>>> GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE. I’M MEGYN KELLY.
WE HAVE A LOT TO GET TO THIS
MORNING.
MORNING. CONTROVERSY OVER THE CASTING OF
BAT WOMAN TO THE QUESTION
WHETHER OR NOT KIDS SHOULD HAVE
CELL PHONES IN SCHOOLS.
ONE COUNTRY DOESN’T THINK SO AND
THEY ARE ACTUALLY BANNING THEM.
JOINING PLE TO DISCUSS WHAT’S
MAKING THE ROUNDS NBC
CORRESPONDENT STEPHANIE GOSK AND
JO LING KENT AND MATT ISEMAN
COME HOST OF --
>> "AMERICAN NINJA WARRIOR."
>>> OKAY.
>>> OKAY. AND WE BEGIN TODAY WITH A
PROVOCATIVE TOPIC ABOUT THE
ACTRESS WHO LANDED A DREAM
SUPERHERO ROLE AND THEN HAD TO
QUIT TWITTER BECAUSE OF THE
TROLLS LASHING OUT ONLINE AND
HARASSING HER OVER IT.
RUBY ROSE IS THE NAME OF THE
ACTRESS.
ACTRESS. SHE WAS CAST AS BAT WOMAN
BECAUSE THE CW WANTS ACTUALLY --
THEY WANTED AN OUT ACTRESS TO
PLAY BATMAN.
PLAY BATMAN. THEY INTENTIONALLY CAST
SOMEBODY, SHE’S BEEN OUT SINCE
SHE WAS 12.
THE BACKLASH IN THIS CASE IS
FROM THE LEFT SAYING SHE’S --
IT’S NOT CLEAR BUT THEY DON’T
THINK -- GAY ENOUGH.
>> THEY DON’T THINK SHE’S -- IF
SHE’S NOT GAY ENOUGH, I’M
DEFINITELY NOT GAY ENOUGH.
IT MAKES MY HEAD EXPLODE.
THIS IS A MOVEMENT, THE
HYPOCRISY IS UNBELIEVABLE.
THIS IS A MOVEMENT THAT’S
SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT INCLUSION
AND SUDDENLY SHE’S NOT GAY
ENOUGH.
ENOUGH. IT PELOSI MY MIND.
>> THEY SEEM TO BE UPSET BECAUSE
SHE IS -- SHE SAYS THAT SHE’S A
LESBIAN BUT SHE’S GENDER FLUID.
SO THAT APPARENTLY HAS CREATED
AN ASTERISK ON HER SEXUALITY IN
THE EYES OF SOME.
THE TWO THINGS ARE NOT
NECESSARILY RELATED.
NECESSARILY RELATED. YOU CAN BE -- ANYWAY, THEY ARE
UPSET BECAUSE THEY WANT SOMEBODY
WHO IS A LESBIAN AND NOT GENDER
FLUID TO PLAY THE ROLE.
>> TO ME WHAT I DON’T LIKE IS
THE CONCEPT OF HAVING TO -- IT’S
AGAIN COMING DOWN TO YOU’RE
GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE PAPERS OR
HAVE TO PROVE TO THESE PEOPLE.
WHAT IF YOU’RE NOT OUT, YOU’RE
CLOSETED.
CLOSETED. AUTO YOUR A LESBIAN BUT DIDN’T
WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT.
NOW YOU HAVE TO SAY I’M GOING
PUBLIC WITH THIS RATHER THAN
SAYING CAN YOU ACT?
CAN YOU PERFORM THIS ROLE?
HAVING SAID THAT, I UNDERSTAND.
I UNDERSTAND THE POINT OF THIS
IS TO GET MORE PEOPLE OF DIVERSE
BACKGROUNDS WHETHER IT BE YOUR
SEXUAL IDENTITY, YOUR
PREFERENCE, WHATEVER IT IS, TO
GET MORE PEOPLE INVOLVED IN
HOLLYWOOD.
HOLLYWOOD. BUT I DON’T KNOW THIS OUTRAGE
MOB, THE SAME THING WE SAW WITH
SCARLETT JOHANSSON WITH THAT
GREAT MOVIE RUB AND TUG, WHERE
SHE BOWED OUT OF THE ROLE.
>> SHE GOT SHAMED OUT OF THE
TITLE ROLE ABOUT A FILM ABOUT A
TRANSGENDER MAN.
TRANSGENDER MAN. INSTEAD OF TURNING AROUND AND
CASTING A TRANS PERPSON TO PLAY
THE PART WHEN SCARLETT JOHANSSON
BACKED OUT OF IT, THE MOVIE IS
IN LIMBO.
IN LIMBO. THE MOVIE ABOUT THE TRANSGENDER
MAN, DOESN’T LOOK GOOD FOR IT.
HOPE SPRINGS ETERNAL THEY ARE
GOING TO DO THE RIGHT THING.
RIGHT NOW IT HASN’T HELPED THE
TRANS COMMUNITY.
TRANS COMMUNITY. >> IT’S HAPPENING ACROSS ALL
DIFFERENT ETHNIC BACKGROUNDS,
SEXUALITY.
SEXUALITY. WHAT WE’RE SEEING -- I JUST
INTERVIEWED THE STAR OF "CRAZY
RICH ASIANS."
RICH ASIANS." IS THAT A MOVIE, "CRAZY RICH
ASIANS."
ASIANS." >> IT’S COMING OUT WEDNESDAY.
IT’S A HUGE DEAL, FIRST MOVIE TO
FEATURE ALL ASIAN CAST.
I INTERVIEWED HIM AND HE’S
GETTING BELOWBACK FOR NOT BEING
ASIAN ENOUGH.
ASIAN ENOUGH. HE’S HALF MALAYSIAN.
I SAID HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT
THAT.
THAT. I GREW UP IN MALAYSIA.
I IDENTIFY AS ASIAN.
I’M GLAD WE’RE HAVING THIS
CONVERSATION BUT ISN’T THAT
ENOUGH.
ENOUGH. IT’S HAPPENING EVERYWHERE.
>> IT’S FUNNY.
WE HAVE A DEBATE A COUPLE YEARS
AGO ABOUT ELIZABETH WARREN
CLAIMED TO BE A NATIVE AMERICAN
EVEN THOUGH SHE DOESN’T APPEAR
TO BE ONE.
I HAD SOMEBODY ON THE PANEL SAID
SHE WAS TOLD BY HER GRANDPARENTS
AND THAT’S GOOD ENOUGH.
PICK A LANE.
DO WE GET TO DECIDE OR DO WE
HAVE TO PROVE WITH OUR GENEALOGY
PAPERS, GAY PAPERS, STRAIGHT
PAPER, WE DON’T KNOW ANYWHERE.
>> GOOD POINT.
THIS GOES BACK AGAIN WHEN YOU
THINK OF THREE FIST COMP--
THREE-FIFTH COMPROMISE.
THREE-FIFTH COMPROMISE. AFRICAN-AMERICANS CONSIDERED
AFRICAN-AMERICANS CONSIDERED THREE-FIFTHS PERSON.
THREE-FIFTHS PERSON. THAT’S CONSIDERED ONE OF THE,
TODAYEST CHAPTERS OF OUR COUNTRY
AND WE’RE GETTING BACK TO THIS.
HOW OUT ARE YOU?
ARE YOU FULLY OUT?
YOU DON’T MEET OUR CRITERIA.
RUBY ROSE ONLINE AFTER QUITTING
TWITTER, FOR FIVE YEARS I’VE
BEEN GETTING HARASSED AS TOO
GAY.
GAY. FOR FIVE YEARS I’VE BEEN GETTING
HARASSED AS TOO GAY AND NOW I’M
NOT GAY ENOUGH.
>> IT’S RIDICULOUS.
>> YOU GET IT FROM BOTH SIDES.
I WAS LOOKING THE A AN ARTICLE
RECENTLY.
RECENTLY. I’M NOT GOING TO REPEAT THE NAME
OF THE WEBSITE.
IT’S A WEBSITE THAT’S POPULAR
AND A LOT OF PEOPLE GO TO THAT
WAS RIMGPPING ON FOX NEWS FOR
BEING TOO GAY, TOO ACCEPTING OF
A OF GAY, TOO MANY ANCHORS,
CELEBRATING GAY RNLG MAKE.MARRIA
YOU HAVE THE CRAZIES ON THE
RIGHT GOING NUTS FOR ACCEPTING
DIVERSITY AND CRAZIES ON THE
LEFT WHO ARE GOING TO RIP YOU
FOR NOT BEING WHATEVER IT IS
ENOUGH.
ENOUGH. >> IT’S SO HATEFUL.
THAT’S WHAT I REALLY DON’T LIKE
ABOUT IT.
ABOUT IT. >> IT’S THE OUTRAGE METER.
>> PUT YOUR SELF OUT THERE.
>> PEOPLE ARE GETTING SO ANGRY
ABOUT EVERYTHING.
ABOUT EVERYTHING. LET’S NOT LOSE SIGHT OF THE FACT
THIS IS A CW SERIES ABOUT A
SUPERHERO.
SUPERHERO. THIS IS NOT THE FOUNDATION UPON
WHICH OUR SOCIETY RESTS.
>> THEY ALSO FORGET NOT ONLY WAS
SHE LESBIAN BUT SHE’S JEWISH AND
NOBODY IS TALKING ABOUT THAT.
WHAT IS THIS?
THE OTHER THING, THOUGH, WE
SOMETIMES AMPLIFY THIS BECAUSE
OF SOCIAL MEDIA.
WHEN IN REALITY YOU GO BACK AND
LOOK AT THE OUTRAGE, YOU’LL SEE
IT’S TWO OR THREE PEOPLE WITH 40
FOLLOWERS WHO JUST -- A SLOW
NEWS DAY SOMEBODY PICKS UP ON
THIS STORY AND WE CREATE THE
OUTRAGE WHEN REALLY IT’S A
COUPLE OF PEOPLE WHO ARE SAYING
THIS.
THIS. >> THE PEOPLE HARASSING HER,
RUBY ROSE, IT DOESN’T SEEM LIKE
IT’S GLAD.
IT’S GLAD. GLADD CAME OUT THE OTHER WEEK
WITH LEGITIMATE SUGGESTS SAYING,
LOOK, WE NEED MORE ROLES AND
MORE IMPORTANT TRAILS ON THE BIG
SCREEN OF GAY AND LESBIAN PEOPLE
AND TRANS PEOPLE THAT AREN’T
DIMINISHING, DON’T PORTRAY EVERY
TRANS PERSON AS PSYCHOTIC OR
VICTIM.
VICTIM. THAT’S IMPORTANT HAVE ROLES ON
TELEVISION REPRESENTING
TELEVISION REPRESENTING DIFFERENT GROUPS THAT DON’T
PORTRAY THEM AS OTHER, ALWAYS
OTHER, AS OPPOSED TO JUST LIKE
REGULAR, PART OF LIFE, THE WAY
IT ACTUALLY IS.
I THINK THAT’S LEGIT.
BUT REQUIRING -- REQUIRING
SOMEBODY PAST YOUR OWN LITMUS
TEST FOR GAY ENOUGH OR LESBIAN
ENOUGH OR TRANS ENOUGH OR
WHATEVER IT IS ENOUGH IS GOING
TO BE EXHAUSTING AND WE’RE GOING
TO HAVE TO CREATE A WHOLE
SEPARATE POLICING BOARD TO MAKE
SURE YOU PASS THE MUSTER.
>> DISNEY IS GOING THROUGH IT
NOW WITH THE NEW "JUNGLE BOOK."
IT’S THEIR FIRST OPENLY GAY
CHARACTER IS IN THE NEW MOVIE
AND THEY CAST A STRAIGHT GUY.
NOW THEY ARE GETTING BACKLASH ON
THIS.
THIS. REALLY, DISNEY, AFTER ALL THIS
TIME WHERE OBVIOUSLY I THINK
MAKE PEOPLE PORTRAYING SOME OF
THESE CHARACTERS WHO WERE GAY
BUT TO HAVE THE FIRST OPENLY GAY
PERSON NOT TO BE PORTRAYED BY A
GAY PERSON, DISNEY IS GETTING
BACKLASH FOR THIS NOW.
FOR THIS GUY TO GO BACK TO, HE
SAYS HE’S STRAIGHT BUT WHAT IF
HE’S NOT COMFORTABLE COMING OUT.
WHAT AN UNCOMFORTABLE POSITION
FOR HIM TO BE IN NOW.
>> A LOT OF PEOPLE FEEL IT’S
NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS WHAT YOUR
SEXUALITY IS, WHAT I DO IN THE
BEDROOM.
BEDROOM. >> I DON’T HAVE TO SHARE.
>> I DON’T HAVE TO SHARE.
I WAS JUST SAYING WHEN WE CAME
OUT HERE, TODAY MY OUTFIT, I
LOOK A LITTLE DOM, SUB MISSIVE,
DOMINANT, "FIFTY SHADES OF
GREY."
GREY." WHETHER IT’S TRUE OR NOT IS NONE
OF YOUR BUSINESS.
NUNYA PRCHLT WE HAVE
NUNYA.
NUNYA. WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT CELL
PHONES.
PHONES. I HAVE KIDS, YOU HAVE KIDS.
THEY ARE BECOMING UBIQUITOUS.
MY KIDS ARE LITTLE.
I SEE THEM IN ELEMENTARY
SCHOOLS.
SCHOOLS. OVER IN FRANCE THEY DECIDED NO
MORE.
MORE. THEY ARE BANNING CELL PHONES FOR
ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AGE CHILDREN.
THE QUESTION IS WHETHER WE
SHOULD DO THAT HERE.
>> I THINK IT’S A GREAT IDEA.
I ABSOLUTELY DO.
THE CRITICISM OF THE IDEA, WELL,
IT’S IN THE FACE OF TECHNOLOGY
AND YOU HAVE TO ACCEPT THIS IS
THE WORLD WE LIVE IN.
I THINK YOU CAN ACCEPT THIS THE
WORLD YOU LIVE IN AND MANAGE IT
THIS WAY.
THIS WAY. BE BETTER MANAGERS OF IT.
THEY ARE ADDICTIVE.
PEOPLE GET HOOKED.
KIDS AREN’T MATURE ENOUGH.
ADULTS AREN’T MATURE ENOUGH.
>> RIGHT.
>> RIGHT. >> WE SHOULD MONITOR IT, WE
SHOULD MANAGE IT, AND SCHOOL IS
THE WRONG PLACE FOR THESE KIDS
TO HAVE SMARTPHONES.
>> COMPLETELY AGREE BRF THE
ADDICTION WE’RE SEEING IN OUR
SOCIETY IS GOING TO HAVE
IRREVERSIBLE DAMAGE GOING
FORWARD.
FORWARD. I COVER TECHNOLOGY AND YOU SEE
IT EVERY SINGLE DAY, WHETHER HOW
MUCH TEAM YOU SPEND ON
INSTAGRAM.
INSTAGRAM. BY THE WAY I MOVE MY INSTAGRAM
OVER THREE PAGES.
YOU GUYS KNOW WHAT I’M TALKING
ABOUT SO I DON’T WASTE SO MUCH
TIME ON IT.
THERE IS DAMAGE TO BE DONE.
SO MAYBE OLD SCHOOL LEARNING
ENVIRONMENT ISN’T SO BAD AFTER
ALL.
ALL. >> CELL PHONES ARE THE WONDER
KILLER.
KILLER. THEY ARE.
THEY ARE. IT’S LIKE YOU LOOK EVERYTHING
UP.
UP. YOU HAVE THE ANSWER TO
EVERYTHING.
EVERYTHING. WHAT DOES A KID NEED TO TWEET IN
THE MIDDLE OF CALCULUS CLASS,
RIGHT?
RIGHT? ♪ DO YOU LOVE ME ♪
>> YES, MATT ISEMAN, THEY DO.
NOT ALL THINGS COMING OUT OF
FRANCE -- NOT ALL THINGS ARE
GOOD, NOT ALL THINGS ARE BAD.
THE OTHER THING FRANCE IS DOING
TODAY.
TODAY. WE HAVE TWO STORIES FOR YOU ON
FRANCE.
FRANCE. YOU EVER WALK ON THE STREET AND
YOU SMELL THE SMELL OF URINE
BECAUSE SOMEBODY HAS RELIEVED
THEMSELVES.
THEMSELVES. >> DON’T LOOK AT ME.
>> IN THE WRONG PLACE.
WHATEVER.
WHATEVER. THEY CHOSE NOT TO USE A REST
ROOM OR COULDN’T FIND IT,
WHATEVER IT IS.
FRANCE HAS NOW INSTITUTED THE
PUBLIC URINAL.
PUBLIC URINAL. DO WE HAVE A PICTURE OF THIS?
YOU CAN SEE.
IT’S ON THAT LITTLE BORLAND.
IT’S LIKE A BOX.
>> GROSS.
>> GROSS. >> CAN YOU SEE THE LITTLE SIGN
ABOVE IT?
ABOVE IT? IT SHOWS YOU WHAT TO DO.
SEE THE MAN, HE’S BENDING BACK.
>> I WILL SAY THIS IS FOR MEN
ONLY.
ONLY. >> IS THAT HOW THEY DO IT, LEAN
WAY BACK AT THE URINAL.
YEAH.
YEAH. >> ONE-HANDED.
>> ONE-HANDED. HONESTLY, LOOK, WE’RE IN NEW
YORK.
YORK. IF YOU WALK AROUND, YOU’LL SEE
PEOPLE RELIEVE THEMSELVES.
I DON’T THINK THIS IS A BAD
IDEA.
IDEA. IF YOU’RE GOING TO DO IT, LET’S
AT LEAST TRY TO M’S CONTAIN IT.
IT’S COMPOSTABLE, TURNS WASTE
INTO SOMETHING POSITIVE.
>> ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
THE NEXT TIME IF I WALK IN AND
THAT IS UP I’M GOING TO BE
REALLY --
REALLY -- >> WOULD YOU RATHER HAVE IT
SOMEBODY DOING IT -- SOMEBODY
RANDOMLY GOING.
RANDOMLY GOING. THE PROBLEM IS PEOPLE WERE JUST
GOING IN PUBLIC.
>> THIS IS ENABLING MORE GUYS TO
DO THIS.
DO THIS. I’M NOT ON BOARD WITH THAT IDEA.
>> WHAT ABOUT THE WOMEN?
WHAT ABOUT US?
WE’RE GOING TO BE OUT THERE
LIKE -- CAN I SEE THE PICTURE?
IS IT LOW ENOUGH FOR US?
SHOW THE PICTURE.
>> A QUESTION OF EQUALITY.
>> FRANCE DOESN’T SMELL THAT
GOOD TO BEGIN WITH.
ANYTHING THAT CAN MAKE IT SMELL
BETTER, I’M ALL IN FAVOR OF.
>> DRINK SOME MORE WINE.
I DON’T THINK THAT’S LOW ENOUGH
FOR US, LADIES.
THANK YOU, PANEL.
THAT WAS FUN.
DON’T FORGET YOU CAN CATCH MATT