>>> NO SURPRISE, OPPONENTS OF THE SENATE GOP HEALTH CARE BILL
HAD BEEN LOUD AND UNWAVERING BUT WHAT DO DOCTORS THINK.
FOR ALL THE CRITICISM THERE ARE PHYSICIANS WHO SUPPORT THE PLAN.
I SPOKE TO A GROUP OF DOCTORS ALL WHO VOTED FOR PRESIDENT
TRUMP AND THEY SHARED WITH ME SOME SURPRISING INCITES AND
DIVERSE VIEW POINTS AND NOT ALL OF THEM ARE REPUBLICANS.
>> BY SHOW OF HANDS, TAKE US BACK NINE YEARS, WHO THINKS THAT
OBAMACARE MADE HEALTH CARE BEER FOR PATIENTS?
NO ONE. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE NEW SENATE
HEALTH CARE BILL THAT'S PROPOSED, DO YOU BELIEVE IT IS
BETTER THAN THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT FOR PATIENTS?
>> I THINK IF WE COULD COME UP WITH A ROBUST BIPARTISAN PLAN, A
COMPROMISE PERHAPS, NOT NECESSARILY THE REPEAL AND
REPLACE, SOME WHERE DOCTORS AND PATIENTS STOPPED HAVING A
RELATIONSHIP AND THAT HAPPENED UNDER THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT.
>> YOU DIDN'T RAISE YOUR HAND. >> IF IT PASSES, THE SUCCESS
WILL BE DETERMINED LIKE THE SUCCESS WAS DETERMINED BY THE
ACA. HOW MUCH ARE AVERAGE AMERICANS
PAYING OUT OF POCKET FOR THEIR HEALTH CARE.
>> WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT ALL THE PEOPLE ON MEDICAID, IT'S
CHILDREN, 64% OF PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN NURSING HOMESND THEY'RE
SCARED. THEY'RE SCARED WHEN THEY LOOK AT
THESE NUMBERS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO LOSE THIS PROTECTION.
>> HERE'S A PROBLEM. WE IN THIS COUNTRY FOCUS SO MUCH
ON TREATMENT OF DISEASE. WE NEED TO SHIFT THE FOCUS TO
PREVENTION. YOU DO PREVENTION BY DEVELOPING
A DOCTOR/PATIENT RELATIONSHIP AS NICOLE JUST ALLUDED TO.
YOU CANNOT DEVELOP A DOCTOR/PATIENT RELATIONSHIP WHEN
I HAVE THE GOVERNOR EXAM ROOM. >> GET A RELATIONSHIP WITH A
DOCTOR ON THE OUTSIDE. THAT HASN'T WORKED OUT BECAUSE
DOCTORS DON'T TAKE MEDICAID. >> A LOT OF THE HYPE RIGHT NOW
ABOUT THE MEDICAID CUTS. I DON'T THINK PEOPLE UNDERSTAND
THAT THESE ARE CUTS IN EXISTING BENEFITS.
THESE ARE CUTS IN THE PROGRESSION AND THE INCREASE IN
MEDICAID SPENDING. SHOW OF HANDS.
WHO AGREES THAT THIS NEW SENATE BILL IS MOST BENEFICIAL OR MORE
BENEFICIAL TO THE AVERAGE HARD-WORKING AMERICAN?
>> OH, DEFINITELY. >> WHO AGREES THAT THIS NEW
SENATE BILL IS MOST BENEFICIAL TO POOR AMERICANS?
>> ULTIMATELY. ULTIMATELY.
MY GOAL IS I WANT TO GIVE PEOPLE A CHOICE.
I THINK THAT PART OF WHAT HAS HAPPENED UNDER THE AFFORDABLE
CARE ACT IS WE HAVE TAKEN AWAY CHOICE.
>> SIMPLY GIVING HEALTH INSURANCE OUT DOES NOT EQUATE TO
COVERAGE. SO, WHY IS IT --
>> RESPONSIBILITY ON PATIENTS BY GIVING THEM ROBUST HSA FUNDS.
>> THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT HEALTH CARE COSTS.
THEY HAVE THEIR INSURANCE CARDS --
>> WHAT WILL DRIVE THE COSS DOWN?
>> LIMITING THE COSTS OF PHARMACEUTICALS, ALLOWING
MEDICARE TO NEGOTIATE DRUG PRICES.
ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE COMMON SENSE THAT NO ONE IN CONGRESS
WHETHER THEY WEAR A BLUE T-SHIRT OR RED T-SHIRT HAS THE COURAGE
TO STAND UP AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE FOR
AMERICANS. >> IF WE MANDATED TOTAL PRICE
TRANSPARENCY WHERE AN INDIVIDUAL COULD NOT BE CHARGED BASED ON
THE INSURANCE THEY HAD, BUT RATHER ON THE SERVICE THAT WAS
DELIVERED. FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU WENT TO A
GROCERY STORE AND YOU ASKED, WHAT IS THE COST OF A PRICE OF A
DOZEN EGGS AND THE CLERK SAID TO YOU, WELL, WHAT CREDIT CARD ARE
YOU GOING TO USE OTHERWISE I DON'T KNOW.
THAT'S OUR CURRENT HEALTH CARE SYSTEM.
REALLY QUICK ACROSS THE BOARD. IS THIS BILL FOR ALL PATIENTS
BETTER THAN OBAMACARE?
>> AN ATTEMPT TO BE BETTER. >> YES.
>> WE'LL SEE WITH TIME. >> IF IT IS AN ATTEMPT TO BE
BETTER, IS THERE A SAFETY NET? I LOVE THE IDEA OF FREE MARKETS
BUT IF FREE MARKETS FAIL, MANY OF US HERE CAN SAY, I CAN
PROTECT MY FAMILY. IF THIS EXPERIMENT DOESN'T WORK,
WHERE IS THE SAFETY NET? >> THE SAFETY NET LIES WITHIN
THE STATES. THE STATES WILL HAVE MORE
LIABILITY TO COVER THESE UNINSURED PATIENTS AND WHAT
WE'LL SEE ARE INCREASE IN STATE TAXES.
>> IF YOU WERE TO SIT DOWN WITH MITCH McCONNELL AND SAY LEADER
McCONNELL, HERE IS WHAT YOU NEED TO DO TO GET THIS THING THROUGH.
SPEAKING AS A DOCTOR, WHAT WOULD YOU TELL HIM RIGHT NOW?
>> HOW ABOUT LETTING OTHER GROUPS FORM, NOT JUST EMPLOYER
BASED. SO, IF A GROUP LIKE THE NRA OR,
I DON'T KNOW, SOME OTHER GROUP. OR A TOWNSHIP.
HOW ABOUT TOWNSHIP. >> NR CREATED HEALTH CARE.
>> NO, NO. I'M JUST THINKING OF ANY GROUP
OF PEOPLE. >> I'LL GO WITH A NO ON THAT
ONE. >> OR A TOWNSHIP.
A TOWNSHIP. YOU BUY INTO YOUR TOWNSHIP PLAN.
50,000 PEOPLE WHO ARE BUYING ALL INTO THE SAME HEALTH CARE PLANS.
LET THEM FORM A HEALTH PLAN. >> THE HIPPOCRATIC OATH SAYS,
FIRST, DO NO HARM. AMERICAN MEDICAL ASSOCIATION.
AMERICAN DIABETES ASSOCIATION. AMERICAN CANCER SOCIETY.
AARP HAVE ALL COME OUT AND SAID THIS NEW BILL IS BAD FOR
PATIENTS. WHAT AM I MISSING?
>> FIRST OF ALL, THE AMA DOES NOT REPRESENT DOCTORS.
THAT IS, UNFORTUNATELY, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT GET MOST OF US
ANGRY. COME OUT AND MAKE STATEMENTS ON
OUR BEHALF. >> THE PRESIDENT HAS SAID HEALTH
CARE. WHO KNEW HOW COMPLICATED IT
WOULD BE AND CLEARLY MORE AND MORE PEOPLE ARE LEARNING HOW
COMPLICATED IT IS. >> MY DAUGHTER IS A HIGH-RISK
PATIENT. WHEN SHE WAS 4 SHE WAS DIAGNOSED
WITH TYPE 1 DIABETES. I LIVED THIS NOT ONLY AS A
PHYSICIAN, BUT AS A FATHER AND A DAD.
>> IT ALLOWS CHOICE AND MORE FREEDOM AND IT DOESN'T SAY YOU
HAVE TO GO TO THIS ENDOCRINOLOGIST BECAUSE THE ONE
YOU HAVE BEEN WITH FOR 15 YEARS IS NOT IN THE SAME SYSTEM.
>> IF YOU MADE $20,000, WOULD THIS BILL BE BETTER FOR YOUR
DAUGHTER? >> I DO.
IT ALLOWS THE OPPORTUNITY TO PUT THE MONEY IN THE HEALTH SAVINGS