[SKATEBOARD SOUNDS]
PATRICK O'DELL: Oh, was the Boneless invented in
Cincinnati?
JAMES KELCH: Yeah, actually the Boneless
was invented at Dio's.
It's down the street from the block.
It's the doctor's office banks.
Gary, Scott, Davis.
PATRICK O'DELL: Oh, GSD?
JAMES KELCH: GSD.
PATRICK O'DELL: You want to go down there and look at that?
JAMES KELCH: Yeah.
PATRICK O'DELL: Well, see it's better if you drive, cause
then I sit shotgun and film.
JAMES KELCH: Yeah, exactly.
So then we'll just jump my car and move the
shit out of the seat.
We might go film this.
I don't want to buy a new battery.
It costs like $70.
This is my neighbor, she lives across the street, Ohio style.
See her?
She walks every day, to lose weight.
But she walks to Wendy's.
Comes back with a big-ass bag of it hidden in her
sweat-coat.
I see it peeking out all the time.
Had this car a long time, bought it brand new.
You remember this?
This is that car.
PATRICK O'DELL: I don't remember.
PATRICK O'DELL: Remember the one we drove down on the spots
in the black Saturn in Frisco?
PATRICK O'DELL: Oh, yeah?
JAMES KELCH: This is it.
Shit still runs.
Other people's Saturns break down.
Just got to know how to take care of them.
PATRICK O'DELL: Remember you lived in a house that a serial
killer used to live there?
JAMES KELCH: Yeah.
He woke up in the middle of the night, never done nothing
wrong in his life, goes down to the TL, gets prostitutes
and murders them.
That was it.
That was his whole shit.
He went on a killing spree.
PATRICK O'DELL: Does that freak you out at all?
JAMES KELCH: Nah.
PATRICK O'DELL: Does it freak your girlfriend out?
JAMES KELCH: She thought it was strange, yeah.
Then after a while she thought it was hella cool.
She'd tell people.
Yeah, she's just like me she's a maniac too.
PATRICK O'DELL: Crazy you've been going with out with her
for so long.
JAMES KELCH: 14 years, 15 years now.
PATRICK O'DELL: You're going to have kids?
JAMES KELCH: Probably not.
PATRICK O'DELL: Never?
JAMES KELCH: I'm still a kid.
I run the streets like a maniac.
I'm a 37 year old man, who just wakes up, takes a shower,
eats food, plays PlayStation, goes skating.
Then I come home and do it all again.
I'm going to do till I can't walk.
That's why I'm growing my hair.
When I can't no more and I can't skate, then
I'll move to Hawaii.
And I'll push around on a long board and wax surfboards at a
surf shop or eat coconuts.
That's my dream.
But my girl don't want no kids.
And I can't have one on my own, so
we'll see what happens.
But she's changing as she's getting older.
She might come around.
She's a rager too.
She just smokes the bong and works hard, man.
She earns a lot of money to take care of her mom.
PATRICK O'DELL: Is that her mom?
JAMES KELCH: Yeah.
You guys have to take care of her?
JAMES KELCH: Oh, totally.
She got cancer real bad.
Then they beat it, the shit came back
gnarly, like fuck you.
Here's the banks.
You can't skate right now, though.
It's open.
You'll go to jail.
But I actually heard them talking to a sheriff and
talking to the skate shop.
They might make it to where we're allowed to skate here
when they're closed.
And they'll put a trash can and everything.
PATRICK O'DELL: Wait, is where the Boneless was invented?
JAMES KELCH: Yeah, right here.
GSD Boneless
PATRICK O'DELL: What year was that, you think?
JAMES KELCH: '82, '83, something like that , I guess?
'81 even?
I don't know.
Because I can remember being in Santa Cruz in '86 , when
the Russian Boneless was the brand new trick.
PATRICK O'DELL: The Russian Boneless?
JAMES KELCH: Yeah.
I was sitting there.
I had an ATV, an all terrain vehicle, Schmitt stick.
So kid comes up to me, some man, actually, to me.
And he was like, "have you seen scales, eh?
Have you seen the Russian Boneless?
I was like, no.
Showed it to me.
I learned it next day.
PATRICK O'DELL: What is it?
JAMES KELCH: I just filmed it, dude, in this little video
clip I have on YouTube or wherever the hell it's at.
It's in my friend's video.
I do a Russian Boneless on a Zip Zinger.
It's where you do a regular Boneless but then you jump all
over it, this foot and land this way.
Then you jump back on your board.
PATRICK O'DELL: Who are the best skaters from Ohio?
JAMES KELCH: Cincinnati?
Kokomo Joe, Gary Collins, Ned Keller.
Dave Cato just turned pro for [INAUDIBLE] or whatever.
Here's the hit.
This wall, right here.
You see how we've been hitting the top of it up.
It's fucking gnarly.
Anyway, illest thing ever, though, is I've seen Al Davis
do a Backside 180 to Fakie Nosegrind on it into the bank.
[MAN TALKING]
PATRICK O'DELL: We're just talking about skateboarding.
Well this is one of the original skateboarding spots
in all the world.
And we're filming it and talking about it.
Do is you see a skateboard under my feet?
I know I already went to jail for that a long time ago.
But look under my feet, no skateboard.
Do you know what they do for a skateboard trespassing?
You know what happens at court?
They throw it out.
Yeah, me too.
I go all the time.
How much trouble can you get for trespassing?
No.
Money.
No jail.
It's not breaking and entering.
It's only called trespassing.
What are going to go for, two days?
A half a day?
The fine's like $80.
I'm not arguing with you.
I'm taking about the bank, man.
Well, call the police then.
I'm going to put a note on the website that if skate at Dios
and you come out, don't talk to you.
What do you do for fun?
Talk shit.
Jesus.
"I like for you to put on the website, this place is longer
good for skateboarding" Jesus, man.
"I hope you will not skate here." I got those new shoes
those wheels on them.
I was going to kick flip.
See that's that guy, blood.
He sucks.
Here's the block.
There's skaters on it right now.
PATRICK O'DELL: Who are those dudes?
JAMES KELCH: Randoms.
One of them probably be one of my friends.
PATRICK O'DELL: All skaters in Cincinnati have long hair.
JAMES KELCH: Yeah, we're trash.
Jeep ain't going to let me over?
He is.
Good man.
We just do flat land on this street and hang out, watch all
the girls, cause there's a tanning salon right here and
the college is right on the corner.
But the cops are here right now.
Alexander busting the dudes.
But Alexander's my buddy.
Watch, I'll go harass him.
He won't bust me.
Looking for a bad guy, man?
ALEXANDER: Yeah.
JAMES KELCH: What'd he look like?
ALEXANDER: All these posers.
JAMES KELCH: We the real skaters.
We the real skaters.
Ah ha!
Big Nate!
It's a reunion here real quick.
BIG NATE: Yeah.
JAMES KELCH: Where it at?
BIG NATE: Hell yeah.
JAMES KELCH: Look at 'em!
Ha ha ha!
Looks like a pod.
NED KELLER: [INAUDIBLE]
JAMES KELCH: Yeah.
NED KELLER: You got hair?
JAMES KELCH: Yeah.
NED KELLER: Damn James.
That's fucking cool.
It's like you got ear muffs on.
What the fuck's with that?
JAMES KELCH: What'd you do, shave?
MALE SPEAKER: Yeah, what's going on man?
Good to see you buddy.
JAMES KELCH: Chilling.
This is the little block.
We all just hang out here and skate for no reason at all.
PATRICK O'DELL: Nothing to grind?
JAMES KELCH: Right there.
And if wasn't for me, it wouldn't be.
I waxed it up and made it work.
Everyone else was like, what are doing?
I was like, you got to have a curb or something, man.
We got a tail-slide over there, a little
bank down the street.
But there's a lot of spots around here.
We just look up here and skate flat ground.
I like this spot.
It makes me happy.
[SKATEBOARD SOUNDS]
NED KELLER: This is my spot.
This is why everyone's here right now, cause
this where I skate.
Everything you right now before you is all made by me,
100% complete.
JAMES KELCH: [INAUDIBLE]
JAMES KELCH: Hamilton's own, Cricket.
NED KELLER: I skated fly here, for deep.
And now it's like a war zone.
Now I'm not up here to regulate, it's all junkies and
thugs and fucking dickheads up here, man.
JAMES KELCH: I won't regulate no more, man.
I gave up.
NED KELLER: I'll regulate quick though, as long as I'm
here for a week.
JAMES KELCH: I'm out a lot.
NED KELLER: I broke my finger last night having to deal with
the junkies, man.
He was down at the bar.
And he was fucking starting fights and blacked out on
drugs or whatever the fuck
JAMES KELCH: Yeah, as always.
NED KELLER: And he did it again.
I picked him up by his sweatshirt, picked him up,
took him out of his seat, slammed him on the ground.
I drug him through the bar like this on his back.
He was sliding through the park.
I pull him like this and the door on his ass.
It was hilarious.
But whatever.
He had to get kicked out.
JAMES KELCH: Yeah, gotta take 'em out of the game, man.
We beat up junkies now, cause if it used to be junkies then
we tried to teach 'em.
But they don't listen, so we beat 'em all up.
What's wrong with your ankle, man.
NED KELLER: He's faking a limp.
JAMES KELCH: Walk straight kid.
KID: Wassup.
Ha ha.
JAMES KELCH: Embarcadero, I mean, the
block's holding it down.
It's the new Embarco, son.
We just chill here for no reason.
We're just here.
Want me to do a 350, first try for you?
Alright.
With my coat on and a cigarette?
And I ain't skated in six days?
[SKATEBOARD SOUNDS]
Not first try.
PATRICK O'DELL: Do it again, we'll just edit it.
JAMES KELCH: Alright.
You'll be to tell, though.
And I just busted my groin.
PATRICK O'DELL: Oh, is that your camera?
JAMES KELCH: Yeah.
This is how James starts his car, every time.
Cause I'm not sponsored by Quicksilver.
NED KELLER: Last time I checked, I didn't think it's
cause your car, man.
JAMES KELCH: I ain't getting no Quicksilver money.
Well, you just quit jocking.
PATRICK O'DELL: You think when you go to other cities like
San Francisco people don't believe that
Ohio has shitty areas.
JAMES KELCH: Ah, yeah.
I used to tell the guys, back when I was younger on the
Embarcadero, I'd tell the dudes all the time, I'd be
like, man, if I brought all the crazy, natty dudes out
here they'd take this whole city over.
There's some rough, rugged individuals.
But most of them are just backwards as fuck.
Never been to a real place, don't know anything except
their block.
Real closed in views about everything.
Like any time anyone around even hears the word San
Francisco "I heard about that place.
All faggots."
Here look at this.
From right here, where these two big 12-storey projects
start, all the way over, as far as you can see, brick.
All over again, til you see that red Sheraton, all the
way, all the way, all the way, all the way--
So right there.
That's nothing but projects and ghetto.
That's all that is.
You don't even want to go through it.
It's gnarly.
PATRICK O'DELL: So your neighborhood is not as bad?
JAMES KELCH: My neighborhood, like you saw, I just leave my
keys in my car, my boards on my porch.
UPS just throws the shit.
On the front yard.
Whatever.
Yeah, my neighborhood's fine.
PATRICK O'DELL: Look at that smoke it's like--
JAMES KELCH: Factories.
It's gross.
Look at all those bubble places up there.
You see those little white things in the hill?
It's like some kind of fucking crazy Avon test on monkeys
factory or something.
PATRICK O'DELL: How do you drinking and drugs affects
skating or effected your skating.
JAMES KELCH: Even in my early interviews and shit, I was
dropping hella little hints.
I would say so much stuff that strictly referred to me doing
drugs and I was out of control.
It was hilarious.
PATRICK O'DELL: Wasn't Hubba Hide Out?
JAMES KELCH: Hubba Hide Out was named that because me and
people I won't mention, because there's no reason to
drag them through the dirt.
We'd go out there we would smoke hella rocks, man.
Crack.
Straight up.
Lots of people that everybody knows.
So many, you would never even think.
PATRICK O'DELL: So did you come up with
the term Hubba, then?
JAMES KELCH: Someone tried to give me credit for that one
time, like I made up that word.
But nah.
I used to hear the little ghetto kid saying it.
It's just a slang term for crack from the ghetto kids.
PATRICK O'DELL: But as a term that's used in skateboarding?
JAMES KELCH: Ah yeah, for sure come up with it.
I called it Hubba Hideout.
"Let's go to the Hubba Hideout.
Let's go to the Hubba.
Let's go to the Hubba."
PATRICK O'DELL: Before people were even skating there?
JAMES KELCH: But it was called Hubba, just the spot.
It wasn't even that rail, down those stairs.
It was actually--
If you went up the stairs there's a little plaza.
You can sit on benches.
That was Hubba Hideout.
We started noticing that they could see us from
the building windows.
So we started moving down.
We would hide on the stairs and the Hubba
would hide our faces.
No one could tell we were sitting there from the sides.
Back in the day, before it was actually turned into a skate
spot, people would just be like, "Oh let's got to the
Hubba." That's where we'd go drink, smoke
weed, do drugs, whatever.
No one could see.
And then one day, we were leaving after smoking weed and
drinking and Mike Carol just flat-out olied the first set
of stairs in and then rail slid the Hubba.
We all just fell out.
No one even knew.
No one looked at that.
No one was going to say like--
We'd jump the stairs and thought that was sick,
straight up.
Jumping those stairs was big back in the day.
That was a big set of stairs, man.
Hubba Hideout.
Now everywhere is a Hubba, every spot's a Hubba.
It trips me out.
It's like, what?
That's not a Hubba.
There's only one Hubba, nigga.
There we are.
It didn't turn her off, she's still running.
Yeah.