you and I are doing right now."
And I don't remember what her reaction was.
I mean, she was very sweet,
so like I'm sure it was like, "Wow."
But like, what do you say?
When somebody's like, "Hey, this is about you!"
It's like, "Good."
I don't remember what her reaction was,
but I do specifically remember,
it was like, dusk, and I played the song for her.
And I was just like, it was,
you know, it was a love song.
It's like, "Hey, this is about you."